More Than Slightly Disturbing

[Guest Game of Chance]

http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/kevin-cosgrove-911-call.html

[Guest Game of Chance]

I can't get over that...

[jadnifer]

I will never forget that! I could hear the terror in that man's voice and then the realization that he was going to die and then you see the plane hit. I cant even begin to imagine.....i cant say anymore or im going to start bawling

[Fierce Critter]

I've seen that.

It haunts me.

I'd like to find an unedited copy of the Melissa Doi 911 tape.

I have a morbid fascination with this kind of thing. I don't know if that's a bad thing. 911 was a day that very deeply disturbed me, yet I look at every book I come across on the subject, listen to things like that video, etc.

Jon was also deeply disturbed that day and is the opposite. He wants nothing to do with anything on the subject - books, audio, video, movies, etc.

[jadnifer]

I've seen that.

It haunts me.

I'd like to find an unedited copy of the Melissa Doi 911 tape.

I have a morbid fascination with this kind of thing. I don't know if that's a bad thing. 911 was a day that very deeply disturbed me, yet I look at every book I come across on the subject, listen to things like that video, etc.

Jon was also deeply disturbed that day and is the opposite. He wants nothing to do with anything on the subject - books, audio, video, movies, etc.

Everyone deals with it in a different way. I dont think that theres anything wrong with it. If they didnt want people to know about it, they wouldnt make these things. I have an interest in it too.

[ZhukovCodeslinger]

****edit**** Not the tone I would like to have in my last few minutes. For being the jerk that I am, I doubt I would behave that way.

[Fierce Critter]

Are you commenting on his somewhat spiky & caustic nature?

If so, yes, I thought the same thing. But given the circumstances, I'd probably be pretty out of patience myself. Especially if the 911 opeator asked me to spell my name more than once, etc.

This gave me much sympathy for the 911 operators of the day. I wonder how many people have thought about what they were going through - how helpless they were to know how to handle these calls. It's one reason I like listening to these calls, disturbing & haunting as they are. They're giving me some insight into what the 911 operators were going through.

Putting myself in the same position, I haven't a clue what in God's name I'd have thought of to tell these people. I probably would have gone silent with frustration and ignorance.

[Fierce Critter]

I just watched it again.

It hurts my chest.

God.

[Brenda Starrr]

I don't think I can watch it. I think that your reactions are enough to say that I shouldn't see it. The loss of my friend, Joe, still hurts me....

[Guest Game of Chance]

I've been thinking about this, what the hell was the fireman doing on the 911 call?

I know they did a great job after the fact, but what about during? Why in the hell didn't they have EVERY available man trying to get people out of there?

[Fierce Critter]

I'm only guessing, but I think he was patched through via another phone. Also, though "every" man should be on the job, the fire department needed - always needs - someone still, in one place, to be a hub of communication between those out in the field. He may have been that sort of contact.

This is something I also suspect, but that we may never, ever know. But I think it may just be that there's no way in hell they could have rescued the people in the floors ABOVE where the planes hit, and knew it. I think - guess - that decisions were made to not even try, I really do. At least not until they did what they could for those on the floors below.

I haven't taken the time to research it, and my memory is faulty, but I don't remember what floor #2 was hit at. Cosgrove was on 105, and talked of fire/smoke rising. So I believe he was in a floor above where a plane hit.

[Guest Game of Chance]

More and more, I'm thinking the same. Just seems a little odd...

[Msterbeau]

[Guest Game of Chance]

What he said.

[jadnifer]

its all just SO SO sad, thats all I can say about it

[jadnifer]

I'm only guessing, but I think he was patched through via another phone. Also, though "every" man should be on the job, the fire department needed - always needs - someone still, in one place, to be a hub of communication between those out in the field. He may have been that sort of contact.

This is something I also suspect, but that we may never, ever know. But I think it may just be that there's no way in hell they could have rescued the people in the floors ABOVE where the planes hit, and knew it. I think - guess - that decisions were made to not even try, I really do. At least not until they did what they could for those on the floors below.

I haven't taken the time to research it, and my memory is faulty, but I don't remember what floor #2 was hit at. Cosgrove was on 105, and talked of fire/smoke rising. So I believe he was in a floor above where a plane hit.

I was thinking about what you said, and I think that you may be right. If they tried to help the people on the top floors first, many more people may have lost their lives that day. Every life is precious though. Its a shame that anyone had to die. If Im not putting my words together right Im sorry this is just something that I have a hard time with sometimes. Good topic to talk about though

[ZhukovCodeslinger]

.... so for those of you who werent paying attention. The caller was on the 105th floor or somthing like that... above the fire.

ever tried walking to the top of a 7 story building (14 flights of stairs).... how about walking to 105th floor 210 flights of stairs....

now try it with all sorts of fire fighter equipment.... it takes hours and hours. even without a fire blocking the way, the fire fighters would not have reached that guy for hours.

its amazing the firefighters went in to begin with, knowing many of them would not even make it to the fire before becoming too tired to do anything about it in the first place (ignoring the whole collapse part)

[Msterbeau]

.... so for those of you who werent paying attention. The caller was on the 105th floor or somthing like that... above the fire.

ever tried walking to the top of a 7 story building (14 flights of stairs).... how about walking to 105th floor 210 flights of stairs....

now try it with all sorts of fire fighter equipment.... it takes hours and hours. even without a fire blocking the way, the fire fighters would not have reached that guy for hours.

its amazing the firefighters went in to begin with, knowing many of them would not even make it to the fire before becoming too tired to do anything about it in the first place (ignoring the whole collapse part)

Yeah... to keep calling and getting irate that it didn't "seem" like they were doing anything... To me it sounds pretty stupid... but then I wasn't there breathing in the smoke and facing death.

[ManicQueen]

That really brought back some horrible memories.

[Rayne]

Dude ... I watched it ... I shouldn't have.

[BrassFusion]

I find it really cheap the way someone synced that to a looped video of the tower and then cut to it to sync right before the tower fell. That sort of thing doesn't need dramaticizing.

[Guest Game of Chance]

It actually left such a strong imprint on my subconcious that I had a hard time watching anything at all on ebaum's world today...

[Fierce Critter]

I find it really cheap the way someone synced that to a looped video of the tower and then cut to it to sync right before the tower fell. That sort of thing doesn't need dramaticizing.

On the contrary.

I've admitted to my morbid fascination with all things 9/11 in another thread.

But of all the books I've read, all the pictures of falling people I've seen, everything else, this is the thing that, thusfar, has gotten through my jaded, immobile, flatline psyche when everything else just seemed too far away to get through to me.

I have watched it several times. And with each re-viewing, it impacts me more and more. It is working on me, and I think that's a good thing.

If it works similiarly on others, it deserves kudos.

It may actually get people like me to actually care about and want to take action about things, rather than sit by impassively.

[BrassFusion]

But isn't the audio enough? The sync is edited on! It's fake!

[Guest Game of Chance]

I dunno, I think the editor just made it that way so that the viewer more easily identified with Kevin Cosgrove.

It worked.