memorial The departed :(

[Simon Bar Sinister]

This just got posted on fb:

 

Edited December 17, 2024 by Simon Bar Sinister

[Simon Bar Sinister]

[Simon Bar Sinister]

A reminder: if you can make it down there, tonight will be her memorial at Small's.

[Raev]

As I get older, this thread becomes harder to read. 

 

Over 30 years now in the Detroit scene are behind me. So many memories. So many people. So much sorrow.

 

It's been a few years now, but Mike should be on here. https://www.facebook.com/Lic.Mike

 

I believe he was on here, but I just can't remember what his name was anymore on the board. I believe it was cancer.

 

Billy from the old Garden City Park crew. I used to be friends with him and Lauren. We grew apart after their kid was born. I hadn't talked to them in years by the time Billy died. Muscles called me and told me about it, which was fucking huge. Muscles and I weren't friends at that time. There was tension between us. We had a good talk with that call, and he's grown to be someone I love dearly.

 

What of all of the ones we didn't know? The ones who never found a way to connect to the greater community at large? I'd like to remember them, too. A shrine to the unknown goth.

Edited August 18, 2025 by Raev

[Scary Guy]

10 hours ago, Raev said:

As I get older, this thread becomes harder to read. 

 

Over 30 years now in the Detroit scene are behind me. So many memories. So many people. So much sorrow.

 

It's been a few years now, but Mike should be on here. https://www.facebook.com/Lic.Mike

 

I believe he was on here, but I just can't remember what his name was anymore on the board. I believe it was cancer.

 

Billy from the old Garden City Park crew. I used to be friends with him and Lauren. We grew apart after their kid was born. I hadn't talked to them in years by the time Billy died. Muscles called me and told me about it, which was fucking huge. Muscles and I weren't friends at that time. There was tension between us. We had a good talk with that call, and he's grown to be someone I love dearly.

 

What of all of the ones we didn't know? The ones who never found a way to connect to the greater community at large? I'd like to remember them, too. A shrine to the unknown goth.

 

I don't have access to FB so I can't see anything (it's intentionally blocked in my /etc/host file.) As said if I'm missing anyone please let me know.  I like to have as much data as possible, but even just a name and (sometime around $year) is fine so I can stick them in the list which I do chronologically.  Also as stated I hate this goddamn list and miss many on it dearly (some admittedly more than others but they were all a part of the scene.)

The unknown goth is always assumed, and they are missed too.  The user and birthday lists on this forum too, no idea where the majority went.  Many left for Facebook or other communities and lost interest I'm sure.  Their loss really, I'm just happy it's back up.

I guess there's some sort of new forum?  IDK it doesn't work for me and all I see is a blank page and a /lander/ sub directory.  Nothing lasts forever, but I'd much prefer it if it lasted longer than I do.  In any case now is a good time to do another list backup.

[Raev]

Licentious, aka Mike McPherson. Died February 2017 at age 44.

 

Freep article

Edited August 19, 2025 by Raev

[Scary Guy]

21 hours ago, Raev said:

Licentious, aka Mike McPherson. Died February 2017 at age 44.

 

Freep article

He was already in there, but The Detroit Free Press did nuke his obituary (I'm getting a 403 error, but since I just saw you posted the same link it may just be me), so I've updated the link to his entry on findagrave.com and added some info that was missing.  I even attended his memorial at Tangent and I know @Xaina was hit especially hard.  I hope she's doing well, haven't heard from her in years.

[Soulrev]

Oh my. Seems like every time I turn around somebody else is gone. I, for one, cannot believe I ever made it past 40, myself. 
 

I just read about @Troy Spiral. So sad that I missed this - and yet, I could tell he was gone as soon as I came back here and started looking around a little, yesterday. Like I could just feel it.

 

I'll never forget the first time I met Troy. He was someone who went out of his way to make newcomers feel welcome. He was larger than life. He will be dearly missed.

 

This forum changed my life in so many ways, some good, some bad, but moreso for the good. I owe everything to Troy for starting this community and I'm really glad to see some familiar (though a bit older) faces have popped in here in recent years to also express their condolences and grieve for the loss of a great man.

 

I truly believe DGN and this community as a whole are a large part of making me the person I am, today. This place got me through some of the lowest, deepest, darkest parts of my life, and I know I would not be here today, if it weren't for people like Troy.

 

I'm sorry for not coming around more in recent years. I think of you all often, but life gets busy and next thing ya know, 10 years have gone by. It's crazy how short life really is.

 

I mean that. I love and miss each and every one of you and this forum saved my life in more ways and more times than I can count. I would not be the happy, (somewhat) balanced person I am today without it. (I mean really in 2025 who IS balanced 🤣)

 

Jokes aside - thank you all for being here, thank you @TronRP for keeping this place going, and anybody else who helps/helped keep this place alive!

 

If any of you ever come out this way (Southern Colorado) - hit me up! I have 80 acres and empty couches! DGN'ers *always* welcome! 🤠👍

[TronRP]

11 hours ago, Soulrev said:

Oh my. Seems like every time I turn around somebody else is gone. I, for one, cannot believe I ever made it past 40, myself. 
 

I just read about @Troy Spiral. So sad that I missed this - and yet, I could tell he was gone as soon as I came back here and started looking around a little, yesterday. Like I could just feel it.

 

I'll never forget the first time I met Troy. He was someone who went out of his way to make newcomers feel welcome. He was larger than life. He will be dearly missed.

 

This forum changed my life in so many ways, some good, some bad, but moreso for the good. I owe everything to Troy for starting this community and I'm really glad to see some familiar (though a bit older) faces have popped in here in recent years to also express their condolences and grieve for the loss of a great man.

 

I truly believe DGN and this community as a whole are a large part of making me the person I am, today. This place got me through some of the lowest, deepest, darkest parts of my life, and I know I would not be here today, if it weren't for people like Troy.

 

I'm sorry for not coming around more in recent years. I think of you all often, but life gets busy and next thing ya know, 10 years have gone by. It's crazy how short life really is.

 

I mean that. I love and miss each and every one of you and this forum saved my life in more ways and more times than I can count. I would not be the happy, (somewhat) balanced person I am today without it. (I mean really in 2025 who IS balanced 🤣)

 

Jokes aside - thank you all for being here, thank you @TronRP for keeping this place going, and anybody else who helps/helped keep this place alive!

 

If any of you ever come out this way (Southern Colorado) - hit me up! I have 80 acres and empty couches! DGN'ers *always* welcome! 🤠👍

~~~~~

I definitely feel you on this.  If I hadn't been so annoying with badgering Troy if I could help with the behind the scenes literally a decade ago, there is no telling what this current future would've looked like.

 

Time is forcing things to bring about a change, which can't be helped, but I will try to preserve what I can of his brainchild.

 

AND...If I should ever make it out your way, trust me, I'll be bringing a boatload of White Castles.

😆

[Scary Guy]

Went ahead and actually added City Club to the list.  It's been there for over 40 years now and that deserves recognition, and it's quite possible this place wouldn't even have existed without that.

[Soulrev]

On 12/1/2025 at 8:43 PM, Scary Guy said:

Went ahead and actually added City Club to the list.  It's been there for over 40 years now and that deserves recognition, and it's quite possible this place wouldn't even have existed without that.

 

What's CC even like these days? I think last I heard they had moved away from the Goth scene completely and were playing hiphop and dubstep type stuff. 
 

I don't even remember exactly when the last time I was there but I am pretty sure it was a NYE maybe around 2010-2012 and at that point the scene had already diminished quite a bit. 

 

As probably the only person to regularly drive 243 miles one way, just to go to CC on a Saturday night, I will say, I miss those days. 
 

I used to stay up all night Friday night playing video games and go to bed around 8 am on Saturday so I could wake up by 4 o'clock central time and drive to Detroit and be there by 10pm eastern time.

 

I got drunk AF until last call, stayed until the ugly lights came on, and then sobered up with Crank and Rambo at Lucy & Ethel's and drove 243 miles back home to go to bed 🤣🤷 

 

Even stayed at Scary Guy's house a few times and that was even cooler!

 

Man I miss those days. I miss Detroit in general, too. Very unique city out of all the major cities I've been to. Probably some of the most welcoming, hospitable people I've ever met in one city, as well.

 

I'll never forget one of the Halloween parties my friend and I went to after CC for some fun and absinthe in the basement, and we were too tired/trashed to make the drive back home so we slept in my car on the street. One of the neighbors actually came out and offered to make us coffee and breakfast. Dude didn't know us from Adam - just knew we were there from the previous night's party. Cool ass people, man.

 

Edit to add - also, now that I think about it, when people used to ask me why I drove so far every weekend just to go to a club, I didn't have a good answer. But looking back, there really was not a place even on par with Detroit (area) as far as a Goth scene goes, in 800 miles in any direction. Chicago was literally a stone's throw away but they did not have any goth clubs worth visiting. Nothing even close.

 

Back then, the only other places I knew of that had a comparable goth scene were Miami and NYC.

Edited December 7, 2025 by Soulrev