Stupid Win Xp Pro

[Lilith]

So since windows Xp came out, actually befor it even came out we had a boot legg copy, that we have used happily for years. Recently Lestat Grand Parnets decicded to contribute to my childrens education and set each of them up with there own computer.

So now i have three newer computers and one brand new spankin cd of xp pro and a legal key and i can only install the damn thing on one freaking computer. Does any one know how to go about getting this to load on more then one Comp other then dealign with micro soft and paying the stupid extra license fees? Which i have to tell you is completle bull shit, the damn thing cost more to license then it did to get the parts we needed to get these running.

We still have our boot legg copy, which is fine and great for our comps but because Grandma paid for the kids we have to do everything all legal like, which we were trying to do but now she is blowing a gasket cause this stupid cd is only good for one comp and now she expects us to pay for the other fees, cause the cash she had is gone etcc..... just so much drama that if i can find a way to get the bought cd put into another computer and get it to work i dont care how, i will keep secrets as to how and she probally wont know the diffrnece there is just so much drama over this now that honestly if it were not for my kids i would have told the woman to take the $ and shove it up her ass

I need ideas how to make this all look like it may be legal, still have this new cd to insert in the comp and work so she can visiably see that it tis the new "legal" copy and be freakin happy.

thank you in advance

lilith

[The_Dark]

Not going to happen anytime soon. Microsoft is clamping down on the boot legging. The new Validation Tool is just another step they have taken...

I think your going to have to spring for 2 more copys of XP. I would get XP Home if I were you.. way lower cost. I doubt that half the people that have XP Pro even know what the differance is between them let alone use one of them.

[Daevion]

Not going to happen anytime soon. Microsoft is clamping down on the boot legging. The new Validation Tool is just another step they have taken...

I think your going to have to spring for 2 more copys of XP. I would get XP Home if I were you.. way lower cost. I doubt that half the people that have XP Pro even know what the differance is between them let alone use one of them.

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yeah, apparently the "tool" has figured out a way to prevent me from doing a windows update...those bastards

[Lilith]

Not going to happen anytime soon. Microsoft is clamping down on the boot legging. The new Validation Tool is just another step they have taken...

I think your going to have to spring for 2 more copys of XP. I would get XP Home if I were you.. way lower cost. I doubt that half the people that have XP Pro even know what the differance is between them let alone use one of them.

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We got the xp pro addition cause way back when it was able to be loaded on extra pc's with out the extra registrations and fees like home has......... so we just assumed it was still the same way thats why we actually got this version but apprantly from reading things online they have changed it to the way home is got to buy the extra license.

I still have my boot legg code do any of you think if we put the new cd in we could use the boot legg code and it would work? The basic point i am at is that i just have to be able to insert the new cd in get this woman to believe that it is all legal like, once we have the dam nthings set up and she is more or less out of the picture while we work on them i could really care less if we installed the boot legg copy on the kids machine or not. I think it is obsurd to make people pay another $135 or more cause they have more then one comp in there home.

Really it feels like a good way to keep the poor from advancing and for the ridh ole billy gates to get more $$$$$.

Does any one know where i might be able to get my hands on Win Xp coroprate edition, i was told this was the only version now that i can load on more then one pc and have it work, if that is true and if i could get a corp copy and sell this stupid one i have that might do the trick and solve all or most of this problem.

I just need this woman to stop being so damn stubborn, and stop being suspicious that we put the illegal copy on the kids comp. I know being legal is a good thing and all but wehn you try to do things the right way and you end up getting screwed and you just dont have the extra $200 - $300 to spend............ not to mention i got three kids so extreamly excited they are about to burst...... why cant i just load up my oot legg copy and say Bill got his $ with the real copy i bought that i can only use on one comp.

any ideas????

lilith

[Onyx]

Does it absolutely have to be xp? Perhaps you could load 98 on one or two.

[Lilith]

Does it absolutely have to be xp?  Perhaps you could load 98 on one or two.

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i would have thought the same, as we do have a legal copy of 98 and of 2000 but no its not the latest and greatest, trust me i would rather load them up with those right now just so they can play and be leagal then when ever they screw them up and Lestat has to relaod windows he would just relaod our old boot legg copy of XP no hassle no questions etc... cause we wont have a "baby sitter" and the woman probally will not be here much after this is done, it took her 8 years to finally set one foot in our home. I couldnt imagine why she ouwld now all of sudden decided its time to visit on a regular basis.

[The_Dark]

Just a couple FYIs...

It's never been legal to put Windows XP on more than one computer.. except for the Corperate version. Even then, to be legal... you had to have at least 1000 computers to get a copy of the Corperate version. Those older Corperate Lic. that have been being used since before XP even officially came out.. yeah.. dont expect them to work much longer if they do now.

Lilith.. you can get OEM copys of XP Home for about $80-90 at trade shows... or you can get the Upgrade version at Wallyworld for about $99. The upgrade is legal if you have an earlyer version of windows.. such as 98 or 2000. if you go with the upgrade I can walk you through tricking the system into letting you install XP without having to install 98 or 2000 first.

Daevion - Turn on automatic Updates. Microsoft is still allowing hacked copys to downlaod critical updates.. just not the optional updates or drivers.

[Lilith]

Just a couple FYIs...

It's never been legal to put Windows XP on more than one computer.. except for the Corperate version. Even then, to be legal... you had to have at least 1000 computers to get a copy of the Corperate version. Those older Corperate Lic. that have been being used since before XP even officially came out.. yeah.. dont expect them to work much longer if they do now.

Lilith.. you can get OEM copys of XP Home for about $80-90 at trade shows... or you can get the Upgrade version at Wallyworld for about $99. The upgrade is legal if you have an earlyer version of windows.. such as 98 or 2000. if you go with the upgrade I can walk you through tricking the system into letting you install XP without having to install 98 or 2000 first.

Daevion - Turn on automatic Updates. Microsoft is still allowing hacked copys to downlaod critical updates.. just not the optional updates or drivers.

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Do you have to have a new upgrade for each comp or can you use the up grade on more then one?

i was hoping casue i know allot of you in dgn land are super duper duper smart with comps. that there might be a way. Lestat tried to tell me that this morning, that no matter what to make grandma happy we were going to have to spend $$$$$ i though he was just being grumpy cause he was up untill 2 am reading and researching hte hll out of this and he had to get up early for work this morning.

Do you think it might be worth checking out the copies they have for sale on ebay, i saw some used copis and some that say they are new , bidding is starting pretty cheap on some of these,is there any rules for used copies, if i buy a copie and the key has been used wont i be in the same boat as now or is there some magical way to make the key usuable again????? Or is this just one of those things that they have you by the balls no matter what way you turn and in the end this cd and code has no resale value what so ever.

[Lilith]

i just wanted to add i have no problem with doing this the legal way, actually lestat and i had been kinda excited about having a legal copy and knowing if the cd itself got scratched it would be like $10 and micosoft would send a new one, took some worry off how precious the copy we did have was. Now i am just dissapointed which would all it would be on my end and we would just amek due with what we have.

[Daevion]

Just a couple FYIs...

It's never been legal to put Windows XP on more than one computer.. except for the Corperate version. Even then, to be legal... you had to have at least 1000 computers to get a copy of the Corperate version. Those older Corperate Lic. that have been being used since before XP even officially came out.. yeah.. dont expect them to work much longer if they do now.

Lilith.. you can get OEM copys of XP Home for about $80-90 at trade shows... or you can get the Upgrade version at Wallyworld for about $99. The upgrade is legal if you have an earlyer version of windows.. such as 98 or 2000. if you go with the upgrade I can walk you through tricking the system into letting you install XP without having to install 98 or 2000 first.

Daevion - Turn on automatic Updates. Microsoft is still allowing hacked copys to downlaod critical updates.. just not the optional updates or drivers.

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Not that I really need to do this atm, but how do you trick the system without installing a previous version?

I think I found something http://www.windowsreinstall.com/install/tips/winxp/XPug.htm

..but what if you don't have an old copy of win9x/me laying around, is there still a way to trick xp?

[The_Dark]

Don't trust a copy from Ebay.. you really have no way of knowing till it's toolate....

as for the tricking... yes, you need some copy of windows to get the upgrade to install... win98, win98SE, winME or Win2k work. and um.. I may be able to hook someone up for those...

[Lilith]

Don't trust a copy from Ebay.. you really have no way of knowing till it's toolate....

as for the tricking... yes, you need some copy of windows to get the upgrade to install... win98, win98SE, winME or Win2k work. and um.. I may be able to hook someone up for those...

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[Draco1958]

Stay away from XP home, it's way too flaky and yes while I am sure there are a lot of people using it just fine, way too many techs told me to avoid it like the pague. I'm using Win98SE still but eventually plan on going to XP pro. All XP home is is a stripped down version of XP Pro without it being adjusted for what was removed. My roomie is friends with an MS tech. Will see what he can offer for advice.

[Scary Guy]

load and learn freebsd.org (it's free) and let her bitch all she wants.

[Daevion]

Stay away from XP home, it's way too flaky and yes while I am sure there are a lot of people using it just fine, way too many techs told me to avoid it like the pague.  I'm using Win98SE still but eventually plan on going to XP pro.  All XP home is is a stripped down version of XP Pro without it being adjusted for what was removed.  My roomie is friends with an MS tech.  Will see what he can offer for advice.

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sort of what I did, went from 98se to xp pro, only installed ME once so as to upgrade to xp

[The_Dark]

um...

there are exactly 6 things different in XP Pro than XP Home. They are...

Internet Information Services: Pro can be a web server

Remote Desktop: It has PCAnywhere like features built in

Policy Based Desktop Mangement: Allows you to control what other users of you pc are allowed to do.

User level Access Control: Allows you to control what files other users of the same pc can access.

User State Migration: Tools to move a user to a different computer.

IEEE 802.1x security protocol: This is actually added to XP Home with SP2

Now really... How many of you need that stuff at home?

[Daevion]

yep..the average user isn't going to need any of those "features" so yeah, if your going to actually pay for windows , than xp home is fine.

I just happend to find a copy of xp pro laying around , so thats why I installed it.

[Reaper]

um...

there are exactly 6 things different in XP Pro than XP Home. They are...

Internet Information Services: Pro can be a web server

Remote Desktop: It has PCAnywhere like features built in

Policy Based Desktop Mangement: Allows you to control what other users of you pc are allowed to do.

User level Access Control: Allows you to control what files other users of the same pc can access.

User State Migration: Tools to move a user to a different computer.

IEEE 802.1x security protocol: This is actually added to XP Home with SP2

Now really... How many of you need that stuff at home?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

And don't forget to partition your harddrive(s) with either OS! It makes it easier to keep people out of the part of your harddrive where you install all components so no one can accidentally install spyware and viruses

Also, I will ask a buddy of mine who does all that stuff with computers. He fixes them, upgrades them, gets rid of spyware and such. He helped install one of his copies of WinXP Pro on this computer. Not sure how he did it or if he ran into any problems but I can update my windows online without a problem. And it IS from the same CD he installed onto his.

[Onyx]

And don't forget to partition your harddrive(s) with either OS!  It makes it easier to keep people out of the part of your harddrive where you install all components so no one can accidentally install spyware and viruses 

So you make a partition just for the operating system, install just that in there and then don't store anything else in that part of the drive? Then keep files and documents and photos and such in the other partition?

(learning things here bit by bit )

[The_Dark]

Yep, best way to go.

[Reaper]

Well, that is why you download the FREE AVG antivirus program, the Microsoft FREE anti-spyware program, and a good firewall program

At least with that protection you can keep it from spreading from one part of the HD to the next. It will be contained.

[Reaper]

So you make a partition just for the operating system, install just that in there and then don't store anything else in that part of the drive? Then keep files and documents and photos and such in the other partition?

(learning things here bit by bit )

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yeah, I put all my installations into the typical C drive, and I have the partitiioned D drive for photos, music, website stuff. Things that you really don't install.

THe main point that I suggested a partition was for security though. You can set a password so no one can access your main files. See, anything you install onto your C drive, cannot be erased when you are on your D, partitioned drive, UNLESS, you installed it or saved it from/to the partitioned drive.

Easy right?

[The_Dark]

You can have more than 24 drive leters with MS products... you just have to change setting. The limitation actually comes from the fact the the OS doesn;t use drive letters, only the GUI does. A and B are reserved for floppy/removable drives, which gives you 26 drive letters.. then you change your LastDrive setting from Z to ZZ, now you can have 52 drive letters...

[Scary Guy]

52? I mean yeah as many as the machine can handle... But in theory AA, AB, AC, AD, ~~, ZW, ZX, ZY, ZZ. That would be WAY more than 52 heh.