I am ready.

[Homicidalheathen]

For there is no god, all humans suck and everything is doomed in the end.

Fuck it. :fear

[Homicidalheathen]

Pessimism: the OTHER white meat.

[Homicidalheathen]

I am tired of being needed really. Even when I get attention or affection it is not given to me in a unselfish way. My family needs me, its overbearing at times. My friends need me, for validation....or exceptance...or to enhance thier own lives....I wonder if I would not be happier just sitting in my room alone, writing lyrics and playing my drums and reading.

Can humans give without expecting anything in return I wonder....

Just want someone to want to be around me that doesn't need anything from me for a change. :confused

Or nothing. Maybe I will just lay low for a bit.

I suppose I should be happy I am not alone....but for what I get for my efforts it doesn't seem worth it....

I need more 'me' time though for sure. :tear

And someone giving. Unselfishly.

[HipsterDufus]

I am tired of being needed really.  Even when I get attention or affection it is not given to me in a unselfish way.  My family needs me, its overbearing at times.  My friends need me, for validation....or exceptance...or to enhance thier own lives....I wonder if I would not be happier just sitting in my room alone, writing lyrics and playing my drums and reading.

Can humans give without expecting anything in return I wonder....

Just want someone to want to be around me that doesn't need anything from me for a change. :confused

Or nothing.  Maybe I will just lay low for a bit.

I suppose I should be happy I am not alone....but for what I get for my efforts it doesn't seem worth it....

I need more 'me' time though for sure. :tear

And someone giving.  Unselfishly.

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Summer is a really bad time for family crap. Everyone has some family reunion/holiday/backyard BBQ for you to go to. It doesn't sound that bad in theory, but if you have my type of personality, it can be hell to be around all of those extended family members you don't know very well and try to make conversation.

Humanity is quite strange. We are herd/social animals by default (the whole reason that society exists), so we have this need to be around other humans and to try and receive as much assistance from them as possible. Friends and family are just trying to benefit from our presence, but we are doing the same when we're around them. I view myself as being mostly misanthropic, so I pretty much only get along well with other misanthropic people. It can make for interesting relationships.

[Homicidalheathen]

Exactly.

I learned a new word, oooh! And its gothy!

Misanthropy is a hatred or distrust of the human race, or a disposition to dislike and mistrust other people. The word comes from the Greek words μίσος ("hatred") + άνθρωπος ("man, human being"). A misanthrope is a person who hates or distrusts mankind and in most cases their own humanity.

Misanthropy does not necessarily imply an inhumane, antisocial, or sociopathic attitude towards humanity.

[HipsterDufus]

Misanthropy does not necessarily imply an inhumane, antisocial, or sociopathic attitude towards humanity.

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I think in my case, any of those 3 words can be applied to me at given times. Probably moreso than most people. :erm

[BrassFusion]

I think in my case, any of those 3 words can be applied to me at given times.  Probably moreso than most people.  :erm

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Than most people on a goth board?

[HipsterDufus]

Than most people on a goth board?

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lol. Good point.

No, wait. I'M THE GOTHIEST!

[BrassFusion]

lol.  Good point.

No, wait.  I'M THE GOTHIEST!

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Oh god don't get me started on gothier-than-thous.

[phee]

lol.  Good point.

No, wait.  I'M THE GOTHIEST!

Only if you have more Izods than others....

[kellygrrrrrl]

I am tired of being needed really.  Even when I get attention or affection it is not given to me in a unselfish way.  My family needs me, its overbearing at times.  My friends need me, for validation....or exceptance...or to enhance thier own lives....I wonder if I would not be happier just sitting in my room alone, writing lyrics and playing my drums and reading.

Can humans give without expecting anything in return I wonder....

Just want someone to want to be around me that doesn't need anything from me for a change. :confused

Or nothing.  Maybe I will just lay low for a bit.

I suppose I should be happy I am not alone....but for what I get for my efforts it doesn't seem worth it....

I need more 'me' time though for sure. :tear

And someone giving.  Unselfishly.

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I'm going through the same thing with my family, and friends.

I just come to grasp with that I am really alone in all of this.

I walk alone.

Even though I am not alone physically, there is a lot of people that love and care, but they need so much which makes me need so much.....

I just want to be alone....not forever, or anything, I have just been laying low myself.

I think maybe if I were alone more often I might actually enlighten my realm.

read, paint, hike through nature by myself, get closer to "it"....

I don't know.

Sometmies I think there is nobody in the entire world that fully understands me.

Only I do....thats lonely.

But I'm getting more comfortable with that. =)

[torn asunder]

I'm going through the same thing with my family, and friends.

I just come to grasp with that I am really alone in all of this.

I walk alone.

Even though I am not alone physically, there is a lot of people that love and care, but they need so much which makes me need so much.....

I just want to be alone....not forever, or anything, I have just been laying low myself.

I think maybe if I were alone more often I might actually enlighten my realm.

read, paint, hike through nature by myself, get closer to "it"....

I don't know.

Sometmies I think there is nobody in the entire world that fully understands me.

Only I do....thats lonely.

But I'm getting more comfortable with that. =)

i don't think anyone can have a healthy relationship with another (my opinion) unless they each have some alone time to pursue the things that interest them. you have to maintain your own individual identity and explore your world in your own way, in order to have something to give to another. if you feel like talking a bit, pm me, i'm always around! =)

[HipsterDufus]

I'm going through the same thing with my family, and friends.

I just come to grasp with that I am really alone in all of this.

I walk alone.

Even though I am not alone physically, there is a lot of people that love and care, but they need so much which makes me need so much.....

I just want to be alone....not forever, or anything, I have just been laying low myself.

I think maybe if I were alone more often I might actually enlighten my realm.

read, paint, hike through nature by myself, get closer to "it"....

I don't know.

Sometmies I think there is nobody in the entire world that fully understands me.

Only I do....thats lonely.

But I'm getting more comfortable with that. =)

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I came to the conclusion long ago that only I knew what was right for myself and that I should stop listening to other people's advice and what they think about my life. However, living that and knowing that are two different things. A lot of times it's really hard to take a step back and think, "What do I really want? Who am I? What do I believe?" Those answers can only come from within. However, it's really easy (especially if you're confused) to let other people's opinions on those questions to fill the void left when you don't have an answer. I'm still trying to work on this.

[kellygrrrrrl]

I came to the conclusion long ago that only I knew what was right for myself and that I should stop listening to other people's advice and what they think about my life. However, living that and knowing that are two different things.  A lot of times it's really hard to take a step back and think, "What do I really want? Who am I? What do I believe?"  Those answers can only come from within.  However, it's really easy (especially if you're confused) to let other people's opinions on those questions to fill the void left when you don't have an answer.  I'm still trying to work on this.

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I hear that Hipster!

great advice!

=)

[Head Wreck]

i try to be selfless. but good deeds are hardly ever repayed.

at the moment i'm chirpier than ever but with a greater cynicism of people in general (airsoft scene thouroughly rattled my faith in other people being selfless).

[Homicidalheathen]

i don't think anyone can have a healthy relationship with another (my opinion) unless they each have some alone time to pursue the things that interest them. you have to maintain your own individual identity and explore your world in your own way, in order to have something to give to another. if you feel like talking a bit, pm me, i'm always around!

Thanks Torn. This is my problem though. I feel guilty not pleasing others or doing what I think is demanded of me by loved ones and loose sight of myself. Its strange, I know the 'me' time is important but feel selfish taking it when everything is busy like this.

[BrassFusion]

I came to the conclusion long ago that only I knew what was right for myself and that I should stop listening to other people's advice and what they think about my life. However, living that and knowing that are two different things.  A lot of times it's really hard to take a step back and think, "What do I really want? Who am I? What do I believe?"  Those answers can only come from within.  However, it's really easy (especially if you're confused) to let other people's opinions on those questions to fill the void left when you don't have an answer.  I'm still trying to work on this.

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Some people DO give good advice. Smart people who care about you, that is. It depends on your situation and how objective you are, I guess. I tend to take care of myself too, because I'm more or less the psychologist in my circle of friends.

[Scary Guy]

My religion isn't that all humans suck. My religion is that we're all going to die and be devoured by a void of nothingness.

As far as friendship goes it's a two way street. If someone needs something from you fine. If you need something from them they should accomidate you as much as you've accomidated them. If you never need anything from them then they should look to other sources for help. Because if you become a valuable giving resource to them they'll just keep comming back for more like a junkie.

[Homicidalheathen]

I do value your opinions though Scary, your pretty smart.

[Scary Guy]

I do value your opinions though Scary, your pretty smart.

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All I know is that I know nothing

*tries to look humble*

[Homicidalheathen]

So your mind is the all encompasing void to which you speak of?

[Scary Guy]

So your mind is the all encompasing void to which you speak of?

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Sometimes, yeah. If not now it will be eventually.