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[Homicidalheathen]

anyone familiar with making your own pattern...my friend and I want to do a huge mandala thing and we are going to use permanent marker on the plastic form I guess.,....?

I was afraid it might bleed onto the string and discolor it eventually sometimes perma marker does that.....

How else would I color the plastic? Thanks.

We also prefer to use the cloth...form...but...dont know about dying such a design and are afraid the edges will run...color wise...and wanted to use markers....anyone ever dye your own form on fabric such as this....

http://crossstitch.about.com/od/aidafabric/p/aidaprofile.htm

Thanks. I dont want the bleeding is all. I will be doing the marker in the color of the string but its a intricate design and am afraid the blue will bleed onto the white ect on hot humid days as we are in michigan and all.

the site doesn't help much with patterns you make yourself...that are intricate and all

[Rev.Reverence]

if you use marker...use FINE TIP SHARPIES...they come in many colours and I do not recall them bleeding, in the amount your talking about...ie. I wrote and coloured in a hooded sweater...it bled after many washes but it was covered in marker...

Yup....FINE TIP SHARPIES.. they make lines like thinner than this________________

[sass_in_the_pants]

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2006/02/m...stitch_cha.html

http://www.darklilac.com/upload.jsp

Check out craftster.org

[Marmee_Noir]

Hmm got a couple ideas for ya.. As for your own pattern... You can by this chalk transfer paper in any sewing department. You just lay the chalk side down on the material and trace whatever pattern you like onto it. Great thing about the stuff is if you are free-handing something once you lift the paper off you can use a small piece of chalk to hand fix or add more details.

Specially if you are going to use a permanent marker this way you don't fudge up..

So moral of the story is I would do the mandala on a piece of paper blow it up to the size you want. Use a piece of chalk trace paper in between the blown up pattern and the fabric and trace the pattern to transfer it.

As for the whole sharpie thing.. I've made a bazillion punk patches using the markers and YES pretty much no matter what type of fabric you use it will bleed.. Now what you can do is anticipate how much it will bleed.. Use very light pressure and they’ll bled less.. Try using different tip sizes and see how much they bleed..

You could use and ultra-fine black sharpie to outline everything and then use other colors in regular tip size to color the pattern in.. The black will hide bleeding between different colors..

There are special fabric markers you can get but I've never used them and costing nearly $2.00 each, if you have a project that uses a lot of different colors it can get expensive..

Now last but not least.... lol I've used that sort of material for cross stitching and I've dyed my own material... But I've never dyed a pattern nor on that type of material. I'm not thinking that sort of material would take to good anyways... I would go for a heavy canvas material if you're looking for something that would do well hanging on a wall..

If all fails though do a mini-mock-up one and see how it goes.. This way you can experiment with different materials, patterns, markers and blah blah blah…

Anyways hope you have a blast doing it and I’m sure whatever you figure out it will turn out great..

[Marmee_Noir]

One last thing... Have you thought about using fabric paints? They come in a bazillion colors, they don't bleed, the bottles have a fine tip to you could do a very intricate patern with them and you can also get them in puff-up and different textures! Even glow-in-the-dark and black light sensative colors...

[Rev.Reverence]

nevermind my madd babbling...I did not get the question...sharpie won't stick on plastic...

[Homicidalheathen]

i found fabric markers