Homicidalheathen Posted October 14, 2006 Posted October 14, 2006 Seems I come across more and more people who think lying is the norm, ok......use it to gain friends.....employment.....everything. A few days ago I was at a small party......someone told a rather amusing story......at the end he admitted it was all a lie. Why do this? Yah, you had us all going....but why tell one that is a lie? Is your life so boring you need to do this to impress people? I am not talking about the bad lies either.....like, you robbed a bank and are living off the cash....you secretly deal drugs for a living......cheat on your significant other.....stabbed your best friend in the back...... although I see more of that these days too. I am talking little lies that get you no where......like people just do it for fun as I mentioned. I can never take anything this person says seriously again.....and when he starts to tell amusing stories in the future, no matter how entertaining......I will walk away thinking I am wasting my time. I just think it is weird. I don't even know why anyone bothers telling these sort of 'white' lies that get no one nowhere....except to gain attention....but when you figure out or find out its a lie then it is the wrong kind of attention. So I asked him why he does it and he said 'just for fun'. Well it is not fun wasting your time listening to something you think is true when your honestly trying to get to know a potential friend......it does not help your cause. Honestly I think it would be better to just memorize jokes online or something for parties. What I really dont like is that a person like this is probably sitting back snickering inside thinking if you believe the lie your a stupid fool and that its funny. Well yah, I like to believe people....to give them the benefit of the doubt even when it seems unbelievable.....because one's past shapes who they are today. And lying about your work history and all........we hired and fired a guy this week because he lied big time. What is the point? He only got one week of work. If he had been honest and tried for a job he was better suited for he would not have waisted both of our time....and now we WILL put the word out he is a liar.....I doubt he will get hired in the field he applied for anytime soon in this area anyway....as we know most anyone hiring for this particular field right now. I understand the stretching of the truth a bit to get a job but this was all out total lying.....and ontop of all that we paid 50 bucks and ran a back ground check.....seems the guy has quite a criminal history. It is worth It I tell you, check out your potential partners.....be in buisness or life. There are places online where you can get this done cheap......they do background checks for you.....or you can look it up yourself but it takes longer. My friend was dating a guy and checked him out in the sexual offender reg......guess what? On her hunch, she found him in there. For something pretty bad. So check people out to protect yourself...and if you think someone is lying.....they probably are and think it is ok.
Steven Posted October 14, 2006 Posted October 14, 2006 weirdness. the power of the lie to create havoc is incredible.
pomba gira Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 The scary thing to me is not the person who lies and is inwardly laughing at the people they fool... but person who lies so much they have really lost all sense of what is true and what is the way they wish things were. I used to live with a guy like that... he just lied about EVERYTHING... whether there was any real reason to lie or not. One reason I'm almost obssessive about being honest myself is that after a few months of living w/this guy I found myself starting to lie about stupid little things, too. His sister was the same way... I talked about this w/her BF who was also a close friend of the first dude... & he said "Yeah, that's why I don't like being around them for more than a couple months, 'cos I start lying just like they do." Ever since then I can't stand having dishonest people around me for any length of time... and like I said, I am almost obssessive about telling the truth (although I don't believe in that whole "brutal honesty" trip- you can be honest & tactful at the same time). I would never want to get to a point where I couldn't even tell when I was lying... which I came to realize was exactly the space this former BF was in. He truly couldn't tell the difference.
Troy Spiral (13) Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 For some people lying is almost a second language. I know a few guys that lie so much i don't even bother to wonder about it anymore. Granted they are not huge lies about big things , just annoying lies that i don't even want to bother calling them on anymore. The really crap deals is when people mix up half the truth with half what (is probably) a lie... then it really gets to be a mess and you do not know what to believe. Even better when they go around lying about you, and mixing up a half truth with the lie so it sounds credible. I'm not sure theres anything special about these days though. There have always been honest people and there have always been dishonest people. Often the lies are based on fear. Fear of the truth, fear of being looked down upon , fear of being inadequate or whatever. I cant say i "hate" anyone that is like this, hell there are worse things in the world. Besides that anyone that says they've never lied... you know right off the bat that person's lie count is at least two. I just think it has to do with who we've brushed up against the most , and the most recently. There is, i think in reality far more good in the world than bad. Its just we tend to focus on the negative and it stays with us longer.
Homicidalheathen Posted October 15, 2006 Author Posted October 15, 2006 I don't like being at a party, when someone does this.....and has us all going.....like he/she is laughing inside that we are all so stupid we believe it.....assholes. You want friends? This is not the way to do it. You want people to believe you when its important? Good luck! I talked to a girl on myspace who admitted she does this in her blog.......well guess what? I am not reading your blog anymore......so go waste time writing in it......no one cares now. But yah, the ones who are so self deluded they believe their own lies are down right scary......I fear them.
pomba gira Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 I'm not sure theres anything special about these days though. There have always been honest people and there have always been dishonest people. Often the lies are based on fear. Fear of the truth, fear of being looked down upon , fear of being inadequate or whatever. I cant say i "hate" anyone that is like this, hell there are worse things in the world. Besides that anyone that says they've never lied... you know right off the bat that person's lie count is at least two. I just think it has to do with who we've brushed up against the most , and the most recently. There is, i think in reality far more good in the world than bad. Its just we tend to focus on the negative and it stays with us longer. I agree. I think the only difference is "these days" people are more open about their misbehavior of all kinds... including lying. There is this confessional mentality now (possibly due in part to the influence of "reality TV" and talk shows?) where people are more willing, and even eager, to publicly discuss their wrongdoings. Fear is indeed a big part of it. I saw some compulsive liar dude on a talk show... and he was the most pathetic loser creature imaginable. It was obvious that he desperately hated being who he was, but had no idea how to change himself... so lying was the only way he could hope to convince himself & others of his personal worth. I couldn't really say I "hate" someone like this... my feeling toward them would be more like deep pity mixed with contempt. Really, they can't even do that much harm through their lies since no one is going to be taken in by them more than once.
Homicidalheathen Posted October 15, 2006 Author Posted October 15, 2006 I wonder if there isn't a link missing in the brain, kinda like with Sociopaths....some people maybe arn't that bad, but something is wrong....they don't feel it is wrong to lie or can't help themselves.
Steven Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 people have no honor anymore, nor any sense of decency.
Hellion Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 I just cannot stand dishonest people,and it has become so bad,its practically an epidemic. I just do not know why some people get off on lying.
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