Why vote 4 McCain?

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I agree, a good discussion is not only constructive, it's informative and healthy.

I'd also like to point out, I too, am I centrist. We will have to discuss that somewhere else though, as I don't want to derail your thread.

[phee]

What McCain has going for him IMO (and I won't get into both sides here as there is a lot of board for that)

-Experience, even if I don't think his party line is the way to go, he knows the ropes.

-He is smart... anyone that thinks he is not is not paying any attention. I would much rather elect a smart man then a dumb one.

-War knowledge... for better or worse, he knows what war feels like, and does. He has been on both sides of the fence (literally).

-In the past he has been more then willing to stand up to his party and smack them in the nose with the proverbial newspaper... I like that (whether he still is willing to that now, I am not sure... but I still like it.)

[TitsMcGee]

What McCain has going for him IMO (and I won't get into both sides here as there is a lot of board for that)

-Experience, even if I don't think his party line is the way to go, he knows the ropes.

-He is smart... anyone that thinks he is not is not paying any attention. I would much rather elect a smart man then a dumb one.

-War knowledge... for better or worse, he knows what war feels like, and does. He has been on both sides of the fence (literally).

-In the past he has been more then willing to stand up to his party and smack them in the nose with the proverbial newspaper... I like that (whether he still is willing to that now, I am not sure... but I still like it.)

Thank you for the awesome visual lol. I agree with you on all of this Phee. McCain knows his way around Washington so he knows how to get things done. I'm also for his ecomonic plan especially of what is going on right now on Wall St., he wants to make it so there's no corruption. He supports getting us off of foregin oil but having us use the natural gas and oil we have on our shores.

[phee]

Thank you for the awesome visual lol. I agree with you on all of this Phee. McCain knows his way around Washington so he knows how to get things done. I'm also for his ecomonic plan especially of what is going on right now on Wall St., he wants to make it so there's no corruption. He supports getting us off of foregin oil but having us use the natural gas and oil we have on our shores.

Cool....

That being said... I am still not voting for him... but I do like to see both sides instead of getting blinded by dogma from either side

[Rev.Reverence]

Cool....

... but I do like to see both sides instead of getting blinded by dogma from either side

I have an extremely hard time with this facet...I am just so used to politicians being crooked assholes & shiester fuckwads...(expletives trimmed down to save time)...

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Don;t listen to what they say... Look at what they have done and who they have dinner with.

[phee]

Don;t listen to what they say... Look at what they have done and who they have dinner with.

I could not agree more....

[sass_in_the_pants]

His experience has been mentioned. He first started in the House of Representatives in 1982 - that's 26 years. His re-elections to the Senate over the next 20 years were all overwhelming victories. That tells me something - that tells me that the people he was elected to serve were overwhelmingly happy with him. I think that's a good sign.

And, he's been a politician for 26 years - 26 years and ALL the 'dirt' they can get on John Mccain is that he was innocent of any wrongdoing in the Keating Five scandal. That's it. I think it's incredibly impressive that someone could keep their nose clean for a quarter of a century of politicking.

Campaign Finance Reform and Bipartisanship - The McCain-Feingold act, which targeted 'soft money' contributions to politicians was sponsored by him, and Democrat Feingold and it shows me two things. Now, the act isn't perfect - anyone can tell you that there is still work to be done on campaign finance reform, but McCain did what he believed in and helped clean up campaign finance regulations and he did it with, horror of horrors!, a DEMOCRAT! He worked with Democratic Senator Ted Kennedy on immigration reform. He openly disagreed with Rumsfeld and has often criticized the ineffectiveness of our presence in Iraq (he voted for the war in Iraq, as did almost all of the rest of the Republicans in the Senate, and more than half of the Democrats, and he continues to support the war, but he has been critical of our actions there). One of his major points is that he will reach across party lines to accomplish his goals, and I, for one, believe him. It's what he's done for the last 26 years. I don't see why he would stop now.

I also think his military experience and the years he spent as a POW gives him an advantage in his decision making ability for both the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. I do not think that a man who was tortured by the Vietnamese for five and a half years is someone who takes the idea of war lightly. In what I think is a real show of character, he was a key figure in normalizing relations with Vietnam in the 90s. What kind of person gets tortured with rope bindings and round-the-clock beatings every two hours (that's why he can't raise his arms above his shoulders, by the way - the Vietnamese shattered his shoulders) and then reaches out a hand of peace to the people who did that to him? I don't think I would have that strength of character, but I hope my president would.

While a POW, his father was named commander of US forces in Vietnam, and as a result McCain was offered early release. He declined, saying he would only take it if it was granted to the other prisoners, too. That's when the beatings really started. Again, there is a show of character there that I think would serve well in the WHite House.

Abortion is an issue for me. I cannot effectively state my view on McCain without contrasting them to Obama's, so I will simply say that when a political candidate is more in favor of abortions than NARAL, I get really, really worried. For reference, please look into the Born Alive Infant Protection Act and you will see what I am saying.

There's more, but I should just shut up.

Also, when I was at the McCain rally, I met two total stoners who helped me with the babies. Stoners for McCain. Nice.

[n0Mad]

Don;t listen to what they say... Look at what they have done and who they have dinner with.

Good points. Another fun thing to do is count how many smear ads against the other candidate there are. While I have seen some smear ads against Obama, I've seen at least twice as many against McCain. Don't tell me what the other guy is doing wrong, tell me what you're doing right. One thing I did see, however, was an ad from McCain congratulating Obama on a job well done. Was it a political tactic? Of course. But I do think McCain was sincere and it impressed me that it wasn't another smear.

[n0Mad]

This is an interesting video of why a person supports McCain/Palin. Granted, he does spend a lot of time talking about why he doesn't like the Democratic party and chooses to be a Republican but he's just so impassioned about his choice and hopes to inspire others. It's a bit long, just under 10 minutes but it moves quickly and he's a very engaging speaker.

[Rev.Reverence]

This thread is getting informative...expect questions from me here...tomorrow...there is not excuse to go into this right NOW...as I am getting my drink on RIGHT NOW!.....but I did want to tag that I am digging this.

*sip*

[SaGa]

i can say what i dislike about obama more then i like about mc cain

aside from obama being a cult of personality. hes going to end up turning this country to socialism. him being the agent of change isnt going to go in a constitutional direction.

mc cain im not to happy about either. the economy isnt his strong point. since the economy hit as the big bomb, hes suffering...he cant shrug like reagan did when the market is crashing. his strong points happens to be the other issues. constitutional issues are a big part. the executive branch not overstepping its bounds, something i cant trust with obama.

[Rev.Reverence]

This is an interesting video of why a person supports McCain/Palin. Granted, he does spend a lot of time talking about why he doesn't like the Democratic party and chooses to be a Republican but he's just so impassioned about his choice and hopes to inspire others. It's a bit long, just under 10 minutes but it moves quickly and he's a very engaging speaker.

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A really good speaker...but...alas...I see his tin-hat...he is as one sided as most of the Leftist-tin-hats...& just as nuts as the lot of us.

*still perched on THE fence*

*still folding tin foil into triangles for the super dome*

[n0Mad]

Love him or hate him, voting for him or not, you gotta respect this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvcuEqGUwmc

(The French overdubs on the video are annoying though)

[Hellion]

One of McCain's major faults is supporting huge crooked corporations that like to move jobs outside of the country and add to the unemployment rate in America as well.

[SaGa]

honestly all politicians fail.

[n0Mad]

One of McCain's major faults is supporting huge crooked corporations that like to move jobs outside of the country and add to the unemployment rate in America as well.

And that's a reason to vote for him because, I'm sorry, but I thought that's what this thread was about?

(Just teasing you, ya know. )

[Goth Brooks]

he's old, white, christian, and mean

he's what this country needs more of

[n0Mad]

Because Chuck Norris said so:

[creatureofthenyte]

Why vote for McCain?

His political career was not started in the living room of the home of a radical, former Terrorist.

McCain is not friends with, nor has he ever been friends with radical, former Terrorist.

McCain has never compared America to nazi germany.

McCain does not have a NAIVE approach towards foreign policy.

McCain will not sit down and talk without pre-conditions, with foreign leaders who would rather see us dead.

McCain is not friends with people who used to belong to radical political organizations that Hate Jewish people.

McCain has tested, proven leadership experience.

[creatureofthenyte]

One of McCain's major faults is supporting huge crooked corporations that like to move jobs outside of the country and add to the unemployment rate in America as well.

One of the main reasons why coporations move jobs overseas is because in America, business Taxes are so high, and Obama wants to RAISE those taxes even Higher, so even MORE jobs will go overseas.

McCain wants to Lower business & Capital gains taxes, so companies will keep jobs here in America, and ad jobs.

[SaGa]

he's old, white, christian, and mean

he's what this country needs more of

you can always trust a asshole to be a asshole. and if hes nice hes just doing it to not piss everyone off

but you can never trust a nice person to always be nice.