There Are Only Three Kinds Of Female The Men Let You Be In The Military

[Msterbeau]

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/03/...ary/?source=rss

Sad. The worst part is that the military is still only paying lip service to bringing the perpetrators to justice.

15 years after Tailhook and nobody seems to have learned a damn thing.

[BrassFusion]

That's why they should only let gays in the military.

[c0pper]

I think a lot of this could be solved by who they allow in the military, both men and women. A lot of the people admitted are sub-standard and shouldn't be allowed to wear a military uniform. Both men and women enter the service, not knowing what it takes (except airforce...wussies), and then can't take it.

I am a female, I have served, and I've seen a lot more women make false accusations of sexual assault than warranted ones....in fact, in 7 years I have only seen one true sexual assault. The man who did it is now in leavenworth.

I have not, however, been to the gulf. Perhaps it is different on the sand...and I have heard many more negative things regarding the army and the treatment of personel.

I just wish they would stop letting idiots in. :doh

[Msterbeau]

I think a lot of this could be solved by who they allow in the military, both men and women. A lot of the people admitted are sub-standard and shouldn't be allowed to wear a military uniform. Both men and women enter the service, not knowing what it takes (except airforce...wussies), and then can't take it.

I am a female, I have served, and I've seen a lot more women make false accusations of sexual assault than warranted ones....in fact, in 7 years I have only seen one true sexual assault. The man who did it is now in leavenworth.

I have not, however, been to the gulf. Perhaps it is different on the sand...and I have heard many more negative things regarding the army and the treatment of personel.

I just wish they would stop letting idiots in. :doh

How do you know the accusations were false?

[c0pper]

How do you know the accusations were false?

1.) females had addmited they were doing it to get back at the accused while chatting in their cliques and I overheard (twice this was the case on the ship)

2.) One was a co-worker and hinted at the fact it was false

3.) One was investigated and it was found to be false, she later admitted to lying and then had some sort of mental breakdown and got out

You have to understand I don't have many good things to say about females in the Navy. Our ship lost about 15 (out of 300) people just before deployment (Iraqi Freedom) because girls got pregnant. Why the hell would you join the Navy if you didn't want to be on a ship?

[bav]

1.) females had addmited they were doing it to get back at the accused while chatting in their cliques and I overheard (twice this was the case on the ship)

2.) One was a co-worker and hinted at the fact it was false

3.) One was investigated and it was found to be false, she later admitted to lying and then had some sort of mental breakdown and got out

You have to understand I don't have many good things to say about females in the Navy. Our ship lost about 15 (out of 300) people just before deployment (Iraqi Freedom) because girls got pregnant. Why the hell would you join the Navy if you didn't want to be on a ship?

Didn't want to be on a ship or didn't want to get deployed?

[bav]

I'm also curious to hear opinions on this from Odims and Candy on this, being the only 2 people on this board that I know of who have done tours in Iraq. This goes for others who've also been over there that I'm missing.

[c0pper]

Didn't want to be on a ship or didn't want to get deployed?

Hmmm...it's the same thing IMHO. Ships go out on the water, for long periods of time. It's common knowledge.

They should have joined the air force

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I would like to add.. from my own experiance in the military.

Young girls join with the same mentality they had in highschool the month before. They get pissed off and do anything they can to "get back" at who ever they are pissed at. Accusations of sexual assualt is an easy way to "get back" at who ever it was tat pissed them off.

I worked as clerk for a while. All I did was file legal paperwork of a sensitive nature. I had 3 rape cases to process in my timne on that duty. 2 of them turned out to be girls that were pissed off at someone so made up a story. The last one.. well.. I sent his file to Ft. Leavenworth (military prison).

Oh and... if you accuse someone of this kind of thing... you get pulled off duty while they investigate and to give you time to get your head straight... easy way to get pulled out.

[Steven]

during my tour I remember one rape case that was legit.

I also remember several spouse abuse situations that took place in the barracks and were common knowledge and yet never prosecuted or investigated by top. Especially if the wives were of German or Korean background who married into america. sad but true...mark you know this too, I'm sure you've seen it.

my tour at FTCKY was during peacetime.

but I do remember well, how manipualtive women could be. You have scores of alcoholic and horny men cramped togethor, and teh occasional female would rotate thru...they often took quite a few men for a ride. I've seen stupid assholes spend huge amounts of money on jewlery, clthes, cars, etc....for some snatch down the hall in the barracks. I only make this statement to suggest that "occasionaly", the tension that resulted in a "rape" or assault was definately and intentionally manipulated by a woman. It gets pretty ugly in there. I'm not saying it was or is deserved, but I am saying that many of the female soldiers in my day were playing with fire and playing with way too many different unstable men.

and yes there are many lesbian soldiers, most of whom are rather dykish....unless she's an officer or an upper level NCO and then you'd find the lipstick variety. stereotypical I know but true nonetheless. Doesent make them bad people though, lots of them were my friends.

peacetime, wartime...not sure if it really matters.

gay soldiers (male) were a rarity in my day. they existed but not in any of the battalions I was attatched to. We had one in the warhawk battalion accross the field from us though and I heard he had a pretty tough time. By and large its still a man's army. If yrou a women and want to be a soldier I have no problem with that, but lock and load and move to the front with everybody else and take all the hits that come with it. As for gay males I've softened my position on it over the years. But they run the risk of being singled out and placed in harms way and you cant legislate that away.