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[gothicmom]

I apologise to those that may have read this 2 or 3 times. I'm posting it everywhere to get input from many people. Here it is.....

Aymee confided some things she's been experiencing.

First, she says she can hear music that sounds like Indian drums. She usually hears it at night when she is about to fall asleep, when she turns her head or gets up to see if it's us in the other room the music goes away. She said she's been hearing this since she was 5 or6, she is now 12.

The last few months she said she hears someone whispering her name. Happens day or night and has happened at school, not just home. Now I know why she's been hollering from her room "did you call me????" It was starting to bug me

She also said that she will just be sitting there and all of a sudden she'll get a cold breeze-yes I know what that usually means. She said it has happened even when she's had her space heater on, which is electric and blows the hot air around the room.

I don't think it scares her, just makes her feel awkward.

Let me know what you all think.

[The_Dark]

She's how old? Poltergeist?

[phee]

Have you investigated psychological explinations?

[Ginevra]

First, I would say don't write it off to totally being phsycological. Second, don't completely write it off to being paranormal, either.

When I was younger, I used to have precognitive dreams. When I first began to remember them, I'd relay them to my mother who in turn would tell me how crazy I was. I would say, based on my experience with my parents, to not necessarily praise her, but to at least let her know that you're pleased that she's telling you about these things and that you're glad she has enough trust in you to confide.

Being 12 is a difficult age. Not yet a young adult but not a child anymore, either. I would suggest a visit also to a pshycologist to ensure that her mental health is not suffering from this nor is it a contributing factor.

If you decide to investigate any paranormal routes, do so from an informed standpoint. If you bring in outsiders, such as those trained to figure out these types of things, get someone that comes recommended rather than choosing one out of the Yellow Pages. Who knows what you might get.

I would think that addressing the mental standpoint would be the starting place, though. Rule out one thing, then head toward another.

[Brenda Starrr]

It's cool that she came to you about it. I have this sort of thing happen to me, and have ever since I was around 13 years of age. My parents thought I was nuts and had me go to a psychologist. It wasn't until I had a dream of my grandfather having a heart attack while he was actually having the heart attack that they left me alone about it. Every single thing that was happening to my grandfather was happening in my dream.

It hurt that my parents didn't believe me until then. I've seen/heard all sorts of weird things, and they thought that I was full of shit. Until Grandpa died. When I told my dad what I saw in my dream, it was just after the police came to tell him that Grandpa had passed. After the officer left our house, he came upstairs to tell my mom. I heard her start to cry, and then I just knew. He then came into my room and said "I have something to tell you." I looked at him and said "Grandpa's dead. I saw it happen." I told him what I saw, and he didn't believe me and told me not to speak of my dream to Mom.

It wasn't until my grandmother told my parents how it happened that they believed me. I "felt" my other grandfather pass. He had died at 1:30a.m. At that same time, I felt a chill rush through my body. Literally as if a cold spirit walked through me. The day after the Oklahoma City Bombing, when my grandmother passed, my phone rang 3 times. Once at 12:00 noon, once at 12:10, and at 12:15. The 12:15 call was the one that got me. I picked up the phone, and there was no sound. None. I hung up, and there was a hand touching my shoulder. No one was there but my sleeping son and myself.

Why I see this shit and not the lottery numbers really bugs me....

[JaneDead]

same things happened to me when i was little. i used to always hear my name too. and do the same thing to my parents - did you call me??

that actually stopped happening to me, not sure when. but another time as an adult it kept happening. i was hearing my dad say my name. and i would hear it again. as if he was right there saying it at me. so i called him- he answered and says "oh hey i was just talking about you with patricia (my aunt)" i said "yeah i had a feeling"

my weird "death dreams" started when i was 12 i guess. i woke up hysterical one middle-of-the-night. i found out later that day my great grandma had died at that time. that was just the start of it all...

i have felt cold go through me. not even as a cold chill. more like cold pass right through me and leave. doesn't freak me out or anything. and i know it is not happening to the people i am around. so it is not like a "breeze" or something.

i have told people of my experiences in the past. only one has said maybe it was "mental". some have LOOKED at me like i am mental, but only one made an actual claim that maybe i was in fact having mental issues.

i don't think i have ever heard indian drums though... hmm can't recall now. all i know is i have always had a ringing in my ears. sometimes it gets to be super super loud and it takes over everything, almost like i am going to pass out. not saying that is related to any of what you said or what i said here. just got me to thinking about it.

sorry i have no advice on this - just can relate. and to date i have never been diagnosed as crazy and don't feel anywhere near crazy. except from my kids... but that is a different story that i am SURE you can relate to as well.

[Brenda Starrr]

i have never been diagnosed as crazy

Uh huh. :woot:

[Lilith]

my approach to this would be simple ( this is the way i think i would go about this and nothing more)

as a mom i would want to exclude any medical reasons so i would persue them just as a percaution

once they found nothing medically wrong i would search out those who are recomended and qualified to speak about supernatural behavior ( i dont know any or i would be glad to recomend)

then i would embrace my childs special gift and get her any resource ( books articles etc...) that would help her understand what is happening and how to make it work for her, as a mom i would probally read the same material just so i had some insight and information to prepare myself on how to elp her grow and become confertable

other hten that i woudl let her know i feel special because she shared her gift with me, and i would just probally love her alot.

[gothicmom]

More info....

Her biological grand father was of native american descent, not that that means anything these days.

Her dad has had some wild things happen to him. He'd probly get upset if he knew I was putting this here.

Anyway. Around Fall he can hear peoples thoughts. I was using a payphone in the car and he was out walking around the parking lot, he was able to tell me the conversation. He said he could do this even as a child.

He has mentally been able to 'do things' to people.

Example: We were in line at Wal-Mart. This child in front of us was pitching a BAD fit because he couldn't get what he wanted. He looked at the child and said to himself....shut up, shut up, quit crying, shut up. He said the kid looked at him and shut up.

Since that was kind of a cool thing he kept trying it. But he quit becuase that ability was too exhausting. IT gave him a headach and it was too mentally chanllenging.

I said all that to say one day we were leaving the library and she ran up ahead, far up ahead. So we were deciding if we wanted to go to the park or not (she was way ahead of us and we were talking softly) she stopped and said "are we going to the park????"

She hasn't done things like that since she was really little. My son has done that once or twice.

[gothicmom]

How I'm dealing with this.

I keep asking her questions.

I also told her to listen when she hears things.

As I do with anything that my kids do or have, like being sick. I always watch to see what happens.

I am scared to tell anyone (like Drs.) about this because I don't like the phrase "it's all in her head' I think thats a very unfair thing to say to someone.

She told me yesterday that she's been struggling spiritually. Which kind of surprised me. She's starting to free think in this area and i"m glad for it. Unfortunatly, Bishop and I going through the same thing right now so it's hard to help her out .

[Troy Spiral (13)]

If she was an adult, i'd try to help her make up her own mind. That is, play both sides of the question as in, it could be "just in her head" OR "it could really be happening" ... which... given what you know ("you" meaning her, herself, not whatever some other person might suggest) do you think is the most likely? And then, when/if she comes to that conclusion, i'd try to make it clear that even THAT conclusion could be up for debate and could have endless alternative possiblities, and to try not to assume anything if possible.

I remember having similar situations as a young child and i had hard time not being "afraid" despite having at least minimial self-awareness of our ablity to decide our own emotional responses at a young age.

What i would tell myself, as a child, im not sure. >ponders

[gothicmom]

Thats one thing that surpiseds me is that she's NOT scared. I'da probaly crapped my drawers!!!! I still might if it happened to me tonight!

[Troy Spiral (13)]

Is she generally un emotional? Does she exibit this "fearless" nature often? Might be a sign of some other concerns unrelated to this specific incident.

The part where shes so young complicates it by a huge factor, it may be just as simple as a young child not knowing that putting your hand in the fire will hurt, so they dont have any fear of it or it could be something more serious.

I've got a billion theories on this one but ill just shush hehe.

[gothicmom]

Is she generally un emotional?

No. She's been over emotional since she was very small. Every little thing makes her cry to the point she can't stop (we'd usually say that it must be her time of the month, even at 3 years old!)

She watched Spiderman 2 and freaked out when Doc Oc went on a killing spree. So....I don't know.

[JaneDead]

your daughter sounds like me. i was very emotional as a child. things really touched me, sometimes more than they probably should have. they still do to this day but at least as an adult i DO control it now knowing that i just overly sensitive.

and i would say: don't go to people who have no experience with this. they WILL say it is all in her head and that will make her doubt herself. she will possibly have "issues" then too that don't need to be there - if those doubting people don't believe her/in her.

if she is mentaly stable in other ways i doubt this is a "mental" issue.

[gothicmom]

Thats pretty much what I was thinking.

[fallennon]

I was very emotional as a child as well. When I was about 5 or 6 I started making my mom sleep in my bedroom with me at night because I would hear music and noises and someone talk to me like they were right there. I hae always seemed to know things before they happen.

When I went through my drug phase I started to see things through objects. Feet under tables, people arguing in the apartment next door. All things that could be backed up that there was truly no way I could have known.

Within the last couple of years I have been having strange dreams where I jump out of myself and can see what is going on around me. I once told my roommate of a conversation he was having on the computer, in his bedroom while I was alseep across the house. I have also watched tv and movies in my sleep that I have never seen before and yet can tell every little detail.

When I got pregnant this got worse and I started to see shadows in my house while I was walking around "out of my body." Two days after my son came home from the hospital I was sleeping on the couch next to my baby's dad who was holding my son. I was walking through the family room (sleeping in the living room) and I saw a pregnant woman standing there and started to talk to her. After a few moments she grabbed me by the shoulders and screamed at me, "HE'S FALLING!" She kept screaming it until her face turned skeletal and she was shrieking so loud I thought my ears would bleed. As I woke up I caught my son in my arms without even thinking about it. His father had rolled over and almost dropped him on the floor! How would I have known this was happening? I had even taken a valium that night.

I was sent to several psych.s when I was younger who tried to figure out what was wrong with me. They told me it was anxiety but the older I get, the worse it gets. My son, also of native american decent, is only 6 months old and I have already noticed some weirdness in him. He stares off at the air...something he is really focused on...and talks. Babbles and laughs like someone is playing with him. His arms get covered in goosebumps while he's doing it too. Within the last week he (who has always been a sound night sleeper since he was born) has been crying out in his sleep right around 11 pm. He doesn't wake up, just cries and whimpers. The room seems to get cold and then he smiles and falls back asleep.

I am of Jewish decent and customly named him after a dead relative. I wonder if that relative is who comforts him and plays with him when it seems that there is no one around.

People who are sensative to this sort of thing tell me that they feel energy in my livingroom which is where most of this strange stuff happens. A lot of my friends avoid that room at night. Strangely, I have a problem with my laundry room. My baby's daddy tried to slit his wrists in it one night and said he didn't know why he did, he was just scared and couldn't leave the room. The only reason he survived is that I was having another sleeping fit and saw it happening. Six dark shadows with red eyes lead me to the room where I watched him do it and were laughing at me. I woke up and found him bleeding on the floor.

I guess what I'm trying to say here is though many may think that I am crazy, I don't discount this because of what I, myself, have experienced.