Vista Unvirusable

[Dubh Aingeal]

During a telephone conference with reporters yesterday, outgoing Microsoft co-president Jim Allchin, while touting the new security features of Windows Vista, which was released to manufacturing yesterday, told a reporter that the system's new lockdown features are so capable and thorough that he was comfortable with his own seven-year-old son using Vista without antivirus software installed.

Yea..........

and 640K will be plenty of memory..........

And the world will only need 4 computers...................

And no one would ever need a computer at home..............

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

If you set it up correctly he is right. You'll still get a virus, but the virus will be locked in the user space away from the os. Just back up everything in hte my documents and delelte the user.. virus gone. recrate the user and put the files back.

[Onyx]

So the antivirus industry will be out of business?

Hmmm....

Hard to believe there's an operating system viruses can't get into somehow.

[Head Wreck]

there'll be one that will come out. otherwise how will microsoft sell the next edition of an OS when support stops?

[Troy Spiral (13)]

Well with all the recovery tech nowadays, and smart people storing their "important" files online instead of on their machines... the damage virri can cause is i think in reality pretty minimal. In >theory

Funny though... as part of the Vista/Live push they are rolling out their new anti-virus, anti-spyware,anti-hacker system. Kind of goes against the "we dont need no stinking virus software" idea.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

It's not virus proof... you can still get infected.. but cleanup is way easyer and damage to the OS is minimal... or so they claim... I am not holding my breath.,

[Troy Spiral (13)]

It's not virus proof... you can still get infected.. but cleanup is way easyer and damage to the OS is minimal... or so they claim... I am not holding my breath.,

Now that i'm thinking about it... the've been claiming that same thing since the eariest versons of MS-DOS that im old enough to remember heh

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Each version has gotten better... but then... so have the viruses.

[Msterbeau]

I had to wait the whole day so I would not laugh so hard when I read this. I'll believe it when I see it.

[pomba gira]

During a telephone conference with reporters yesterday, outgoing Microsoft co-president Jim Allchin, while touting the new security features of Windows Vista, which was released to manufacturing yesterday, told a reporter that the system's new lockdown features are so capable and thorough that he was comfortable with his own seven-year-old son using Vista without antivirus software installed.

Yea..........

and 640K will be plenty of memory..........

And the world will only need 4 computers...................

And no one would ever need a computer at home..............

of course he didn't mention, that's on the throwaway 'puter that no one uses but the kid, which isn't connected to the rest of the household net. Not to mention he can afford to just get the kid a new rig if the one gets hit.

[xopher]

I predict a Vista-staggering virus hitting less than six months from release.

[Msterbeau]

For those in-the-know it's called Linux.

Or Mac OSX.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

uh-huh...

just ignore the viruses that are starting to appear more and more often for those two operating systems as more and more people use them and they turn into better targets for the people writing viruses and malware...

[Dubh Aingeal]

Steps to infect a users files in linux/unix/Mac OsX:

read the email

save the attachment

give executable permissions (not given by default only read and write are defaults)

run (oops your infected)

Steps to infect linux/unix/Mac OsX to infect the system files:

read the email

save the attachment

become root (administrator for you windows people, not used by default)

give executable permissions (not given by default only read and write are defaults)

run (oops your infected)

Steps to infect a Windows box:

Open a email (oops your infected)

Run the attachment in a email (oops your infected)

Granted there are more ways to infect a Windows system but I think you can see the easy to do so compared to doing so on a linux, Unix or Mac OsX system. The more steps that are required to infect a system the less likely that the virus will be able to do so.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

All current OSs:

open Webpage

(Your infected)

I's called a Trojan virus... and more and more of them are wrtten every month to infect Mac OS 10.x and Linux

[Vampyro]

I'm no where near a programmer other than knowing basic html (almost started dhtml but lost time and interest) But I've noticed, the more complicated the programming gets, the more loopholes were made for viruses... I do know of linux's great reputation, however i've never experienced using a computer with linux. If we go away from reality for a moment and think, perhaps simplifying things? I found with the more html I'd use on my page, the more likely I was to make an error and the harder it was to find the error to fix it. I could be dead wrong in this however, but i still remember the good old days, before the updated browsers came out that gave spyware the opportunity to rear its ugly head into the internet. It's just a pattern of trend I've noticed... The more advanced things get, the more shit tends to pop up. I'm wondering what's going to be the next infested nuciance after spyware that will storm the internet.

[Rayne]

Or Mac OSX.

:peanutbutterjellytime

[pharoh]

If mac and linux ever catch up to microsoft in popularity it will be just as bad.

The thing is that microsoft made a claim similar to this before. They said that Windows NT could not be hacked......well it wasn't even an hour I think lol.

[Sayo]

After I tried Vista Beta and my HD went down, I switched to Gentoo Linux and I never looked back; Vista not only stole all of their ideas from pre-existing OSs (as if this was a new trend for MS or something) but they STILL can't find a way to pull it off without massive memory leaks.

Sorry but they need to being back the design team from Win2k (or the NT substructure in general).

[Dubh Aingeal]

Sorry but they need to being back the design team from Win2k (or the NT substructure in general).

Actually if it wasn't for the need of backwards compatibility to the DOS days they could probably restructure and put out a decent product (maybe). But as long as business continues to force the backwards compatibility they will always be plagued with virus, worms, memory leaks, etc...

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Sayo... XP is based on the NT substructure.

[Dubh Aingeal]

Dubh, I'll agree to disagree with your statement on how "Easy" it is to infect a *nix (including Mac) system. Luckily for me all my arguements are stated here.

Ummm... I never said the *nix enviroment was easy to infect. Just the opposite.

[Dubh Aingeal]

Sorry, by the "steps" you had given there I thought you were implying that it was "almost" as easy to infect a *nix as it was a M$ system.

Nah just generalizing the steps you would have to go thru to force a virus to infect your system.