Man

[phee]

The republicans just keep getting caught.... *sigh*

Foley Resigns

You know... I am not usually a "party" person.... and I know that both parties are kinda corrupt... but the republicans just keep getting caught!

[Msterbeau]

[Troy Spiral (13)]

Just a question of timescale. I think corruption is fairly non-partisan.

[phee]

Just a question of timescale. I think corruption is fairly non-partisan.

So true

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I read some of the emails yesterday. They wont publish the kids emails.. only Foleys. The "picture" email... I'm not sure how the hell that was so sexual explicit.. like it's being reported. Apparently the kid had emailed Foley a pic of a bunch of his friends doing something while they were on vacation... Foley asked the kid to send a pic that the kid was in.

It all seemed rather innocent to me. I know they have not released all the emails but what they have released... I dont see what he big deal is.

[phee]

I read some of the emails yesterday. They wont publish the kids emails.. only Foleys. The "picture" email... I'm not sure how the hell that was so sexual explicit.. like it's being reported. Apparently the kid had emailed Foley a pic of a bunch of his friends doing something while they were on vacation... Foley asked the kid to send a pic that the kid was in.

It all seemed rather innocent to me. I know they have not released all the emails but what they have released... I dont see what he big deal is.

It begs the question then if it is no big deal... why did he resign?

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I don't know. I just know that the emails that have been published are not sexual in anyway. This is another of those stories that we are only getting a small fraction of... so there is no way to really form an opinion on them.

I can guesse though. If he resigns... there is no embarrasing investigation into his life. There is no great big over blown deal over something that shouldn't be. He can still have a life.

[pharoh]

Like Phee said, there had to be reasons, and there not showing all the emails, so I bet it something more career ending if he would of stayed in rather than just call it good and try for the position later.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

It would have to be damn bad. I can't remember his name off hand.. but there was another one that got caught a few years ago. He was running a child porn/prostitution ring out of his office. He was a Democrat though... so he got a slap on the wrist, never even got asked to resign and even got re-elected.

[BrassFusion]

It would have to be damn bad. I can't remember his name off hand.. but there was another one that got caught a few years ago. He was running a child porn/prostitution ring out of his office. He was a Democrat though... so he got a slap on the wrist, never even got asked to resign and even got re-elected.

And apparently it wasn't heavily publicized. But in the article (the one phee linked, i guess), didn't it quote the guy as having asked the kid if he made him "a little horny?"

That doesn't sound innocent at all.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I didn't say it was innocent. What I'm trying to say is tht all we see of it is out of context. WE have no idea what the conversation really was.

[phee]

I didn't say it was innocent. What I'm trying to say is tht all we see of it is out of context. WE have no idea what the conversation really was.

True

[Shade Everdark]

ABC has the entirety of the instant message conversation here.

[Paper Hearts]

ABC has the entirety of the instant message conversation here.

I read an excerpt from one the conversations, yesterday, in the Washington Post, which actually quoted him as asking one of the boys if the boy felt horny. I'll see if it's still available, for those who aren't sure what the context of the conversations were.

[Paper Hearts]

Oh, well it's actually right in the link Phee posted from Associated Press, as well. Personally, I don't need to know any further the context, when I've heard an adult ask a child if the child feels horny.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

So much for "Innocent until Proven Guilty"

[Paper Hearts]

I don't assume he was asking the child if he had antlers when he asked if the child was horny.

And Froyn you are cracking me up.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

But you do assume.

[BrassFusion]

So the kid wasn't 18, then. How old was he?

[Paper Hearts]

The page of most interest in the Foley scandal was 16 years old at the time the abuse occurred. This happened in 2005 and represents one of many cases where Foley made inappropriate advances with children working as pages. The GOP leadership has known about Foley's misconduct since Autumn 2005, although, GOP leaders are claiming that they were not aware of the details in this particular case, involving the 16 year old page from Louisiana, but were aware only that Foley had "over-friendly" relationships with some minors working for him. Foley, until last Friday, was a deputy whip for the House Republicans and co-chaired the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus. In resignation over the scandal, Foley has said, "I am deeply sorry and I apologize for letting down my family and the people of Florida I have had the privilege to represent."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...93001265_2.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6093001265.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6093001177.html

[BrassFusion]

"im deeply sry and I apolgize 4 letting dwn my rents and the ppl of fla i repersented"

I mean was it just me... or are you disgusted to be a citizen of a country in which someone with grammar and spelling THAT HORRIFIC can get so far in politics? Forget the pedophilia for a moment...

Wait! DON'T forget the pedophilia! That's way more embarassing!

[BrassFusion]

"I vt taht we pass this 1337 bill, cuz IT R0x0rZ!!!!!"

If Froyn was a politician, political correspondance in general would be more "hip" than it is today. It's not his fault that he can't spell or use grammatically correct sentences. He has writers for that and a publicist to explain any typos.

I fixed it for you... i think... didn't make sense to me the other way

[phee]

So much for "Innocent until Proven Guilty"

If he is innocent, then it made him look really bad when he resigned

[Paper Hearts]

If he is innocent, then it made him look really bad when he resigned

No, no. It's not an issue of whether Foley did wrong. The issue is why did the GOP leadership let Foley hold the position he had when they knew there was such a question of Foley's character.

[BrassFusion]

I just read that the age of consent in DC is 16.