Microsoft Silverlight

[jynxxxedangel]

Has anyone downloaded this yet? If so, your reviews, please. I'm most curious to hear how well it works with my beloved Firefox..

[Msterbeau]

Seems like I downloaded it and installed on my Mac... Hmm.. I'll look when I get home. I wish Microsoft would quit making stuff for which there is already a viable standard (Flash) just to get there hooks into us and control content. I hate having to download multiples of add-ons just to view one site and they already control a large percentage of the OS market. While I'm ranting.. Let me rant about the idiots who code for IE and it's various proprietary components, thus leaving a chunk of the browser market unable to view their content. Web standards are there for a reason, assholes.

[jynxxxedangel]

Yeah, that's why I'm hesitant to download it. The need for the application keeps coming up on a lot of the movie sites I visit, though, when I find things I want to see. I distrust Microsoft's intentions, with this one. I'll bet there's a tracking beacon, and spyware on the program, to find out what the consumers are watching and listening to..just like WMP. I often feel as if I have to choose between the devil and the deep blue sea, when force-fed these new "helpful" applications.

Microsoft WMP and Apple iTunes can both spy on everything you own in your library-- including pirated stuff.

So, if ye be pirate, be careful to tweak the settings to break the internet connections while using those proggies! A friend of mine found out the hard way, when he got popped for owning over $2000 of pirated music. Nice, huh? The way he got busted, is there were some bad downloads on the playlist he loaded-- and WMP has that "convenient" feature of repairing bad downloads digitally by searching the song's license through iTunes, and basically splicing it with a good mp3. Well, this is how they catch ya. If there is unlicensed stuff in your collection, beware!! *straightface*

I need to see more feedback from the un-slanted masses, before I decide whether or not to download this one.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Seems like I downloaded it and installed on my Mac... Hmm.. I'll look when I get home. I wish Microsoft would quit making stuff for which there is already a viable standard (Flash) just to get there hooks into us and control content. I hate having to download multiples of add-ons just to view one site and they already control a large percentage of the OS market. While I'm ranting.. Let me rant about the idiots who code for IE and it's various proprietary components, thus leaving a chunk of the browser market unable to view their content. Web standards are there for a reason, assholes.

Standard? What standard is that?

[n0Mad]

[Head Wreck]

bitch as we might about the evil empire. a lot of standardisation today is due to Microsoft.

[Msterbeau]

Standard? What standard is that?

http://www.w3.org/

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

And where exactly is Flash on there?

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

BTW.. Silverlight, though it can do the same thing as Flash... is not inteh same catagory of software. Silverlight is a programing standard for all web content that the W3C is comparing against HTML5 as the next web standard.

[Msterbeau]

And where exactly is Flash on there?

I was referring to my later comments about IE, not Silverlight.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

IE supports all W3C standards.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

If a page is written to be 100% Firefox compatiable... IE will have problems rendering it.. thats because firefox uses Canvas... which is not a standard.

[jynxxxedangel]

So WHO has it?? Technical discussion, rather than debates! I'm so curious, as to how many bugs and glitches it has..

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I have it. I have not had nay problems with it yet. It is software though... so I expect some bugs. The only "software" I have ever seen without bugs... was a batch file that cleared my screen in a DOS enviroment.

[jynxxxedangel]

What browser are you using, Gaf?

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

IE7 for most things. Firefox about 25% of the time, a little bit of Chrome.

[Msterbeau]

Yeah, that's why I'm hesitant to download it. The need for the application keeps coming up on a lot of the movie sites I visit, though, when I find things I want to see. I distrust Microsoft's intentions, with this one. I'll bet there's a tracking beacon, and spyware on the program, to find out what the consumers are watching and listening to..just like WMP. I often feel as if I have to choose between the devil and the deep blue sea, when force-fed these new "helpful" applications.

Microsoft WMP and Apple iTunes can both spy on everything you own in your library-- including pirated stuff.

So, if ye be pirate, be careful to tweak the settings to break the internet connections while using those proggies! A friend of mine found out the hard way, when he got popped for owning over $2000 of pirated music. Nice, huh? The way he got busted, is there were some bad downloads on the playlist he loaded-- and WMP has that "convenient" feature of repairing bad downloads digitally by searching the song's license through iTunes, and basically splicing it with a good mp3. Well, this is how they catch ya. If there is unlicensed stuff in your collection, beware!! *straightface*

I need to see more feedback from the un-slanted masses, before I decide whether or not to download this one.

I'd like to know how any of the services can tell an illegally downloaded MP3 from one ripped from a CD you bought legitimately? They're essentially the same. Knowing what's in your library doesn't mean they can tell the difference. I'm sure they CAN tell what content was bought through them, in the case of iTunes. But they already know that since you have to sign up with them and use a credit card to purchase that content. I'm not sure I buy your friend's story as told here...

[zenaleigh]

People still use IE?? I only do if forced

[Msterbeau]

IE supports all W3C standards.

IE 8 will. Or so they say.

IE7 made an attempt to but was not fully compliant. Earlier version are worse still, and now IE 8 has to have a bunch of "quirk modes" and other band-aids because of the number of sites out there that were coded for those earlier versions. If IE had followed standards back then and people coded to standards there wouldn't be such a mess more recently. Microsoft kept adding proprietary tags and features, many of which were not approved by W3C.

And who codes specifically to Firefox? Coding for Firefox = coding to standards. IE has problems rendering it because it ISN'T.

And Canvas? That's part of HTML5. Standard on almost every browser EXCEPT IE.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Marc, there isn't one browser on the market that is 100% W3C compliant.

Firefox isn't even the "most compliant". Thats Opera.

Canvas may be what a few of the other browsers use, but it is not part of HTML5. It's a graphics rendering extention that has been proposed. Just like Silverlight.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

People still use IE?? I only do if forced

Yes, about 47% of people browsing the web.

[Head Wreck]

in fact, malicious software writers by nature go for the larger target. that at the moment I'm sorry to say, is firefox. i am a firefox user but it will soon become a victim of its own success.

i have had no issues with silver light so far.

and tbh i am rather pissed of with apple atm. being an ipod owner (for compatibility with my car head unit) i have itunes. (though when i had to rebuild my computer last its decided to fuck about and certan files no longer play completely, but pause untill i fast forward or just skip on 1 minute in a 5 minute song) Itunes has decided for me that i need safari. *facepalms*