Debate of Transplants patients.

[Guest Megalicious]

We had this debate in class, I just found it interesting how many different views there were amongst my class mates. I was wondering what you think(well most of you anyway).

Should people who are alcoholics be allowed to have a liver transplant if they come up on the list of potential transplant patients?

Why? Points of view? facts?

Like I said before it was very mixed in class and I was kind of surpirzed.

edited because I totally type out the wrong question, I'm so not awake yet ..

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

We had this debate in class, I just found it interesting how many different views there were amongst my class mates. I was wondering what you think(well most of you anyway).

Should people who are alcoholics be allowed to have a liver transplant if they come up on the list of potential transplant patients?

Why? Points of view? facts?

Like I said before it was very mixed in class and I was kind of surpirzed.

edited because I totally type out the wrong question, I'm so not awake yet ..

I would allow 1 liver transplant for people that are alcoholics. I am giving you a brand new chance.....if you continue to drink, then you have stated that you don't care that your alcoholism destroyed your origional liver.

I don't see why you should get another one if your going to continue to abuse it.

though Meg...I did notice that you didn't post your opinion on the matter....waiting to see what comes up??

[Guest Megalicious]

though Meg...I did notice that you didn't post your opinion on the matter....waiting to see what comes up??

I really don't know.

I am kind of on the fence.

On one hand I truly believe that if they have wait just as long as anyone else they have the right to have a transplant, just as anyone else would.

On the other hand, I think of some little kid that needs one, that has done nothing wrong to destroy what developed in in utero. The fact that someone that did NOT respect their own body would get a transplant before them leaves me with a VERY bad taste in my mouth.

I can see both sides. I just am not sure where I stand.

[Restless Oblivion]

Tough one... I'd tend to say everyone deserves a second chance, but following the transplant they should make it a compulsory thing that the person goes through rehab/therapy for their issues.

[Rayne]

Wow. I can't even answer this.

My father has Chirrosis of the Liver. Caused by Alcoholism. He has been in rehab SIX times. It has never worked.

I can't honestly answer the question.

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

actually....something occured to me...Meg...isn't there cases where the effects of the alcohalism start to get carried over to the new liver, because they still reside somewhat in the blood stream?

My medical personal is at work...so I can't ask her.

but I thought that I read something...a while ago...on a transplant where it carried over.

[TitsMcGee]

The liver actually has the ability to regrow, so if you transplant half a healthy liver into the alcoholic and the other half into the child that needs one everybody wins.

[Destroit]

The liver actually has the ability to regrow, so if you transplant half a healthy liver into the alcoholic and the other half into the child that needs one everybody wins.

From what I've been taught in my A&P class like two semesters ago, the liver replaces tissues, sure, but it's non functioning fibrous tissue, not the filtering type tissue that had originally been there.

Basically, you destroy it and your body fills it in with "stuff" to make it structurally sound and that's about it, no functioning though those fibrous tissues.

That's just what I've been taught though...

[TitsMcGee]

From what I've been taught in my A&P class like two semesters ago, the liver replaces tissues, sure, but it's non functioning fibrous tissue, not the filtering type tissue that had originally been there.

Basically, you destroy it and your body fills it in with "stuff" to make it structurally sound and that's about it, no functioning though those fibrous tissues.

That's just what I've been taught though...

I wasn't sure I was quite right myself so thanks for setting me straight.

[Guest Megalicious]

actually....something occured to me...Meg...isn't there cases where the effects of the alcohalism start to get carried over to the new liver, because they still reside somewhat in the blood stream?

My medical personal is at work...so I can't ask her.

but I thought that I read something...a while ago...on a transplant where it carried over.

I think it's rare but does happen, I believe it has to to with malfunction of the Peroxisomes, which is an total different type of issue.

I know it (alocholalism) causes in some cases anemia, blood clothing problems, and damages white blood cells, and the immune system.

Its a good point to bring up though, I mean what use is the liver if its just going to be damaged AGAIN even if said person does/did stop drinking.

I just don't know. I suppose I am leading more towards "they should be alllow" side.

I am trying to remain objective, and my objective mind tells me that they should have every right, just as anyone else would.

Its the emotion and judgement that I am putting on the "they should'nt be allowed" side that causes the doubt.

And emotional mindset always seems to cloud the truth, IMO of course.