Led Zepplin/Doors

[BillyDeath]

Does anyone listen to Led Zepplin? If so would any of you aree that there some elements of their music that would inspire the Gothic culture, especially Jimmy Page. I think the video of Robert Plants solo music 'Little By Little' was Goth. Did you know that Jimmy Page used to live in one of Aleister Crowley's mansion.

Oh, to come to think about it I think a lot of Doors material inspired the goth culture. Especially Jim Morrison's work of poetry, even thou he was usually referring to the early Native American culture. If he applied his poetry about vampires then I would consider him a Gothic icon.

Oh, there is also a song by the Rolling Stone, '2000 Light Years Apart' off of their album 'Your Satanic Majesties Request', is considered Goth.

[MarsDustDoug]

I dont agree at all.

Zepplin was a direct influence along with Sabbath on the creation of metal. Metal, though it can share the same interests as "goth", bares little resemblance to it. If you called a metal head "goth" inthe 80's he would probably attempt to smash your face in.

The doors were dark but not goth, sure change all his lyrics to be about vampires and Morrison's writngs would be goth... but then again anyones would be considered that if they wrote about vampires.

And that stones album was probably their answer to Sgt Pepper's. if i may say so, one of thier goofiest albums ever made too. Just the Stones trying their hand at psychedelic rock Truely amazed actually that you pulled that one out, very few people even know the damn thing was made, let alone heard anything off it.

If you want to be broad and encompassing, then yes. All of those bands influenced gothic music. But then again you chose some of the most influential bands in the last 100 years. Would be like asking if Beethoven and other classical composers had influence on music.

[BrassFusion]

I wonder what directly influenced goth, then.

*tries to think of a goth pioneer in the same league as black sabbath, zeppelin, or the doors*

*fails*

[torn asunder]

    Oh, there is also a song by the Rolling Stone, '2000 Light Years Apart' off of their album 'Your Satanic Majesties Request', is considered Goth.

actually, it's "2000 light years from home", and the album *was* the stones answer to sgt. peppers. great album, one of my faves...

[MarsDustDoug]

I wonder what directly influenced goth, then.

*tries to think of a goth pioneer in the same league as black sabbath, zeppelin, or the doors*

*fails*

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"goth" was a term used to describe the way a section of post-punk and new wave bands sounded in the late 70's. Now just like my metal situation, not all post-punk/new wave bands/fans were goth, but there was a subgenre.

Joy Division and Siouxsie & the Banshees are given credit for being some of if not the firsts to be called "gothic". Then you have Public Image Ltd and Killing Joke. Neither were really considered to be part of the gothic scene but they both have been lauded as very very influential to gothic, metal, grunge, and nu-metal.

there is what I have learned in my days. Musc is hard when it comes down to this though, because all it will take is someone who doesn't like Siouxsie or Joy Division, and they wont agree at all.

[BrassFusion]

It's so much easier to not care about subgenres. Hell, I question most genres, even. The best music is almost always... Fusion. =)

[MarsDustDoug]

It's so much easier to not care about subgenres. Hell, I question most genres, even. The best music is almost always... Fusion. =)

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hehe i have a terrible disease from working at a record store where I HAVE to put things into a genre or it will irk me.

[Joey Deadcat]

I dont agree at all.

Zepplin was a direct influence along with Sabbath on the creation of metal. Metal, though it can share the same interests as "goth", bares little resemblance to it. If you called a metal head "goth" inthe 80's he would probably attempt to smash your face in.

The doors were dark but not goth, sure change all his lyrics to be about vampires and Morrison's writngs would be goth... but then again anyones would be considered that if they wrote about vampires.

And that stones album was probably their answer to Sgt Pepper's. if i may say so, one of thier goofiest albums ever made too. Just the Stones trying their hand at psychedelic rock Truely amazed actually that you pulled that one out, very few people even know the damn thing was made, let alone heard anything off it.

If you want to be broad and encompassing, then yes. All of those bands influenced gothic music. But then again you chose some of the most influential bands in the last 100 years. Would be like asking if Beethoven and other classical composers had influence on music.

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What Doug said. Some of the later goth bands may have been influenced by those earlier bands but it doesn't make their influences goth.

[DarkVampire]

Both Zep and the Doors have their influences in Blues, the Blues from the early 1900's. Some of Zeps songs are covers from Blue's bands of that era. The Doors have some dark songs but I would not stick any type of goth label on either of those bands.

[Scary Guy]

Blues = dark and sad, somewhat like folk music

rock = close to punk

folk punk = goth

blues rock = goth

EVERYTHING = GOTH