Fear

[CandyQuackenbush]

I have no fear anymore.

I have no feeling anymore.

[Joey Deadcat]

[Scary Guy]

Actually, he called you out pretty good. I heard all about you on DCC from a few friends of mine, one I worked with. No need to try to cover anything up, no one gives a shit as long as you behave. There's a few of us that are proof of that.

I just remember getting into squabbles with him over there, and to a lesser nicer extent over here. I don't really have anything against him and we have a few mutual friends... and enemies.

Ask your friends about me though, believe me I'm way more hated than he is (ok about equally as much).

Who really knows you on this board? Your post count's kinda low... and it didn't look like either of them were attacking you. Give people the benefit of the doubt and it'll be easier for everybody.

Look up some old threads. A few other members that frequented both boards gave him some flack over here too. People with opinions that aren't very popular make easy targets I guess.

I'd also like to add that I'm still happy that other board is dead.

[Homicidalheathen]

I didn't even bother joining the other one. This one and myspace and SG.....god how much time can one spend on the internet.

CP I never heard anything.

But.....who is this Jesus you speak of.......do you have proof of his exhistance? Any orb photos? LOL!

I just remember getting into squabbles with him over there, and to a lesser nicer extent over here. I don't really have anything against him and we have a few mutual friends... and enemies.

Ask your friends about me though, believe me I'm way more hated than he is (ok about equally as much).

Look up some old threads. A few other members that frequented both boards gave him some flack over here too. People with opinions that aren't very popular make easy targets I guess.

I'd also like to add that I'm still happy that other board is dead.

[Steven]

Are you afraid to die if your God's been imaginary all along?

no. (good question)

[know_buddy_kares]

I just remember getting into squabbles with him over there, and to a lesser nicer extent over here. I don't really have anything against him and we have a few mutual friends... and enemies.

Ask your friends about me though, believe me I'm way more hated than he is (ok about equally as much).

Look up some old threads. A few other members that frequented both boards gave him some flack over here too. People with opinions that aren't very popular make easy targets I guess.

I'd also like to add that I'm still happy that other board is dead.

Brass (Erin) is right dude, I wasn't trying to attack you in any way. So what if having an opinion makes you a target? AT LEAST YOU HAVE A BACKBONE TO STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU FEEL. And whether people think your a saint or a fuckin jerk is irrelevant, it's your life and opinions, not theirs. Just be open to suggestion.

DCC has always had their squabbles. But because of the flame forum, it's got a certain appeal to it i guess. I personally liked the board when it was around, and kinda wish it was back, there was some funny shit on there on occasion. Their sense of humor is just different than DGN's, and I happen to like both. Don't take things said online too seriously man, after all it IS the internet. Agree with it's policies or not, but that's just the way it works.

Scary Guy, they don't single you out as badly as you think, and like Pickle, ya can't take things too seriously, they like to be offensive on there. It's just that type of humor. Everyone is fair game ther, just the ones that get picked on less are normally better at the game. It's just a whole different sort of pecking order on there.

[Scary Guy]

I take EVERYTHING seriously (or most everything anyway) so that never worked for me.

[know_buddy_kares]

I take EVERYTHING seriously (or most everything anyway) so that never worked for me.

Erin is having problems logging on. But she told me to tell you that she says you're a little bitch who needs to lighten up

(mods if you find this offensive, PLEASE don't shoot the messenger! it's all in good fun anyway)

[Scary Guy]

Erin is having problems logging on. But she told me to tell you that she says you're a little bitch who needs to lighten up

(mods if you find this offensive, PLEASE don't shoot the messenger! it's all in good fun anyway)

Tell her I said she should learn to actually use a computer and then she wouldn't have problems logging in.

[know_buddy_kares]

Tell her I said she should learn to actually use a computer and then she wouldn't have problems logging in.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!! BURN!!!!!!! (Sorry Erin, but that was pretty damn funny!)

[crunchy_pickle (5)]

Well one thing I've always appreciated about this board is it doesn't seem like people are as judgmental or uptight as other boards. I have my opinions and some of them are facts enough to me to stick by and stand up for regardless of what anyone else thinks. I'm 50 times more insane than a extremist Muslim suicide bomber, but I at least will consider other people's thoughts and feelings.....

At least I know I'm insane though right?

[Msterbeau]

Well one thing I've always appreciated about this board is it doesn't seem like people are as judgmental or uptight as other boards. I have my opinions and some of them are facts enough to me to stick by and stand up for regardless of what anyone else thinks. I'm 50 times more insane than a extremist Muslim suicide bomber, but I at least will consider other people's thoughts and feelings.....

At least I know I'm insane though right?

If that's not fodder for a new topic.. I don't know what is.

*Runs to start one*

[crunchy_pickle (5)]

But.....who is this Jesus you speak of.......do you have proof of his exhistance? Any orb photos? LOL!

I'll make you a fair trade. Prove to me that George Washington existed, and I'll prove to you that Jesus existed. In all seriousness we have no "real" proof that either man existed, and even if we could dig up old Georgie, what verifiable evidence do we have that it's actually him? The best we might have is living descendants that claim they can trace their families back to him. Well that's not really that long ago, so I really do have no doubt that DNA testing could prove this claim, but could it prove that he was not really some potato farmer named David that all these people are related to? The point is, history is history and very little of it can be proven. Prove to me that Alexander the Great existed, and I'll tell you that despite all of his accomplishments, he doesn't have anything on the influence that Jesus had on the world nor Buddha for that matter. To top it off they both achieved by far more than most people under 35 can ever hope to achieve.

Personally, I think it's pretty clear and beyond the necessity to prove that Jesus did in fact live in this world once. Was he the son of God? Well, that's subject to opinion, but I do believe he is the Christ, a Buddha, and perhaps the most enlightened man to ever grace this world. He was born to Judaism, but his wisdom and love for people transcended any philosophy about life prior and to date.

As far as proofs go, if you require anything more than history you may as well forget that this planet even has a history. Aside from that, it would be far easier to prove the existence of God than Jesus. The only truly undeniable proof of his existence is very well guarded anyways.

[BrassFusion]

I'll make you a fair trade. Prove to me that George Washington existed, and I'll prove to you that Jesus existed. In all seriousness we have no "real" proof that either man existed, and even if we could dig up old Georgie, what verifiable evidence do we have that it's actually him? The best we might have is living descendants that claim they can trace their families back to him. Well that's not really that long ago, so I really do have no doubt that DNA testing could prove this claim, but could it prove that he was not really some potato farmer named David that all these people are related to? The point is, history is history and very little of it can be proven. Prove to me that Alexander the Great existed, and I'll tell you that despite all of his accomplishments, he doesn't have anything on the influence that Jesus had on the world nor Buddha for that matter. To top it off they both achieved by far more than most people under 35 can ever hope to achieve.

Personally, I think it's pretty clear and beyond the necessity to prove that Jesus did in fact live in this world once. Was he the son of God? Well, that's subject to opinion, but I do believe he is the Christ, a Buddha, and perhaps the most enlightened man to ever grace this world. He was born to Judaism, but his wisdom and love for people transcended any philosophy about life prior and to date.

As far as proofs go, if you require anything more than history you may as well forget that this planet even has a history. Aside from that, it would be far easier to prove the existence of God than Jesus. The only truly undeniable proof of his existence is very well guarded anyways.

We have multiple documents written and signed by the same hand by a man who called himself George Washington over the entire course of his verified life, portraits from at least three different stages of life of recognizably the same man (who called himself George Washington) by more than three different artists, multiple sets of ivory (not wood) dentures fitting the same jaw size as each other, and an interred body of a man who was known by others and buried as George Washington. He hasn't been disinterred (at least not officially, who knows if some high-tech grave robbers have hit, eh?) and yet his entire body has been reconstructed through photography, plaster-cast sculpture, and clothing he wore during his life to produce an accurate 3D graphical model of some asshole who called himself George Washington. I'm not making any of this up, by the way.

We have NONE of that evidence to support that Jesus of Nazareth existed as a man at all, much less a divine one. The J-man is a matter of "faith," and George Washington is a matter of history. I guess we'll see if anyone remembers Washington after another 2,000 years, and if anyone still remembers Jesus. I bet they'll both still be remembered by history, and honestly, if I had to say one way or the other, I believe that the memory and spirit of "Jesus" will outlive the memory and spirit of "George Washington." It'll undergo some surprising changes, though. It already has.

[Scary Guy]

Well one thing I've always appreciated about this board is it doesn't seem like people are as judgmental or uptight as other boards. I have my opinions and some of them are facts enough to me to stick by and stand up for regardless of what anyone else thinks. I'm 50 times more insane than a extremist Muslim suicide bomber, but I at least will consider other people's thoughts and feelings.....

Oh everyone is still judgmental, just here we're not allowed to be as vocal about it.

[know_buddy_kares]

there's...THIS

Then, there's also THIS

[Homicidalheathen]

So......someone out there has Jesus' DNA with which to make comparisions? Doubt it.

I'll make you a fair trade. Prove to me that George Washington existed, and I'll prove to you that Jesus existed. In all seriousness we have no "real" proof that either man existed, and even if we could dig up old Georgie, what verifiable evidence do we have that it's actually him? The best we might have is living descendants that claim they can trace their families back to him. Well that's not really that long ago, so I really do have no doubt that DNA testing could prove this claim, but could it prove that he was not really some potato farmer named David that all these people are related to? The point is, history is history and very little of it can be proven. Prove to me that Alexander the Great existed, and I'll tell you that despite all of his accomplishments, he doesn't have anything on the influence that Jesus had on the world nor Buddha for that matter. To top it off they both achieved by far more than most people under 35 can ever hope to achieve.

Personally, I think it's pretty clear and beyond the necessity to prove that Jesus did in fact live in this world once. Was he the son of God? Well, that's subject to opinion, but I do believe he is the Christ, a Buddha, and perhaps the most enlightened man to ever grace this world. He was born to Judaism, but his wisdom and love for people transcended any philosophy about life prior and to date.

As far as proofs go, if you require anything more than history you may as well forget that this planet even has a history. Aside from that, it would be far easier to prove the existence of God than Jesus. The only truly undeniable proof of his existence is very well guarded anyways.

[BrassFusion]

Oh everyone is still judgmental, just here we're not allowed to be as vocal about it.

sad but true. oh well pickle, you know i dig ya even if little boys like scary don't

[Scary Guy]

So......someone out there has Jesus' DNA with which to make comparisions? Doubt it.

Jay does....

http://flem.comicgenesis.com/d/20000215.html

[crunchy_pickle (5)]

We have multiple documents written and signed by the same hand by a man who called himself George Washington over the entire course of his verified life, portraits from at least three different stages of life of recognizably the same man (who called himself George Washington) by more than three different artists, multiple sets of ivory (not wood) dentures fitting the same jaw size as each other, and an interred body of a man who was known by others and buried as George Washington. He hasn't been disinterred (at least not officially, who knows if some high-tech grave robbers have hit, eh?) and yet his entire body has been reconstructed through photography, plaster-cast sculpture, and clothing he wore during his life to produce an accurate 3D graphical model of some asshole who called himself George Washington. I'm not making any of this up, by the way.

We have NONE of that evidence to support that Jesus of Nazareth existed as a man at all, much less a divine one. The J-man is a matter of "faith," and George Washington is a matter of history. I guess we'll see if anyone remembers Washington after another 2,000 years, and if anyone still remembers Jesus. I bet they'll both still be remembered by history, and honestly, if I had to say one way or the other, I believe that the memory and spirit of "Jesus" will outlive the memory and spirit of "George Washington." It'll undergo some surprising changes, though. It already has.

Well, I would have to disagree and state that George Washington is also a matter of faith. Despite, all of these "facts" regarding the life of Washington and various articles and signed documents, none of us were there. Consider this. Everything we're told by the media is a lie. While, this statement is false, the possibility that big brother lies to us through the media cannot be ruled out. That being said, who's to say that the life of George Washington is not a work of fiction? Who's to say that the documents written by George were not in fact written by some grand master of an evil and ancient secret society? No one. Do I believe this? Of course not, but the possibility exists, and therefore George is no less an article of faith than Jesus is.

As far as Jesus being divine goes, there is only one divine being in this universe and that is our Holy Father. There is nothing divine about man.

So......someone out there has Jesus' DNA with which to make comparisions? Doubt it.

No, they don't have his DNA to make comparisons. That would be impossible, because they did not have DNA testing in Jesus's time, and Jesus's body resurrected from the tomb in which he was placed.

[Sybil]

If that's not fodder for a new topic.. I don't know what is.

*Runs to start one*

:o

ahahahaha!

*bends over and braces self hands on knees style*

hahahahahaha

[crunchy_pickle (5)]

:o

ahahahaha!

*bends over and braces self hands on knees style*

hahahahahaha

Hehe it's already started hon. BTW you know this is Kevin right? Just curious....

[Homicidalheathen]

How convienent

As far as Jesus being divine goes, there is only one divine being in this universe and that is our Holy Father. There is nothing divine about man.

No, they don't have his DNA to make comparisons. That would be impossible, because they did not have DNA testing in Jesus's time, and Jesus's body resurrected from the tomb in which he was placed.

[crunchy_pickle (5)]

How convienent

As far as Jesus being divine goes, there is only one divine being in this universe and that is our Holy Father. There is nothing divine about man.

No, they don't have his DNA to make comparisons. That would be impossible, because they did not have DNA testing in Jesus's time, and Jesus's body resurrected from the tomb in which he was placed.

I used to be a christian......I dont doubt that Jesus existed or Buddha or whoever just doubt they will lead me to anything I can't get to on my own.

Exactly. That was my point in knowing versus knowledge. A person who believes in God is a fool. A person who believes there is no God is likewise a fool. Beliefs are beliefs, and are completely empty. You either know or you don't know, and if you claim to know, and you don't, then you're an idiot. This is also why I said it's easier to prove the existence of God, than it is to prove the existence of Jesus. Through existential experience one can know without knowledge, because knowledge is inferior to knowing and subject to the rules of men. There is nothing divine about men, and therefore becoming closer to God is impossible through the knowledge of men. This is why we were given the Spirit of truth.

You cannot deny the existence of God, if you are in touch with the spirit within you as well as your soul. This is why I also think religion is a waste of time. It might be good for children to nourish them, but there is only so much children can learn from men. The most intelligent children are influenced early enough, so that they never detach from God. This is why you hear things like children seeing auras or being more susceptible to being tormented by demons, etc. See, demons only have as much power as you give to them, and if you have no belief in them at all, they have no power. If you are afraid of them, they can enter your body, and control you. This is why it was taught to fear no evil and evil will not become you.

There are no absolutes in life, and this was my point with George Washington. Life is relative and knowledge is relative as well. This is why the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge aka Knowledge of Good and Bad was forbidden. Likewise, if I believed in absolutes, I would never have learned these things properly, and this is why I don't call myself a Christian or by any religious name. I know and have faith from experience. When I refer to blind faith, I speak of faith that one obtains from knowing, without seeing, because you have to deny yourself before you can see. On the otherhand, there are people who believe that blind faith is believing without knowing for sure This is idiotic, and not faith at all.

I completely respect your thoughts of finding God yourself. This is probably the most intelligent thing I have heard on this thread. My parents were Catholic, but I had a close relationship with God, before I even knew what Church was. That relationship was nourished outside of the Church, and was ultimately the reason I left. My parents, teachers, and priests growing up were always surprised at how quickly I picked up on things, and how well I did in school, music, sports, and how much I knew. This is not because I was a smart person, but because I questioned everything. I knew then, that there are no absolutes, and that the temporal world is just a veil for the spiritual one. To "normal" people, I was schizophrenic, to spiritual people, I was "enlightened". To myself I was and still am growing. If you ever question anything or need answers, feel free to contact me. I will try my best to answer any questions you have in your quest.

Take care,

Kevin

[BrassFusion]

Well, I would have to disagree and state that George Washington is also a matter of faith. Despite, all of these "facts" regarding the life of Washington and various articles and signed documents, none of us were there. Consider this. Everything we're told by the media is a lie. While, this statement is false, the possibility that big brother lies to us through the media cannot be ruled out. That being said, who's to say that the life of George Washington is not a work of fiction? Who's to say that the documents written by George were not in fact written by some grand master of an evil and ancient secret society? No one. Do I believe this? Of course not, but the possibility exists, and therefore George is no less an article of faith than Jesus is.

As far as Jesus being divine goes, there is only one divine being in this universe and that is our Holy Father. There is nothing divine about man.

No, they don't have his DNA to make comparisons. That would be impossible, because they did not have DNA testing in Jesus's time, and Jesus's body resurrected from the tomb in which he was placed.

It would take a massive conspiracy to cover up the fact that George Washington isn't real... and a conspiracy that old wouldn't even have had the technology starting out to obfuscate the reality from modern day researchers. All independent studies so far support the idea that he really lived, he was named George Washington, and he was the United States' first president.

And finding Jesus' DNA wouldn't be impossible if we had remains of him and perhaps his mother. Hell, then we could do a paternity test and close the book on this BS once and for all...