Dgn In Metro Times Detroit

[bav]

Please depressing Belgians.

From personal experience, I've found that nobody likes a Belgian.

[Paper Hearts]

Please depressing Belgians.

Yay!!

[bav]

VNV isn't actually goth, though. They'd do better on Rhino's (fictional) Industrial/EMB/Synthpop/Whatever compilation.

Congratulations...by speaking the name, you've summoned it into existence. Expect to see this one out in time for the holidays!

>grin<

I really hope that is the title for it, I can see the commercial now:

"Have you ever heard a song and want to hear others like it but when you ask your friends no one can agree on what kind of music it is? When you ask at your local gawf club does your question provoke fist-fights? Well, be in the dark no longer! Rhino Records has just the compilation to solve all your problems and answer all questions!

Rhino's Industrial/EBM/Synthpop/Whatever, Vol. 1!"

[slingerlandstyx]

Congratulations...by speaking the name, you've summoned it into existence. Expect to see this one out in time for the holidays!

>grin<

I really hope that is the title for it, I can see the commercial now:

"Have you ever heard a song and want to hear others like it but when you ask your friends no one can agree on what kind of music it is? When you ask at your local gawf club does your question provoke fist-fights? Well, be in the dark no longer! Rhino Records has just the compilation to solve all your problems and answer all questions!

Rhino's Industrial/EBM/Synthpop/Whatever, Vol. 1!"

OMG...

[saechalyn]

Let's take this one at a time:

If you're fifteen, wish you had been 15 and tragic in the early 80s, and you find this at a shop in the mall? SCORE! Besides, AFI is on it too!

If you're pushing your 30's or older, odds are you have a copy or two of this when Cleopatra [the K-Tel of gawf] was putting it out as the Gothic Rock/Industrial Revolution comps.

It's pretty played out. A lot of these songs have been re-issued on various compilations multiple times over the last 10 years. But again, if you're a teen-ager right now and like post-punk music....

I don't think it says anything about the importance or impact gothdustrial has had on pop culture.

Very much so. I think our society is very heavily into a nolstagia phase right now (and has been for a while) and that this is capitalizing on it. The idea that this is supposed to trace the foundations of the goth scene may be one thing, and it sort of does. The actualization of this, tho, is strikes me as more of a money-grab oriented towards one of two groups:

1) Old-school goths who've either had their houses burn down therefor losing their original albums/Cleopatra compilations or had to sell their music years ago to pay for their drug-habits.

2) The aforementioned teen-agers at the mall.

Given that we have AFI covering the Cure, Rubicon covering Fields of the Nephilim, and the Hot-Topic friendly packaging, I suspect the latter.

Possible, but I'm sort of doubting it. I'm really more of the thought that since Cleopatra started going the hip-hop route that Rhino is looking to pick up the slack with compilations and covers.

You rule. Seriously.

[phee]

As a music moderator... um I agree with Bav on everything... carry on

[Head Wreck]

be one with bavness.

ohm, ohm

be one with bavness........

[Troy Spiral (13)]

Thanks for moving it, man. And you're right - these Rhino genre boxes usually do a decent job of covering the foundations of a genre. But they rarely if ever delve into the contemporary side of things - Rhino is, after all, a reissue label.

Do you think that a box set like this signals an acknowledgement by the mainstream of goth's influence on indie rock and other artists of today?

Yeah the fact that RHINO is publishing this is amazing to me honestly. Really shows the progression of the "goth" scene and the fact that it is bigger now than it has ever been.

10 years ago no major media figure probably ever even HEARD of the term "goth". Nowadays i think all mass media sources are at least aware of the subject. We've come a long way baby.

[creatureofthenyte]

Yeah the fact that RHINO is publishing this is amazing to me honestly. Really shows the progression of the "goth" scene and the fact that it is bigger now than it has ever been.

10 years ago no major media figure probably ever even HEARD of the term "goth". Nowadays i think all mass media sources are at least aware of the subject. We've come a long way baby.

But isnt Rhino records like the Chevy Chevette of the record business ?

I think someone should poll all of us as to what songs should be on a compilation and then send the results to some other record company.