Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 So, I started taking Chantrix in an effort to finally give these evil things up for good. I'm not sure I cam going to make it through the regiment of pills. The side affects are killing me... I can handle the weird dreams/nightmares... I can almost completely handle the headaches.... and so for I have not expiranced the gastro problems (knock on wood)... it's the nausea. It's driving me crazy. Nothing makes the "OMG I'm going to puke!" feeling go away.
Fierce Critter Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 There are 3 men in my family who quit cold-turkey. My father, my brother-in-law, my husband. My brother-in-law didn't have any side effects. My dad, I dunno. My husband had a couple days of crankiness, and had to stay away from beer and other liquor, as it was too much of a trigger. Just quit, Gaf. Supposedly it's physiologically easier for men over women. I guess women are more strongly influenced the motions of smoking, which is why they recommend women use fake cigarettes with mint in them and stuff like that. And I don't mean to be an oversimplistic asshole in saying "just quit." I understand how strong an addiction nicotine is. But every time Jon tried things like cutting down, skipping days, etc, it just made him miserable and prolonged the agony until he just picked the damned things up again. Ask your family for forgiveness ahead of time, isolate yourself a bit, and just quit. Go on a weekend pow-wow for one, a sweat lodge without the sweat. Anything. I'm really pulling for you.
TygerLili Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 Good luck with the quitting! I know half a dozen people who have tried Chantix, and, as far as I know, only one is sticking with it. The others couldn't handle the side effects.
twilight Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 So, I started taking Chantrix in an effort to finally give these evil things up for good. I'm not sure I cam going to make it through the regiment of pills. The side affects are killing me... I can handle the weird dreams/nightmares... I can almost completely handle the headaches.... and so for I have not expiranced the gastro problems (knock on wood)... it's the nausea. It's driving me crazy. Nothing makes the "OMG I'm going to puke!" feeling go away. I know what you mean about nausea. I have been having gall bladder issues so I feel pukey every time I eat. I am on phenergen for my nausea. Only side effect for me is it makes me sleepy. Maybe they can give you something until it goes away?
Msterbeau Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 There are 3 men in my family who quit cold-turkey. My father, my brother-in-law, my husband. My brother-in-law didn't have any side effects. My dad, I dunno. My husband had a couple days of crankiness, and had to stay away from beer and other liquor, as it was too much of a trigger. Just quit, Gaf. Supposedly it's physiologically easier for men over women. I guess women are more strongly influenced the motions of smoking, which is why they recommend women use fake cigarettes with mint in them and stuff like that. And I don't mean to be an oversimplistic asshole in saying "just quit." I understand how strong an addiction nicotine is. But every time Jon tried things like cutting down, skipping days, etc, it just made him miserable and prolonged the agony until he just picked the damned things up again. Ask your family for forgiveness ahead of time, isolate yourself a bit, and just quit. Go on a weekend pow-wow for one, a sweat lodge without the sweat. Anything. I'm really pulling for you. My ex-wife just up and quit right after we started dating. She never understood how I couldn't just stop my addictions. Different people have different abilities to do that, I guess. Good luck Mark.
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted February 21, 2008 Author Posted February 21, 2008 I don't really like takiing pills or any other man made chemical into my body. The fact that I have broken down and started taking Chantrix is a major step for me... I'm not taking anything else. I can deal... or I will stop taking the pills.
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted February 21, 2008 Author Posted February 21, 2008 BTW... thanks for the support. This is going to be tough. 28 years of smoking.
twilight Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 I don't really like takiing pills or any other man made chemical into my body. The fact that I have broken down and started taking Chantrix is a major step for me... I'm not taking anything else. I can deal... or I will stop taking the pills. I understand. It took me weeks before I took these. I hate taking pills too. I read somewhere that side effects usually last about a week for new meds. So maybe it will go away for you.
n0Mad Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 I too just up and quit. The first two weeks were hell but it got easier after that. Then again, I only did it for a couple years. 28 years is a hard run to break. The only way to quit is to really want to quit. Most people say they want to, but they don't. You've got to really want it.
SuZQZ Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 So, I started taking Chantrix in an effort to finally give these evil things up for good. I'm not sure I cam going to make it through the regiment of pills. The side affects are killing me... I can handle the weird dreams/nightmares... I can almost completely handle the headaches.... and so for I have not expiranced the gastro problems (knock on wood)... it's the nausea. It's driving me crazy. Nothing makes the "OMG I'm going to puke!" feeling go away. The nausea was too much for me on these pills. I threw up everytime, no matter what I ate first, cracking the dose in half, etc, etc. After 2 weeks of that I had to give them up. Several people I know had similar nausea issues, but that subsided for them after a week and all of them have been smoke free for damn near a year now. Good luck to you, Gaf. Hopefully all the side affects diminish greatly and you have success. Remember that even though what you are attempting to do is excruciatingly difficult, you are a strong man. You can do it!!!
Scales Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 I was smoking like 3 Kools 100's a day, which isn't as bad as most smokers. Then quit cold turkey. Then relapsed with cigars, twice.. damn cigars. It is tough but worth giving up. This video helped me a lot and was something I watched right before I quit cigarettes.
jadnifer Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 If the Chantrix is too much for you, there are other methods. There is gum and the patches. My doctor said that most effective method is acupunture, but I have heard that that is uber expensive. There are also other prescription meds that they give to help you quit smoking. I take Wellbutrin for depression, but they also prescribe it in smaller doses for people that want to quit smoking. I know that when I started taking the Wellbutrin, just the thought of smoking a cigarette wanted to make me puke. It didn't seem to have a any side effects either, at least for me. I still have a cigarette here and there, although I don't know why because it turns my stomach. With any course you decide to follow, I wish you the best in this very difficult endeavor.
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted February 26, 2008 Author Posted February 26, 2008 I have tried Wellbutrin.. I like having sex and bowel movements too much (no, not at the same time) Both of those things stopped happening. I stopped taking the pills. I tried Wellbutrin XL... and was happy. All the damn time. No matter what. I had no other mood than "happy go lucky". I flushed the pills. I tried the gum.. omg how do you put that shit in your mouth without puking? I tried the longenzes... see the line above but with lots of mint. I tried patches... and passed out when my blood pressure spiked. I tried the inhaler... see the line above and it made my lungs hurt. I tried cold turkey... and smashed everything in my aparment the first time I should have gotten a little angry. Everything. I tried hypnosis... and found out I cant be hypnotized deep enough. (damn paranoia) if this does not work... i know how I am going to die.
n0Mad Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 if this does not work... i know how I am going to die. I've heard that phrase, "... or die trying." Looks like you'll be the only one to actually do so.
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted February 26, 2008 Author Posted February 26, 2008 Well, I have been saying for years that smoking was my chosen form of suicide... and then day that doc said "you are in the pre-stages of emphazema." and my outlook changed.
Shade Everdark Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Granted, 28 years is a lot longer than I've been smoking, but you're a tougher man than I am. I quit; I know you can do it too.
Hellion Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 Would be nice to quit cigarettes,been smoking myself for over 20 years side efects seem worse than the problem your trying to get rid of,and yes having the "Hershey Squirts" seems to be the most common side effect My mother quit using Zyban in 1998(small purple pill) Good Luck Gaf
SuZQZ Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 Keep at it, Gaf. You can do it. I hope the side effects have subsided some for you. As for Zyban (Wellbutrin in lower dose)... yeah, I can't take that any longer. Messed with me mentally. I started thinking I looked chubby whenever I saw myself in a mirror. Any of you who have met me can attest that me thinking I'm chubby is a definite sign that a medication is messing with my mind big time. Had to quit taking it.
jadnifer Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 Keep at it, Gaf. You can do it. I hope the side effects have subsided some for you. As for Zyban (Wellbutrin in lower dose)... yeah, I can't take that any longer. Messed with me mentally. I started thinking I looked chubby whenever I saw myself in a mirror. Any of you who have met me can attest that me thinking I'm chubby is a definite sign that a medication is messing with my mind big time. Had to quit taking it. Oh yeah, I am glad that you did because you are definitely NOT chubby.
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 OK, Epic Fail. I could not take the Chantrix anymore. I could handle not having a bowl movement for a week. I could handle the bad dreams and fitful sleep. I could handle the head aches and nasuea. I could not control my temper. I realized this when I was moving a kitchen chair... and when I put it down so hard that it exploded into little pieces... Well, I had to do some real thinking about why I was so mad. I don't like anything that takes away my ability to control my rage.
jadnifer Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 OK, Epic Fail. I could not take the Chantrix anymore. I could handle not having a bowl movement for a week. I could handle the bad dreams and fitful sleep. I could handle the head aches and nasuea. I could not control my temper. I realized this when I was moving a kitchen chair... and when I put it down so hard that it exploded into little pieces... Well, I had to do some real thinking about why I was so mad. I don't like anything that takes away my ability to control my rage. That was probably a wise decision if made your temper that bad. Do you think that you would be able to do it cold turkey??
Kit Kat P Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 I know you talked about your temper when you went cold turkey; have you considered getting a hotel room for 2 weeks to get thru the initial phase?
TygerLili Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 I know you talked about your temper when you went cold turkey; have you considered getting a hotel room for 2 weeks to get thru the initial phase? That might not be a bad idea. I've never smoked myself, but I went through a parent quitting while I was living at home, and a significant other quitting while we were together. Yeah, I got yelled at for everything. In both instances I was glad that a person I cared about was trying to improve their health, but if I never have to go through that again with someone it'll be too soon.
Gaf The Horse With Tears Posted March 6, 2008 Author Posted March 6, 2008 I don;t know what I am going to do... except die. i'll figure something out.
Kit Kat P Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 I only suggest that because it is what my dad had to do for smoking and my mom for nursing finals.
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