My Computer

[Angel of Death]

It's been running REALLY slow lately and just now when i was playing WoW ( ya i know I'm a dork) I left a bg and it crashed. Tried to log back in and my whole computer reset itself and started making really strange noises...idk whats going on but OMG i don't have the money for a new computer or new parts. I'm not to good when it comes to computers so i really have no idea whats going on. If someone could help me it'd be greatly appreciated.

[Goth Brooks]

It's been running REALLY slow lately and just now when i was playing WoW ( ya i know I'm a dork) I left a bg and it crashed. Tried to log back in and my whole computer reset itself and started making really strange noises...idk whats going on but OMG i don't have the money for a new computer or new parts. I'm not to good when it comes to computers so i really have no idea whats going on. If someone could help me it'd be greatly appreciated.

lemme know what server so i can come gank ya ;p

what kind of strange noises? what part of the boot process did it start making the noises at?

[Msterbeau]

Acting funny? Stop tickling it.

[freydis]

A little more specifics would help. What kind of noises? Beeping? Grinding? How long had you been on WoW, and how long had the computer been running?

[SuZQZ]

A little more specifics would help. What kind of noises? Beeping? Grinding? How long had you been on WoW, and how long had the computer been running?

Yes, more info please. Does it sound like the fan or possibly the hard drive making the noises. Also, what brand is the computer and is it a desktop or laptop/notebook? Does it try and boot up to the OS or does it freeze or give an error message? Have you tried starting in safe mode? If so, what happens?

[Angel of Death]

I have no idea what it is and Dani is no help....I just know I've had the computer for about a year and it shouldn't be doing this I am not a computer person I have no fucking clue whats makes the noises or why it resets. I don't know if it is a fan or not but i don't think so they are loud but they've nvr made a noise like this not a beep more like a grind than a beep but I wouldn't quite call it a grind hard to explain. I really don't think WoW has nething to do with it except for the fact that it is a in depth game and uses a lotta graphics and space, might trigger something idk, used to happen when I played sl but I quit because of it that was a while ago, WoW nvr triggered it before. I been playing WoW for the whole time I've had this computer and b4 that I played on Dani's computer....I am really truly lost on this....

[SuZQZ]

Hard to tell without sitting in front of it, but if it's a grinding (weird crunching) type noise it may be the hard drive. Does it boot up to your operating system at all?

[Angel of Death]

Hard to tell without sitting in front of it, but if it's a grinding (weird crunching) type noise it may be the hard drive. Does it boot up to your operating system at all?

It norm boots up fine...but it starts making those weird sounds, seems to only happen when I'm running video games that take a lot to run

[freydis]

It norm boots up fine...but it starts making those weird sounds, seems to only happen when I'm running video games that take a lot to run

This could be a similar problem that David had..... there werent funny noises, but his computer would just suddenly re-boot in the middle of WoW, or anything graphics-intensive. What it turned out to be, was that his graphics card was producing too much heat, and setting off the motherboard overheat protection thingy. Maybe try getting a few extra case fans? Or replace the ones you have with better ones? Another thing you could try to see if it *is* a heat issue: take off the side access panel (if you have one) and perhaps run a small desk fan pointed at it, in an effort to keep things cool. Does it die as quickly? If not..... get some better case ventilation, fans with a higher speed, etc. Fans are usually not too bad, newegg.com always runs good specials.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I would get a can of canned air. Then I would blow out the inside of your case.. they are dust magnets... I would pay very close attention to the video card heat sink and fan.

If the problem only happens when your playing video games.. I would hazard a guesse that your video card is over heating. Some newer cards will infact beep at you if they over heat... also, most cards have a speed variable fan on them... as the card gets hotter... the fan spins faster.. which makes it make more noise. If you hvae had it a hyear and never cleaned it... I bet dust is your problem.

[Rev.Reverence]

I am sooo new at this... but did you do a virus scan... I have seen viruses do no end of weird shite to 'puters...

[Angel of Death]

I would get a can of canned air. Then I would blow out the inside of your case.. they are dust magnets... I would pay very close attention to the video card heat sink and fan.

If the problem only happens when your playing video games.. I would hazard a guesse that your video card is over heating. Some newer cards will infact beep at you if they over heat... also, most cards have a speed variable fan on them... as the card gets hotter... the fan spins faster.. which makes it make more noise. If you hvae had it a hyear and never cleaned it... I bet dust is your problem.

Already did that no help and this is a brand ned graphics card replaced the old 1 thinking it might help and it didn't

This could be a similar problem that David had..... there werent funny noises, but his computer would just suddenly re-boot in the middle of WoW, or anything graphics-intensive. What it turned out to be, was that his graphics card was producing too much heat, and setting off the motherboard overheat protection thingy. Maybe try getting a few extra case fans? Or replace the ones you have with better ones? Another thing you could try to see if it *is* a heat issue: take off the side access panel (if you have one) and perhaps run a small desk fan pointed at it, in an effort to keep things cool. Does it die as quickly? If not..... get some better case ventilation, fans with a higher speed, etc. Fans are usually not too bad, newegg.com always runs good specials.

I think I may have to try this replacing the fans thing...idk if it'll help tho my fans seem to work fine and I just cleaned out my computer like 2 days ago....so far it still runnin like shit

[Angel of Death]

I am sooo new at this... but did you do a virus scan... I have seen viruses do no end of weird shite to 'puters...

Tryed that too it said there was nutthin harmful on my puter I'm soooo freekin lost....

[Rev.Reverence]

did you shake four fist and cuss?

i've seen nerds do that...

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

OK... When you switched Vid cards... Did you completly remove theold drivers and load the newest? What brand/dodel did oyu ahve before and what did you replace it with?

[Angel of Death]

did you shake four fist and cuss?

i've seen nerds do that...

LMAO

OK... When you switched Vid cards... Did you completly remove theold drivers and load the newest? What brand/dodel did oyu ahve before and what did you replace it with?

I completly rebooted everything when I switched the card. I jus bought a better newer version of my old card, Nivida GForce 5200 FX

[Goth Brooks]

i think your best bet is to sucker one of the nerdier guys on this board to do a house call.

wink, smile, and a tight shirt with some cleavage and you get tech support for life.

[Angel of Death]

i think your best bet is to sucker one of the nerdier guys on this board to do a house call.

wink, smile, and a tight shirt with some cleavage and you get tech support for life.

hehe sounds like a good idea...now *ponders* who can I "sucker" into this one....

[Misanthropy77]

One word: Shotgun. :D

I'll talk to my SO in a little bit and see what he thinks. He's a computer tech. Maybe he can help us help YOU!

Technology is so bloody frustrating. GAH. *HUGS*

[Misanthropy77]

Ok..drumroll...

LOL.

Of course, without actually sitting down and looking at the computer, it is hard to diagnose it..but I talked to my SO and he said it sounds like it is either a bad CPU fan OR that your hard drive is dying a slow and painful death. It does happen sometimes..we had a fairly new harddrive up and die on us..thank the gods for warranties. :D I would personally try the cheap fix first..the fan. Replace it completely and see if it helps..it certainly isn't going to hurt..and then if that doesn't help..you may need to have that harddrive tested.

Good luck!!

[freydis]

Already did that no help and this is a brand ned graphics card replaced the old 1 thinking it might help and it didn't

I think I may have to try this replacing the fans thing...idk if it'll help tho my fans seem to work fine and I just cleaned out my computer like 2 days ago....so far it still runnin like shit

The fans *could* be running fine, and it could *still* be a cooling problem. They key here is: are they keeping it cool *enough*? David had fans that ran just fine, they just werent cooling the machine enough. You vcould have the same heat problem.

[Shade Everdark]

The fans *could* be running fine, and it could *still* be a cooling problem. They key here is: are they keeping it cool *enough*? David had fans that ran just fine, they just werent cooling the machine enough. You vcould have the same heat problem.

A good program to check the CPU temperature, along with a host of other things, is Sandra, by SiSoft. Do a Google search for them. The light version is free, but only works with XP and Vista. If it's telling you that the CPU temp is over around 140 degrees Fahrenheit, then you need more cooling. Personally, I try to keep my machine down below 100, but I've also got mine slightly overclocked.

Anyway, keep us posted.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

LMAO

I completly rebooted everything when I switched the card. I jus bought a better newer version of my old card, Nivida GForce 5200 FX

Can you further explain "completly rebooted everything"? Did you format your hard drive and reintall windows? Or did you go to add/re,ove progrms and uninstall the video card drivers complty and then reinstall them with the new card? Did you get the newest drivers from nvidia?

The reason i ask these questions are many fold.

1. There is a FX5200 in the mix. The FX5200 chip is flawed. It gives about 40-50% the performance it was designed to give. It generates about 50% more heat that it was designed to. To top that off, some of them are extrmely picky about what driver version to use. Any FX5200 you bought, even if it "brand new" is about 4 years old. They stopped making 5200 chips 4 months after they started. It was replaced with the FX5500. The FX5600 was replaced with the FX5700. The FX5800 chip was replaced with the FX5900 series.

2. Nvidia drivers are... well, fickle. You should never just swap cards, even if your new card is the same generation. It's even worse if the new card is a newer gen. If you replaced the card with a newer gen and are using older gen drivers... big problems. If you used the newest drivers on an older card... big problems.

Tell me exactly what brand/model card you have. I'll tell you what drivers you should be loading. I'll also point you at a program that will completly remove existing drivers. (nvideas uninstall sucks)

Keep in mind though, you may have a bum card.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

A good program to check the CPU temperature, along with a host of other things, is Sandra, by SiSoft. Do a Google search for them. The light version is free, but only works with XP and Vista. If it's telling you that the CPU temp is over around 140 degrees Fahrenheit, then you need more cooling. Personally, I try to keep my machine down below 100, but I've also got mine slightly overclocked.

Anyway, keep us posted.

Just an FYI... both AMD and Intel cpus can operate just fine up to about 170F but you start loosing some performance after 150F. They die at about 180F. They also loose lifespand if you run them hot.

If you try to replace the CPU fan... be very carefull. Thermal paste becomes glue after a while. if you can replace just the fan, your good to go.. but if you have to change both the Heatsink and FAn... have pro do it. That way, if the chip gets ruined, the PC shop has to replace it.

[Angel of Death]

Can you further explain "completly rebooted everything"? Did you format your hard drive and reintall windows? Or did you go to add/re,ove progrms and uninstall the video card drivers complty and then reinstall them with the new card? Did you get the newest drivers from nvidia?

The reason i ask these questions are many fold.

1. There is a FX5200 in the mix. The FX5200 chip is flawed. It gives about 40-50% the performance it was designed to give. It generates about 50% more heat that it was designed to. To top that off, some of them are extrmely picky about what driver version to use. Any FX5200 you bought, even if it "brand new" is about 4 years old. They stopped making 5200 chips 4 months after they started. It was replaced with the FX5500. The FX5600 was replaced with the FX5700. The FX5800 chip was replaced with the FX5900 series.

2. Nvidia drivers are... well, fickle. You should never just swap cards, even if your new card is the same generation. It's even worse if the new card is a newer gen. If you replaced the card with a newer gen and are using older gen drivers... big problems. If you used the newest drivers on an older card... big problems.

Tell me exactly what brand/model card you have. I'll tell you what drivers you should be loading. I'll also point you at a program that will completly remove existing drivers. (nvideas uninstall sucks)

Keep in mind though, you may have a bum card.

I re-formated my hard-drive and reinstalled windows...well actually I had Dani do it cuz...well she knows a bit more about computers than I do....I'm jus plain stupid when it comes down to computers and what makes em work or not work....lol