goth music from UNGOTH artists

[the eternal]

So, I'm listening to Paint It Black from the Rolling Stones and I'm thinking this

is like the gothest thing Ive ever heard (not really but go with me on this)

There is some really dark music out there, many with the themes you'd here in goth music, but by mainstream artists.

What are the gothiest tunes you know from ungothy artists?????

[the eternal]

Rolling Stones-Paint It Black

Violent Femmes- Nothing Worth Living For

Frank Sinatra- ANYTHING off Only the Lonely (it's maybe the most depressing pop album ever recorded- he called them his "suicide songs")

Pearl Jam-Black

[The_Dark]

Violent Femmes - Country Death Song

Pink Floyd - The Final Cut

[phee]

Neat Thread!!!

All most all of Pink Floyd's stuff has struck me as Gothy, even though they are not considered as such.

[The_Dark]

A good portion of the middle era stuff is... (middle era is Darkside - The Final Cut for those that dont know) Roger Waters is a damn depressing man.

[phee]

A good portion of the middle era stuff is... (middle era is Darkside - The Final Cut for those that dont know) Roger Waters is a damn depressing man.

Yeah... some of his solo stuff as well, like "Amused to Death" seems gloomy as hell.

[The_Dark]

All three of his solo albums fully explore the pain of being human.

The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking delves into a man being insecure about his marrige and life.

Radio K.A.O.S. explores self sacrafice for family and self absorbtion...

Amused to Death is about greed and beign self centered.

God I love that man's mind.

[phee]

Yeah.... I don't know if he is so fond of his own mind though

[DarkVampire]

"Paint it Black" The Rolling Stones

"The End" The Doors

[Homicidalheathen]

Phil Collins in Genesis: In the air tonight.

[The_Dark]

OMG! I just watched The Black Hole last night!!!!!

[phee]

OMG! I just watched The Black Hole last night!!!!!

Sweet!!!!

[TearSandrille]

The Final Cut album is my favorite Pink Floyd album ever. With The Final Cut being my favorite song, and it is damn depressing. When he did the in the flesh tour he played Southampton Dock, but didn't go into The Final Cut. I was thoroughly disappointed.

[EatAjaxAndDie]

Sublime- Poolshark a very dark and depressing song. go for the acoustic version for the full effect. When Bradley says "One day I'm gonna lose the war" it seriously made mw and my friend cry. Mind you he was drunk, and I was too...but damn...thats harsh.

Candlebox- Far Behind rather sad and gloomy song about his friends suicide. And thats a grunge classic.

I could go on forever. And I mean it. This is why I limit my music conversations to actual human conversation instead of my dumbass typing all day :laughing

[unchaste]

Patsy Cline

"Walkin' After Midnight"

&

"Crazy"

[Scary Guy]

I'd like to point out that under my definition of goth (which is widely accepted) that everything has the potential to be goth or ungoth.

[phee]

I'd like to point out that under my definition of goth (which is widely accepted) that everything has the potential to be goth or ungoth.

Kinda like "industrial"?

[the eternal]

So, I've now come out of the closet as a big Floyd fan.

I posted my personal motto as part of my signature

It's from Time off Dark Side of the Moon

[Scary Guy]

Kinda like "industrial"?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Not even close

Don't get me started

Too late

True industrial music to me involves power tools. The modern accepted definition of "industrial music" an instrument has to be distorted (usually guitar, synth, voice, or a combination thereof).

There is a difference between true gothic music, and gothic oriented music too. In that way I guess they're similar, but not in the way you thought.

[phee]

:cheerful

[Fierce Critter]

"Paint it Black" is a favorite of mine, and I will agree with it's gothliness.

Others on my list:

A few songs by Concrete Blonde

Something in the Way, Heart Shaped Box - Nirvana

A song or two from Kate Bush (Notably a good part of the "Hounds of Love" album)

Chris Isaak - Wicked Game

The Smiths - How Soon is Now

Crowded House – Into Temptation

Peter Gabriel – Mercy Street

Shakespeare's Sister - Stay With me

Split Enz - One Step Ahead, I Got You

Sting - Moon over Bourbon Street, Fragile,

Tears for Fears - Change, Pale Shelter

Some Enya

Tom Waites - a song or two

Soundgarden - Fell on Black Days, Black Hole Sun

Lots from Nick Drake

Cheap Trick - The Flame

...o.k. I'm kidding on that last one...

[DarkVampire]

Blue Oyster Cult's "Don't Fear the Reaper"

[the eternal]

FC-thank g-d you were kidding on the Flame.

It was forced upon them to generate a hit. They refused to play it in concert.

Ah yes, Nick Drake. I didnt know where to start with him.

He sounds like this soft folkster.

Then you hear the lyrics.

Ian Curtis has nothing on that guy.

Except, and heres where he's ungoth,

unlike Curtis,

when I listen to Nick Drake, I just want to give him a hug.

[Fierce Critter]

FC-thank g-d you were kidding on the Flame.

It was forced upon them to generate a hit.  They refused to play it in concert.

Ah yes, Nick Drake.  I didnt know where to start with him.

He sounds like this soft folkster. 

Then you hear the lyrics. 

Ian Curtis has nothing on that guy.

Except, and heres where he's ungoth,

unlike Curtis,

when I listen to Nick Drake, I just want to give him a hug.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

When Rick Neilson was played the demo for "The Flame", he stomped on the tape.

And they do play it in concert. Seen it. They've come to terms with it. It did help propel a 'comeback' of sorts for them.

And if you want to give Nick Drake a hug, you're gonna have to start digging. He died from an overdose, and it's unclear whether he intended it or not.

[the eternal]

When Rick Neilson was played the demo for "The Flame", he stomped on the tape.

And they do play it in concert. Seen it. They've come to terms with it. It did help propel a 'comeback' of sorts for them.

And if you want to give Nick Drake a hug, you're gonna have to start digging. He died from an overdose, and it's unclear whether he intended it or not.

That's why I said refused. I saw them on their lap of luxury tour. It was probably their biggest hit. It went to number 1. But they didnt even write it. After awhile, I think they decided to surrender, surrender but not give themselves away.

Yes, all the great ones do seem to take their own life, dont they?

Anyway, here's one from left field.

Neil Diamond-Love on the Rocks

It's such a hopeless song.