Musicians...Nudists....pagans.....heathens....

[Homicidalheathen]

Write me if interested. Clothing Optional family friendly......pond....outhouses...outdoor shower, stage...bon-fires.....homemade wine heh hehe. Oh BYOB and all. 10 a day or 25 weekend. Don't forget the sunscreen and bug spray.

[ZhukovCodeslinger]

Wow.... thats a lot of fun stuff.... the only things not on the list are: Fireworks, Horses+ Bunnies (girls love those), Monster Trucks, and Orgies (guys love those)

Sounds like you are going to have fun :grin

[the eternal]

I dont think I can go, but Id sooo love to. What a great way to get to know such a lovely woman.

Oh, wait. You all already know her <humpf>

[Medea]

She is a lovely, and wonderful woman.

I'm interesting, HH, what weekend is this? Where is it, etc?

[Homicidalheathen]

This weekend and It is in Emmett......Imlay City Rd. Not as far N as Port Huron....

She is a lovely, and wonderful woman.

I'm interesting, HH, what weekend is this?  Where is it, etc?

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[Medea]

Ah, therein lies the rub. This is my sister's last weekend in MI.

*sniffle*

So I'll be going to ren fest, and then to CC on Saturday. As well as having Friday plans.

[Homicidalheathen]

This is exciting....more people are coming.....hurray.

[float]

She is a lovely, and wonderful woman.

I'm interesting, HH, what weekend is this?  Where is it, etc?

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you ARE interesting

[slingerlandstyx]

Good (97%) chance I'll be going. THIS IS GONNA BE F***IN' AWESOME!

[Scary Guy]

Just posting to mention that clothing optional and family friendly don't go in the same sentance unless you're from or in parts of Africa.

[Homicidalheathen]

Sorry to hear your so uptight about nudity Scary...it doesn't equal sex ya know.

[Medea]

you ARE interesting

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:blushing Aw thanks...

You turned my typo into a good thing.

And Scary, HH is right. Just because there is a nekkid penis or a vagina in the vicinity does not mean that kids can't be there. I personally think that we really shouldn't raise kids to be so scared of the naked human form.

[Scary Guy]

Never said I personally was uptight (ok well maybe since I sleep fully clothed). I'm just saying it doesn't equal a family event.

Personally there are people in the world who I never ever want to see naked, or in spandex, or at all for that matter.

But to each their own I guess.

[Homicidalheathen]

OMG it was awesome. I am so staying the full 4 days next year. Got painted and so many people took pics of me nakey...ha....who knows who has me in their camera now...I don't care :innocent

I was dancing around the fire and when I came out there was this lady and we just started making out.....

Yup I had a great time. :grin

Anytime I can openly act like a lesbo is a good night.

Running around naked in the woods getting plastered and stoned is always good too.

So many hotties this year......wow.

[DisturbedMania]

It was much fun, but I got a runny nose from swimming in the very chilly at night pond. Dancing naked around a fire is good fun. I would definitely say it makes for a good and quite supportive family event. Everyone was very friendly.

[Homicidalheathen]

We are paying the full 50 each and staying the 4 days next year. This is my favoret event in MI besides FUSE.

It was much fun, but I got a runny nose from swimming in the very chilly at night pond.  Dancing naked around a fire is good fun.  I would definitely say it makes for a good and quite supportive family event.  Everyone was very friendly.

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[slingerlandstyx]

OMG it was awesome.  I am so staying the full 4 days next year.  Got painted and so many people took pics of me nakey...ha....who knows who has me in their camera now...I don't care :innocent

I was dancing around the fire and when I came out there was this lady and we just started making out.....

Yup I had a great time. :grin

Anytime I can openly act like a lesbo is a good night.

Running around naked in the woods getting plastered and stoned is always good too.

So many hotties this year......wow.

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Like I said. 'Twas everything I thought it would be and more. :woot:

[pomba gira]

sounds marvelous... I wanta go next year!

& HH you can come up to Lansing & act like a lesbo w/me anytime :devil ... we can take the party boat out cruisin' down the wilder part ov the river thru Eaton County

[the eternal]

sounds marvelous... I wanta go next year!

& HH you can come up to Lansing & act like a lesbo w/me anytime  :devil ... we can take the party boat out cruisin' down the wilder part ov the river thru Eaton County

If we're lucky enough to get HH up to Lansing, I may have a fight with you Pomba, as I'll be doing my best to remind her of her straight side :devil

But yeah, hopefully next year.

Here's my .02 about the whole "family-friendly" debate.

I love being naked.

It's not a sexual thing.

(In fact, FYI, they did a study once of nudists and found they didn't have sex any more than regularly clothed people)

And I honestly think if more people were of a naturist mindset, our children would be more comfortable with their bodies.

That said I would never EVER recommend a child going to a nudist campground,

because I'd be fearful of their safety.

Why?

Think about it.

Why do boy scout leaders so often get in trouble?

Because so many of them chose to be leaders knowing the opportunities they would have to be alone with young boys.

I've done a bit of research on behavioral patterns in pedophiles.

They select occupations and activities where there'll be a good chance to be in contact with youngsters.

It's just one step better that the kids are already nude.

In recent years, one of the biggest problems at these camps have been with the camp photographers.

Many of them have used this special position to get kids alone and molest them.

OR

Take photos and post them in child porn areas.

A lot of them got convicted, but some cases got brushed under the rug

by the camps themselves

like with the Catholic priest scandal.

Hell, I used to get a totally legit catalog of nudist clothing (of all things) and videos

and books and whatnot.

I always found it interesting that there would be video tapes for sale for like $40/$50 and it was an hour-long tape of some high school birthday party.

And I thought to myself,

I fucking hated my 3 yr-old birthday on tape.

Why would ANYONE give a shit about some 15 yr-old blowing out candles....

Ohhhh,

yeah that would make sense.

(There's 2 markets:

One for the actual nudists and one for the people who just like seeing naked kids)

(One website, if you want to dig deeper into this is http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/NudistHallofShame/index.html)

That's why I took my name off the mailing list for the AANR (Amer. Assoc. for Nude Recreation-if I rem.)

So, why would I go to this nude drumming thing next year?

Because 9 times out of 10, people are there to have a good time being naked, and I find it personally very freeing.

But I would never bring a child there because I don't want that 10th person even thinking about a child.

I come from a household with sexual abuse and I am not going to tell you what I would do to someone if I saw that taking place

Having a place to get naked with friends is fantastic

But I strongly prefer adults-only nudist camps.

And I would never belong to a family-friendly camp, because there's no way of safeguarding 100% against that element.

Don't laugh, but I like doing that stupid hypothetical--

"In a perfect world...."

(ex. In a perfect world, everyone would be bisexual and horny... :grin )

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................Ok, I'm back.

Where was I again????

Oh yes,

"In a perfect world, children could go to these things and not have to worry about a few creepy guys leering at them or taking advantage of them

or raping them"

But we're not in a perfect world, and this is the kind of shit that keeps me up at night.

I honestly wish I could castrate every pedophile in the country....but I can't

I CAN try and keep every parent I know from risking harm by bringing their kids there.

I sooo wish it wasn't the case, because we are majorly fucked up about body image in this country,

and a nudist lifestyle at its most pure combats thats better than anything I can think of.

Unfortunately, not all of us are that pure.

Parents, and aunts and uncles and cousins who bring kids to these things have VERY good reason to do so.

It's a wonderful lesson to learn...

that EVERY body is beautiful.

I just wish everyone was as cool as you guys.

(Please don't flame me for saying these things. It comes from a very painful place I'd rather not elaborate on this thread)

Oh well <sigh> :tear

For anyone foolish enough to still be reading my ravings at this point, I want to leave you all with this:

an excerpt from a wicked cool play by Eve Ensler==The Good Body

(I love Eve Ensler. Most of you probably know her other big play The Vagina Monologues.

I'm a big fan of that one,

especially because,

the only time a vagina ever conversed with me was-

a pussy fart.

And I'll be honest, after giving said vagina a great deal of attention with tongue and finger,

I just wasn't quite sure how to respond.

Anyway, Eve is speaking with Leah, a seventy-four year old African Masai woman.

Leah: Do I like my body? Do I like my body?

My body. My body.

I love my body.

God made this body. God gave me this body.

My body. My body.

Oh goodness, I love my body.

My fingers, look at my fingers. I love my fingernails, little crescent moons.

My hands, my hands, the way they flutter in the air and fall, they lead right up to

my arms,

so strong they carry things along.

I love my arms and my legs,

my legs are long, so long,

Masai people, we are tall, I get there fast, my legs can wrap around a man and hold him there.

My breasts . . . My breasts, well look at them, they're mine,

my breasts

still round and full and fine.

Eve: Leah, wait, I dont know how to do this. I want to feel like you. I want to love my body and stop hating my stomach.

Leah: Whats wrong with it?

Eve: Eve: Its round. It used to be flat.

Leah: Its your stomach. Its meant to be seen.

Eve,

look at that tree? Do you see that tree?

Now look at that tree. (Points to another tree)

Do you like that tree? Do you hate that tree cause it doesnt look like that tree?

Do you say

that tree isnt pretty cause it doesnt look like that tree?

Were all trees.

Youre a tree. Im a tree.

Youve got to love your body, Eve. Youve got to love your tree.

Love your tree.

Love my tree.

Excerpted from The Good Body by Eve Ensler.

[Medea]

Wow, Eternal, that was really beautiful....

Now... you seriously have to drag your ass down to the club so I can meet you!

[Homicidalheathen]

Ditto, damnit! Where were you last night???

Wow, Eternal, that was really beautiful....

Now... you seriously have to drag your ass down to the club so I can meet you!

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[the eternal]

:blushing :blushing :blushing

Doing what I always do. Thinking of you two and what'll happen when we meet

My personal life's a little complicated. Maybe I'll post about it sometime. (Hell knows, I've posted about everything else. )

That said, I was petrified to post this. I was sure this would touch off another shouting match

You guys are the best. When I finally get down to CC ( that's right I havent been, my friend Pomba pointed me to this dark cavern of lost souls)

I will skywrite my impending appearance.

(Then I'll ask you guys for police protection from BS9 and his gf =) )