Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

[lullaby1031]

Trailer

YAY!!

[lullaby1031]

you have to scroll down - theres a bunch of cool trailers on there

[SomeDanGuy]

Harumph! It wants me to install some microsoft software :doh

[SpidersMoment]

i saw the commercial the other day, and almost had a heart attack. I FINALLY found out when it was coming out. July 15th, and it's the same time that i'm gonna be down in Ga with my sister. We share a mutal lust for johnny. So i called her right away. After annoying her with "guess whats" and "remember whens" i told her and she got excited, but not as excited as me. WE both agreed that we would see it, but i may have to go with my bf since it's his birthday that day.

oh well. I'm extremely anxious to see this.

[Brenda Starrr]

This was one of those stories that I could never get into. However, I feel the need to actually go see this in the theatre.

[Nienna]

OMG I'm so excited I could explode! I LOVE the book, the original movie.. Johnny Depp probably can't trump Gene Wilder's performance, but he'll come close, and he's sooooo hot!

[Nerdcore]

I really want to see this

it looks interesting :blink

[JaneDead]

oh yeah i forgot about this. it should be interesting to see how it is done.

[lullaby1031]

I had to call down home to get them online and check it out for themselves since their fans. Heh, my Uncles was all pissed off cuz thats his favorite movie and to have Johhny Depp in it is an abolishment to him (he's jealous...) - and with that said he keeps saying "What the hell is wrong with his face!?" cuz in the trailer he looks funky. But I <3 Johhny Depp and nothing has ever changed that. :grin

[JaneDead]

i am sure he has make up to look a little strange maybe?

i think johnny depp would be a perfect person to have in that role.

[lullaby1031]

Oh yea its the make up effects - I'm wondering if he's wearing contacts myself but his grin is wicked!

I heard he hung around with Manson for this movie and listened to his older album the whole time to get "inspriation" for how he wanted to portray the character. Anyone heard any truth to that? I felt either guy would have done great in this role, but I understand where they might have felt that would have swayed some peoples view on seeing the movie.

[Nienna]

Oh yea its the make up effects - I'm wondering if he's wearing contacts myself but his grin is wicked!

I heard he hung around with Manson for this movie and listened to his older album the whole time to get "inspriation" for how he wanted to portray the character.  Anyone heard any truth to that?  I felt either guy would have done great in this role, but I understand where they might have felt that would have swayed some peoples view on seeing the movie.

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He can do anything. I mean just look at some of his past characters...

[Brenda Starrr]

Johnny is sexy.

Period.

[lullaby1031]

hehe I agree

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[lullaby1031]

Remakes can never be as great as the first - but we still liked it - we were bitching about how they shortened the really great parts and cheapened others like the Umpas but what can you expect?! My only hope is that the D.V.D. offers an alternate movie option for the real die hard fans - but even thats reaching a bit to keep my hopes up.

[Vater Araignee]

Wilder was fucking awesome as Wonka this is yet another remake that did not need to be made.

Oh Burton is just a freak that ruins every remake and batman he touches. Pee-wee's Big Adventure just sucked.

He should stick to animation and weird over the top stories.

[gothicmom]

I loved it!

[Jarodaka]

After reading the book, I can see what Tim Burton was trying to do. He actually followed it pretty closely. I can also see why Roald Dahl made the changes he did for the 1971 movie -- the book wasn't all that compelling. The changes made (from the book) to the first movie were there to make us feel for Charlie and his family. The book doesn't really "test" Charlie's character (with the everlasting gobstopper). As Tim Burton was following the book, this is reflected in the movie. It looks like Dahl turned the story from an interesting distraction for children into a Hollywood movie. Tim Burton has successfully translated an interesting distraction into a movie and that is all.

[wheresmypiggy]

I had to go back and re-read the book. I have to admit Tim Burton did a good job.

What was this nonsense that Johnny studied Marilyn Manson for the part? Hmmm... Have to see how much truth is in that.

I guess all in all I liked the movie. Several drug references as well as sexual ones. I can see why the original strayed from the book. Made it more for kids.

While sitting in the theater I saw many parents shocked at the movie. Hell what did they expect? Its Johnny Depp and Tim Burton! Didn't they follow Nightmare Before Xmas more closely?

Now that I understand more what was trying to be presented here I appreciate the movie that much more. Though after seeing the original movie its hard to to like the remake. I just look at them now as two totally seperate stories.

Movie 1) as seen by Charlie.

Movie 2) as seen by Willy Wonka.

[Vater Araignee]

After reading the book, I can see what Tim Burton was trying to do.  He actually followed it pretty closely.  I can also see why Roald Dahl made the changes he did for the 1971 movie -- the book wasn't all that compelling.  The changes made (from the book) to the first movie were there to make us feel for Charlie and his family.  The book doesn't really "test" Charlie's character (with the everlasting gobstopper).  As Tim Burton was following the book, this is reflected in the movie.  It looks like Dahl turned the story from an interesting distraction for children into a Hollywood movie.  Tim Burton has successfully translated an interesting distraction into a movie and that is all.

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He didn't Hollyscrew it? Ok I gotta admit, now I'm interested.

[Rozzlyn]

Yep its fucking horrible .... it lacked any orginality what so ever ... the OCASSIONALL one liner was funny and thats about it ... If you havent wasted your money to go see it ... I dont recomend that you do .... It was Johnny Depps worse role to date ... horrilbe ......:shakes head:  not only that but I really disapointed in Tim Burton .... he must have deep daddy issues ... I just cant believe how bad it really was ...I meant I went with VERY low expectation and well it didnt even rise to thosse .... Just littel things that Burton didnt need to change such as the citys and states that the children where from ... to BIG THINGS THAT BURTON REALLY DIDNT NEED TO CHANGE.  This movie really wanted to make me throw up all over Jarod who just happend to be sitting next to me .... it was awfull ....

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Did you ever read the book?

All it said in the book was that Child came from "a great town" -- the only character who has his location pinpointed as someplace less-than-vague is Agustus Gloop, who's just generalised as being from "a small town in Germany." Obviously Roald Dahl had some real deep German issues.

[JaneDead]

i never read the book, have yet to see the second movie but from the first movie: i really hated the whole "charlie" thing. it bored me to death. whenever i watch that movie again, i always skip the beginning.

so the whole charlie thing is NOT in the second movie? is that what people are saying here?

[Rozzlyn]

After reading the book, I can see what Tim Burton was trying to do.  He actually followed it pretty closely.  I can also see why Roald Dahl made the changes he did for the 1971 movie -- the book wasn't all that compelling.  The changes made (from the book) to the first movie were there to make us feel for Charlie and his family.  The book doesn't really "test" Charlie's character (with the everlasting gobstopper).  As Tim Burton was following the book, this is reflected in the movie.  It looks like Dahl turned the story from an interesting distraction for children into a Hollywood movie.  Tim Burton has successfully translated an interesting distraction into a movie and that is all.

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OH MY FUCKING GAWD!!!

Dahl had NOTHING to do with the 1971 film!

...from IMDb

Many of the words that come out of Willy Wonka's mouth were literary quotations. This was not in the original script that Roald Dahl wrote. All of the numerous literary references were added for one reason or another by David Seltzer when he re-wrote the screenplay.

The song Wonka sings on the boat ride ("There's no earthly way of knowing... ") are the only song lyrics taken directly from Roald Dahl's book. All other songs were written specifically for the film.

Roald Dahl was reportedly so angry with the treatment of his book (mainly stemming from the massive rewrite by David Seltzer) that he refused permission for the book's sequel, Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator, to be filmed. Seltzer had an idea for a new sequel, but legal issues meant that it never got off the ground.

It's also amusing that Dahl's Estate endorses the Burton flick, but the 1971 Mel Stuart crap won't get anything more than an eyeroll from his survivors.