I Am Unpure.

[Homicidalheathen]

Well I came clean about how sick I got a couple times this year and now everyone is mad at me. Why say anything? I can't do any better. I try to eat well. I eat all those damn veggies and cut out the seeds. If I die, so what. If I am in allot of pain you will know cause I will ask you to drive me in.

I don't understand why they have to know everything all the time. It won't make any difference.

They see me doing honestly the best I can so why get on my case? I practically live like a nun! I have only one vice left and even that one can kill me (without condoms anyway) so WTF? I wish they would just stop asking. If I say it hurts and to get out of my way just do it and leave me alone. Ya know?

[Gauge]

umm. . .because thats what you pay them for

[Steven]

well..... as a laveyan satanist, i have a hard time understanding why you would stop eating meat for spiritual reasons. i personaly practically live of meat, because i don't like most vegetables(well i can eat it, but not if theres anything else:P) this unpureness thing is to me hypocrisy. i would understand you, if it was a protest against cruelty to animals.

(aka industrial farming.) but for pleasing some kind of unknown almighty force(correct me if i'm wrong:D) seems far out to me.

anyhow. good luck with it:) and be careful:D

I didint take it that she was trying to please any particular force as much as she was tryign to simplify and thus purify her own fleshly vessle.....which I agree with her is a spiritual undertaking. Fasting in essence is the act of denying yourself in order to break an easy habit of dependence so that other parts of your being rise up and become more sensitive.

and in a physiological sense - fasting does indeed purify your body and allows itself (especially if enough liquids are being used) to detoxify and flush out. Cant see that as hypocritical either.

and as a sidenote curiosity thing....can you explain to me what a "Laveyan" Satanist is as opposed to, a regular Joe Schmoe Saturday night Satanist? (legit question)

[Steven]

well I had to go back to eating meat. Have been helping a friend with his lawn care buisness....and I almost passed out 5 times in one day so I ate meat and it stopped!

I talked to my doctor who said after years of dealing with me....my body because of the divers and colitis does not absorb iron well.....vitamins wont do me much good.....and so I am low on iron and I have to eat Beef.

I drank too.....because I was soo constipated this week I thought I would die! And that worked too....

Now I got me needles done last week and not drinking for a few weeks did help.....no bleeding at all this time! And no bruising.

So, I will continue to drink and eat meat but SPARINGLY. Also, this means I can't perform the ritual with a certain someone and that makes me kinda mad.

I hate all these frickin rules.

He thinks he is so spiritual not eating meat he can do this without me/us? Whatever.

I met the most spiritual people of my life way back in AZ, they were like no one I ever met before or since.......and they all ate meat. They did not drink however. AT all. None of them.

I guess I think its whatever works for you at the time.....and everything is subject to change.

Eskimos eat meat and have shamans who eat meat I am sure.....and who are probably better at this sort of thing so whatever.

Just curious - do green plant veggies not work with your system? They all have high Iron content. Sometimes when my wife is roughin it physically (shes nto a big meat eater either - its tough on her system) she'll turn to juicing and use alot of green leafy veggies mixed with a little apple and carrot for flavor. Seems to help her. have you ever thougt about juicing in general? No seeds, no roughage to contend with....

[sass_in_the_pants]

well I had to go back to eating meat. Have been helping a friend with his lawn care buisness....and I almost passed out 5 times in one day so I ate meat and it stopped!

I talked to my doctor who said after years of dealing with me....my body because of the divers and colitis does not absorb iron well.....vitamins wont do me much good.....and so I am low on iron and I have to eat Beef.

I drank too.....because I was soo constipated this week I thought I would die! And that worked too....

Now I got me needles done last week and not drinking for a few weeks did help.....no bleeding at all this time! And no bruising.

So, I will continue to drink and eat meat but SPARINGLY. Also, this means I can't perform the ritual with a certain someone and that makes me kinda mad.

I hate all these frickin rules.

He thinks he is so spiritual not eating meat he can do this without me/us? Whatever.

I met the most spiritual people of my life way back in AZ, they were like no one I ever met before or since.......and they all ate meat. They did not drink however. AT all. None of them.

I guess I think its whatever works for you at the time.....and everything is subject to change.

Eskimos eat meat and have shamans who eat meat I am sure.....and who are probably better at this sort of thing so whatever.

In my life, I have met three people whose spirituality was memorable. One was at a diner in Hoboken, New Jersey. He was eating a bacon cheeseburger and a chocolate milkshake. The second was at a festival here in Michigan. He was of slight build, had sandy blond hair, and had lost one shoe earlier that day running around with his friends in the mud. Nothing looks sadder than a man carrying around one tennis shoe. I happened to have an extra pair in the car. He had small feet. It worked out. We chatted. I don't know what he ate.

And the third was a very frail old man with a soft voice. He wasn't too corcerned with food, but he had guests over for nearly every lunch and dinner. He drank herbal teas, but served his guests good wine.

No one has a monopoly on spirituality. If this prick thinks he knows everything, then he's got alot to learn himself. Just my nickel (I've started adjusting for inflation).

[Homicidalheathen]

Well technically I will not be initiated into a certain group because I now eat meat. So fuck them. I am part Native American and according to some scientists.....I evolved to eat it and it would be unhealthy for me NOT to.

I don't know that I am ready to give up swearing either.

[BrassFusion]

Well technically I will not be initiated into a certain group because I now eat meat. So fuck them. I am part Native American and according to some scientists.....I evolved to eat it and it would be unhealthy for me NOT to.

I don't know that I am ready to give up swearing either.

lol, i think all humans are evolved to eat meat... $0.02

[uggae]

well about taking my health for granted, you're properly right. I do what i want. if its unhealthy, then so be it! I sit in my room most of the day, drinking 2 L cola and playing games. and i'm quite fine with that:)

if there is something i hate about myself, it is that i sleep to little... i just can't go to bed at 11:00.. i can't... so i only get 7-6 hours of sleep. and then i can't concentrate in school, then i'm bored as fuck.. sitting 6 and a half hours doing nothing is boring.. but it's my own fault....

anyway. back to topic! Steven: oh thats whats shes been doing! then i understand it alittle more thank you:) well then my life must be damn complex, cuz i eat almost everything:D i drink when i can afford it(which is quite rare, but anyway:P) and sit in fag smoke alot. and i'm not opposed to eco-dope(hash, weed, mushrooms etc) in fact, i'd like to try it:D but i'm not getting in to coke, amp, LSD and that stuff. thats for yppies who like to dance stupid.

well.. i don't really know what a regular Joe Schmoe Saturday night Satanist is:P but a laveyan satanist is a person who belives or can relate to the philosophy of the satanic bible written by anton lavey and not some nonsense about the (christian) biblical satan:) well... satanism isn't really a good name for the philosophy it self. i personally use the term humanistic nihilism, but as satanism is it's officel name, i thought the most of you would know about it:D i suggest that you read the satanic bible, if not for religious reasons then just for fun:D i have it as an PDF file if you're interested:D

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I have to agree. We are omnivores. Large quanitys of red meat helped in the evolution of our large brains. Spinach is a great source of Iron btw.

As for fasting, I understand the spiritual need that some people have to do it though i don't do it on porpuse I do sometimes goes for days without eating.

I am a strong beleiver in listening to your own body. You always needs water, at least a gallon a day for your kidneys and liver to function properly to filter your blood and flush the impuritys and dead cells from your body. Also to lubricate the places that needs it. To build up the layers of mucas membrane your body needs at it's various orrifices and line internal organs. Your body gives you signs for what it needs.. cravings, odd smells... for example.. if you smell copper or taste it in your mouth (at which point other people will think you smell like copper if they get close enough) you need iron.

If you were feeling ill after working out int he hot sun and eating meat made you feel better.. i would bet you needed that glass of water you drank to wash done the steak more than you needed the steak. The steak helped your muscles rebuild from using them (protien) and helped to build new blood cells (iron and protien) but the light headed weak feeling was your body needing water.

This sounds like bragging.. but I'm a 40 year old man that even doctors say has the health of a athletic 20 year old. Get intune with yourself... really learn your illnesess and adjust your diet to what your body needs. Your soul/spirit does not needs physical food to be healthy... thats a whole different book of stuff.

[Steven]

well about taking my health for granted, you're properly right. I do what i want. if its unhealthy, then so be it! I sit in my room most of the day, drinking 2 L cola and playing games. and i'm quite fine with that:)

if there is something i hate about myself, it is that i sleep to little... i just can't go to bed at 11:00.. i can't... so i only get 7-6 hours of sleep. and then i can't concentrate in school, then i'm bored as fuck.. sitting 6 and a half hours doing nothing is boring.. but it's my own fault....

anyway. back to topic! Steven: oh thats whats shes been doing! then i understand it alittle more thank you:) well then my life must be damn complex, cuz i eat almost everything:D i drink when i can afford it(which is quite rare, but anyway:P) and sit in fag smoke alot. and i'm not opposed to eco-dope(hash, weed, mushrooms etc) in fact, i'd like to try it:D but i'm not getting in to coke, amp, LSD and that stuff. thats for yppies who like to dance stupid.

well.. i don't really know what a regular Joe Schmoe Saturday night Satanist is:P but a laveyan satanist is a person who belives or can relate to the philosophy of the satanic bible written by anton lavey and not some nonsense about the (christian) biblical satan:) well... satanism isn't really a good name for the philosophy it self. i personally use the term humanistic nihilism, but as satanism is it's officel name, i thought the most of you would know about it:D i suggest that you read the satanic bible, if not for religious reasons then just for fun:D i have it as an PDF file if you're interested:D

Ive read parts of it many years back but if you have it on file then send it to me, I'd love to browse thru it again and add it to my library of stuff.

[Steven]

I have to agree. We are omnivores. Large quanitys of red meat helped in the evolution of our large brains. Spinach is a great source of Iron btw.

As for fasting, I understand the spiritual need that some people have to do it though i don't do it on porpuse I do sometimes goes for days without eating.

I am a strong beleiver in listening to your own body. You always needs water, at least a gallon a day for your kidneys and liver to function properly to filter your blood and flush the impuritys and dead cells from your body. Also to lubricate the places that needs it. To build up the layers of mucas membrane your body needs at it's various orrifices and line internal organs. Your body gives you signs for what it needs.. cravings, odd smells... for example.. if you smell copper or taste it in your mouth (at which point other people will think you smell like copper if they get close enough) you need iron.

If you were feeling ill after working out int he hot sun and eating meat made you feel better.. i would bet you needed that glass of water you drank to wash done the steak more than you needed the steak. The steak helped your muscles rebuild from using them (protien) and helped to build new blood cells (iron and protien) but the light headed weak feeling was your body needing water.

This sounds like bragging.. but I'm a 40 year old man that even doctors say has the health of a athletic 20 year old. Get intune with yourself... really learn your illnesess and adjust your diet to what your body needs. Your soul/spirit does not needs physical food to be healthy... thats a whole different book of stuff.

you've got some good insight on diet here Bud. I am a late bloomer in this arena and am trying to learn.

[Homicidalheathen]

Yes send it to me.

I get mad at one of my kids because the doctor said what I have is hereditary and that not eating enough fiber and eating too much dairy makes it worse....what do you think she practically lives on? Sugar and dairy. Butt head. I hope I don't have to take her in when she is older as she may get sick like me, and won't get married. Probably. Ever. At least thats what she thinks now.

well about taking my health for granted, you're properly right. I do what i want. if its unhealthy, then so be it! I sit in my room most of the day, drinking 2 L cola and playing games. and i'm quite fine with that:)

if there is something i hate about myself, it is that i sleep to little... i just can't go to bed at 11:00.. i can't... so i only get 7-6 hours of sleep. and then i can't concentrate in school, then i'm bored as fuck.. sitting 6 and a half hours doing nothing is boring.. but it's my own fault....

anyway. back to topic! Steven: oh thats whats shes been doing! then i understand it alittle more thank you:) well then my life must be damn complex, cuz i eat almost everything:D i drink when i can afford it(which is quite rare, but anyway:P) and sit in fag smoke alot. and i'm not opposed to eco-dope(hash, weed, mushrooms etc) in fact, i'd like to try it:D but i'm not getting in to coke, amp, LSD and that stuff. thats for yppies who like to dance stupid.

well.. i don't really know what a regular Joe Schmoe Saturday night Satanist is:P but a laveyan satanist is a person who belives or can relate to the philosophy of the satanic bible written by anton lavey and not some nonsense about the (christian) biblical satan:) well... satanism isn't really a good name for the philosophy it self. i personally use the term humanistic nihilism, but as satanism is it's officel name, i thought the most of you would know about it:D i suggest that you read the satanic bible, if not for religious reasons then just for fun:D i have it as an PDF file if you're interested:D

[uggae]

well all who whats a copy of it send me your msn/hotmail address