Sept. 11th ... Hmmm ...

[Rayne]

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...eoid=1224805187

I'm not saying I believe it ... I'm not saying I don't.

I honestly just don't know.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

You know... people who don't understand how video cameras work.. you know... light moving at 186,000miles per second... and a the camera only doing about 60 or 80 frames per second should not being trying to analyze film.

[BrassFusion]

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...eoid=1224805187

I'm not saying I believe it ... I'm not saying I don't.

I honestly just don't know.

Nice try, babe. I tried saying the same thing a few months ago when a thread came up about it and I was positively crucified for my disbelief.

You know... people who don't understand how video cameras work.. you know... light moving at 186,000miles per second... and a the camera only doing about 60 or 80 frames per second should not being trying to analyze film.

People who challenge the physical knowledge of others should find a more specific way to criticize them. As in, what does the speed of light and frame rate have to do with ANYTHING here? This is a serious question.

[Msterbeau]

You know... people who don't understand how video cameras work.. you know... light moving at 186,000miles per second... and a the camera only doing about 60 or 80 frames per second should not being trying to analyze film.

Especially grainy, crappy looking film.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

BF... simple physics. A Video camera distorts things because you only see a fraction of what really was there. The naked eye catches far more.

Let me debunk it in another way.

The commentator says... "every conceviable angle"... ok...

lets see that same shot from all of them. when I see that shot from a good prtion of 16.8 million angles "which is how many possible angles there are" I'll beleive his theroy.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

hrmm... pain killers kicking in... my spelling goes first.. then odd use of "

[Msterbeau]

The spark before the plane hit is bullshit. He's just seeing things that you can't discern with the graininess of the video. I could say someone tossed an explosive at the window from the inside just as the airliner was about to hit.... I didn't have time to see the whole thing through.. I was tired last night. Maybe at lunch time...

[BrassFusion]

BF... simple physics. A Video camera distorts things because you only see a fraction of what really was there. The naked eye catches far more.

Let me debunk it in another way.

The commentator says... "every conceviable angle"... ok...

lets see that same shot from all of them. when I see that shot from a good prtion of 16.8 million angles "which is how many possible angles there are" I'll beleive his theroy.

It's been a while since I've seen the video (I don't really have time today), but I don't recall his whole theory resting on one piece of video footage.

Also, 60 frames per second looks pretty slick. Even our eyes distort things that move much faster, like when a hubcap looks like it's spinning in reverse when it moves at a certain speed. I'm trying to think of any projectile, seen from about 20 yards, that would move too fast to be picked up by a video camera. And the farther away you get, the faster the object would have to move.

Ever heard, "I won't believe that till I see it?" Well, now you ARE seeing something that should at least make you question a belief you have that you've never SEEN evidence for, but you don't want to question it.

[Rayne]

There's more to it than people claiming to have seen light.

Some claim they didn't even see a passenger jet.

[paradox]

yes, and the moon landing was staged in area 51. and we've never sent a manned flight into space.

some people will believe anything.

[Rayne]

yes, and the moon landing was staged in area 51. and we've never sent a manned flight into space.

some people will believe anything.

I never said I did.

... I don't know what happened, I wasn't there.

[paradox]

i didnt single you out. i merely designated "some people" as in the people who made that video, or those who find it credible, despite having experienced the event personally (in that they witnessed the same coverage everyone else did, not necessarily in person).

sorry for any misunderstanding.

[kellygrrrrrl]

is there a YouTube version of the video?

I cannot see anything with the word "mySpace" in the link as my werk PC blocks it.....

or what is the name of the video and I'll look it up......??

=)

thanks

[torn asunder]

yes, and the moon landing was staged in area 51.

:fear of course it was!!

[kellygrrrrrl]

yes, 9/11 was staged

the moon landing was a hollywood stunt

the holocaust never happened

John F Kennedy is still alive and hiding somewhere in Alaska with Elvis and Michael Jackson

Oh and Hurricane Katrina was The Presidents fault.....he huffed and puffed, and blew the sea walls down

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

actually.. I have the whole movie at home.

I laughed and laughed and laughed...

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

OK...

That whole fired a rocket right before it hit thing...

shadows

The front of the plane is on the shadow of the building.. as is the contact point. You can see the tip pf the plane right up till the front end enters the shadow of the building. Then it fires the rocket and there is a small explosion...

No.. the rocket is the very outside edge of the plane with some light on it... that little puff of light that is sopposed to be the rocket hitting... is the actuall tip of the plane making contanct...

Just look at how far it is from the tip of the plane to the front of the wing... then when the puff of light happens.. look at the front of the wing.. use that great big brain and figure out where the tip of the plane would be... right about where that puff of light is...

[BrassFusion]

yes, 9/11 was staged

the moon landing was a hollywood stunt

the holocaust never happened

John F Kennedy is still alive and hiding somewhere in Alaska with Elvis and Michael Jackson

Oh and Hurricane Katrina was The Presidents fault.....he huffed and puffed, and blew the sea walls down

Kelly, what you're saying is very dangerous. It boils down to, "Because widely accepted propaganda is always true, we should never question it for fear of looking stupid."

ALWAYS question propaganda, even the stuff you think is true.

[phee]

Kelly, what you're saying is very dangerous. It boils down to, "Because widely accepted propaganda is always true, we should never question it for fear of looking stupid."

ALWAYS question propaganda, even the stuff you think is true.

Good advice

[paradox]

nothing wrong with questioning, but at the same time, dont get carried away with it either. either way can lead to extremes of blind faith quickly.