How Do You Comply

[Dubh Aingeal]

Man In Mess Of Trouble Over Junk In Yard

Man Sentenced To 60 Days In Jail

POSTED: 9:08 am EDT August 23, 2007

CAPE ST. CLAIRE, Md. -- A Maryland man has been sent to jail for having a dirty yard.

Officials said they tried for seven years to get George Hartsuff to clean up old boats, crab pots and other debris in his back yard.

Hartsuff was jailed earlier this month for not obeying a court order last month to clean debris from his yard.

When authorities returned after giving Hartsuff 30 days to clean his yard, they found junk including an Arizona Iced Tea vending machine in the yard.

A judge sentenced Hartsuff to 60 days in a county jail.

If his yard isn't cleaned up by then, he could face more jail time.

[Scary Guy]

60 days seems a little steep to me.

It's his property, and I think he should be able to do whatever he wants with it as long as he's not hurting anyone. Hurting their property values is another story, fuck them.

[pomba gira]

That kind of thing actually is a health hazard for everyone in the immediate area, mainly because rats nest in piles of debris like that. They carry all kinds of diseases and will bite babies/children with no provocation.

[Dubh Aingeal]

I think you might be missing the point. I want to know how you comply to clean up your yard in 60 days when your sitting in jail for those 60 days?

[pomba gira]

I would guess he's not expected to do it himsellf, necessarily, but does have to show that he's made some kind of arrangements to have it done. Or not... certainly wouldn't be the first example of godawful stupid sentencing I've seen.

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

lol....thank you American judicial system for another example of your money making ways....It's all about keeping people in jail as long as possible...cuz alot of people don't know this...but you are charged for your jail stay.....about $30 a day....and if you don't pay it....they will arrest you again....and rack up the cost...so that guy doing 60 days...he is gonna owe the jail

anywhere from $1600-$1800.

now....thats ON TOP of what jails garner from everything else...like about $28 a day per prisoner--from the county they are located in, about $18 a day per prisoner from state goverment, and another $32 a day per prisoner from federal...so...they just made an average total of : $6,360 just on that ONE GUY for his stay....kinda makes you want to open up a jail in your back yard, huh?

and...if it's planned right....jails are on of the best money makers in the world....Mark Hackel..Sheriff of Macomb County, OWNS the land the jail sits on...so he gets extra money for that from state and ferderal....his wife owns controlling interest in the "vending company" that supplies all the commisary for the inmates....money there...the juice and milk they get...comes from "Sunshine Farms"....owned by...wait...Mark Hackel....$$$....and all the food....comes from Hackels giant ass farm up state...more $$$

And people wonder why every inmate says jail is crooked....

[Scary Guy]

You forgot the extra awesome $3 a day they make if they work. I don't know if it's even that high.

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

You forgot the extra awesome $3 a day they make if they work. I don't know if it's even that high.

except thats what you get "paid" by the county...thats not what they are making off you.

and thats goes on your commisary...and if you leave with money on your account, money that you earned in jail...they keep it...they tell you it goes towards your "bill".

so here is my idea....

I'm gonna get some dog cages for my backyard, put roofs on them..and cement them about 6 feet into the ground.

I will then get some people that have done "crimes" and lock them in the dog cages.

I will then charge them $15 a day and feed them hot dogs and beans.

[Destroit]

lol....thank you American judicial system for another example of your money making ways....It's all about keeping people in jail as long as possible...cuz alot of people don't know this...but you are charged for your jail stay.....about $30 a day....and if you don't pay it....they will arrest you again....and rack up the cost...so that guy doing 60 days...he is gonna owe the jail

anywhere from $1600-$1800.

now....thats ON TOP of what jails garner from everything else...like about $28 a day per prisoner--from the county they are located in, about $18 a day per prisoner from state goverment, and another $32 a day per prisoner from federal...so...they just made an average total of : $6,360 just on that ONE GUY for his stay....kinda makes you want to open up a jail in your back yard, huh?

and...if it's planned right....jails are on of the best money makers in the world....Mark Hackel..Sheriff of Macomb County, OWNS the land the jail sits on...so he gets extra money for that from state and ferderal....his wife owns controlling interest in the "vending company" that supplies all the commisary for the inmates....money there...the juice and milk they get...comes from "Sunshine Farms"....owned by...wait...Mark Hackel....$$$....and all the food....comes from Hackels giant ass farm up state...more $$$

And people wonder why every inmate says jail is crooked....

You forget to add too that once you've been in the system, it's next to impossible to get out. I mean ANYTHING goes wrong in the area (or sometimes not, they'll actually make up shit to pin you with sometimes) and you have no lawyer you best bet that they'll throw you in jail anyway. Doesn't matter if you did the crime or not and it should be shocking that this happens much more than anyone would LIKE to believe. They'll literally constantly be looking for you for the rest of your life and pinning you with things you didn't do, bringing about court costs, lawyer fees, probation fees, etc etc. The list goes on. Public safety has NOTHING TO DO with keeping the public safe (how many times has a cop pleased you instead of pissing you off?), it is ALL about money and that's that. It is easily the most corrupt system in America, it has nothing to do with "right and wrong" or "good or bad" it's about making money and letting the people who HAVE money off the hook.

You wanna know how my friends get out of it? What they'll do (and you wanna do this if you go to jail) is that when they release you they try to do anything in their absolute power to get you to sign one form - an agreement that you'll pay the jail fines. Don't sign it. Walk the fuck out. There's legally not SHIT they can do, but you bet that they're gonna try to keep you there and TELL you you have to sign it (kinda like in interrogation rooms), blah blah, and lie to you (yes cops CAN lie to you legally and blatantly and as a matter of fact it's encouraged) saying that they can throw you in jail if you don't, etc. Whatever they tell you or try to get you to believe, don't put the pen on the paper.