Good Riddance To The Lightbulb

[Hellion]

http://biz.yahoo.com/usnews/071219/19_faq_...nking-budgeting

I might just have to buy a few well ahead of time,you never know what it might fetch on E-Bay

when you cannot buy anymore

[ttogreh]

This is simply speeding the inevitable.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Our deaths by brain damage cause by mercury poisoning?

those fancy new bulps that use so little energy and have such a small carbin foor print.... read the damn box. If you break one, your not sopposed to let it touch your exposed skin. They are not sopposed to go in land fills. They have mercury in them, lots of it.

It's like a band-aide with poisen on it.

Stupid fucking people in congress appeasing the whacko doom crying global warming nut fucking jobs.

Same fucking whackos that claim that the last two years being the coldest in fucking ever is proof of global warming... fucking whack jobs. Pay your Carbon tax... your messiah Gore isn't rich enough yet.

[Msterbeau]

Our deaths by brain damage cause by mercury poisoning?

those fancy new bulps that use so little energy and have such a small carbin foor print.... read the damn box. If you break one, your not sopposed to let it touch your exposed skin. They are not sopposed to go in land fills. They have mercury in them, lots of it.

It's like a band-aide with poisen on it.

Stupid fucking people in congress appeasing the whacko doom crying global warming nut fucking jobs.

Same fucking whackos that claim that the last two years being the coldest in fucking ever is proof of global warming... fucking whack jobs. Pay your Carbon tax... your messiah Gore isn't rich enough yet.

Your solution?

[Shade Everdark]

Do you own a thermometer, or a barometer? Do you own a wristwatch, a calculator, or a hearing aid? Ever been to the dentist's office? Have an old gas-fired furnace in your home? Or a thermostat? Ever go out walking anywhere at night? Ever been to a sporting event? How about a parking lot at night? Yes to any of those means that you've had the same exposure to mercury that you'd get from a CFL (Compact Fluorescent Lamp). In most of the examples listed here, you'd be getting more. There's about one-tenth as much mercury in a CFL as there is in the average fever thermometer.

So let's not go getting hysterical, hm?

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Marc: My solution is not to replace something that is deemed bad by bad science (global warming) with something far worse.

Shade: I'm not hysterical. I'm pissed. This is stupid litigation based on bad "science".

[Msterbeau]

Marc: My solution is not to replace something that is deemed bad by bad science (global warming) with something far worse.

Shade: I'm not hysterical. I'm pissed. This is stupid litigation based on bad "science".

it's more the just global warming though. It's use of resources. The only resource that really isn't finite is the sun. Solar is nice but expensive still. `

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

No, it's not. It's about profit.

[Destroit]

Our deaths by brain damage cause by mercury poisoning?

those fancy new bulps that use so little energy and have such a small carbin foor print.... read the damn box. If you break one, your not sopposed to let it touch your exposed skin. They are not sopposed to go in land fills. They have mercury in them, lots of it.

It's like a band-aide with poisen on it.

Stupid fucking people in congress appeasing the whacko doom crying global warming nut fucking jobs.

Same fucking whackos that claim that the last two years being the coldest in fucking ever is proof of global warming... fucking whack jobs. Pay your Carbon tax... your messiah Gore isn't rich enough yet.

....don't....touch the mercury...maybe? Oh and be responsible and dispose properly

Personally I like the thought of using less electricity, saves me money on my bill. Ohhh and call me crazy (although there's a lot of people that would say the same about your theory) but I buy into this whole "bad science" thing you're talking about. I'm not going to sit here and explain to you why global warming is happening and how, I'd just be wasting type because it's not like I can change your mind but...

If you want proof, look at Venus' atmosphere. Notice the composition of the atmosphere (hint hint...let's just say they have a liiiiiitle bit more greenhouse gases than we do, like 98% CO2 or something like that) and then then correlation of the massively scorching temperature. But of course CO2 which TRAPS HEAT wouldn't have anything to do with their hot atmosphere or our rapidly warming one...that would just be silly claiming that human beings are causing damage to the earth.

[Destroit]

Also, it's not just lightbulbs, they're mandating that buildings be built to be more environmentally safe and also that cars get at least 35 mpg (I think 35, don't quote me on that). I think it's amazing personally, about time something is done about it, you can only stick your head in the sand for so long.

[Winter Steele]

Good point Chernobyl ! I would also like to point out that the hole in the ozone was larger in the beginning verses now .

[phee]

Good point Chernobyl ! I would also like to point out that the hole in the ozone was larger in the beginning verses now .

Your welcome.... I try

[Head Wreck]

i find its harder to break one than an old edison bulb (and was edison the inventor? there's a lot of dispute over that in itself).

i've only ever broken one. the work's idiot decided to creep up on me using one as a sword and it broke as a spun round and blocked it with my arm. i havent grown an extra head as yet

[Winter Steele]

Your welcome.... I try

Oh no you didn't ! taking credit for someone elses post is wrong ! I challenge you to a duel (Slaps Phee ) pistols at dawn ! LOL

[know_buddy_kares]

gaf... you're getting pissed off over a fucking light bulb dude...

a fucking LIGHT BULB...

So fuckin what if it's got mercury in it? Let darwinism take it's course.. I'm tired of having to share this planet with idiots.

[phee]

Oh no you didn't ! taking credit for someone elses post is wrong ! I challenge you to a duel (Slaps Phee ) pistols at dawn ! LOL

*runs away in fear, hides in the dark without lightbulbs on*

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Look people. Do some reading.

If you drop one... 1, uno... it releases enough mercury for the room it's in to be considered hazardous to life. As in call in the Haz-Mat team for the cleanup and expect a bill in the thousands to clean up a fucking light bulb.

Chernobyl - Don't touch it? Dispose of it properly? Do you have access to a hazardous waste facility? You can't throw them away and you cant put them in the recycle bin.

Also, I did not say i don't believe global warming is happening. It is a natural process that is not caused by humans. There is no proof it is human caused. The "global consensus" is not that we humans caused it.. it's that we "might" be the cause. No body can say for certain what the cause is. There is actually more evidence that it is not human caused than it is.

and before you start talking to me about clouds let ask you something... How do clouds form? Why is it that not one of the computer models that we use to study global warming include Clouds and Cloud formation?

And the whole in the Ozone... Do you know why thats not brought up anymore? It turned out to be natural. it gets bigger and smaller all on it's own.... and it turned out every planet has a hole of some kind in it's atmosphere at the poles... it's like someone actually took what they learned in school about spinning balls and applied it to a planet sized ball (things pull toward the middle and away from the poles).

Why is the Ice in anartica getting thicker? Why is there record snow fall there? Did you know glaciers from from the bottom up? Did you know that most of mean tempature rise predicted for global warming has already happend and the carbon levels rose after it got warmer? Did you know this all happened before.... repeatedly?

Global Warming is a scam. Just like the coming Ice Age of the 1970's. The differeance being the people behind it have a better media machine this time around... Yes, the same damn people.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

BTW, most packaging doesn;t tell you this either...

if you use these things in track lights or other low voltage areas... they catch on fire.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Here are U.S. EPA’s guidelines for cleaning up a broken CFL:

1. Open a window and leave the room (restrict access) for at least 15 minutes. If you have fans, place the fans in the windows and blow the air out of the room. Note: If the room has no windows, open all doors to the room and windows outside the room and use fans to move the air out of the room and to the open windows.

2. Remove all materials you can without using a vacuum cleaner.

3. Wear disposable rubber gloves, if available (do not use your bare hands).

4. Carefully scoop up the fragments and powder with stiff paper or cardboard.

5. Wipe the area clean with a damp paper towel or disposable wet wipe.

Sticky tape (such as duct tape) can be used to pick up small pieces and powder.

6. Place all cleanup materials in a plastic bag and seal it, and then place in a second sealed plastic bag.

If no other disposal or recycling options are available, private residents may dispose of the CFL in residential garbage. Be sure to seal the CFL in two plastic bags and put into the outside trash.

7 .Wash your hands after disposing of the bags.

8. The first time you vacuum the area where the bulb was broken, remove the vacuum bag once done cleaning the area (or empty and wipe the canister) and put the bag and/or vacuum debris, as well as the cleaning materials, in two sealed plastic bags in the outdoor trash or protected outdoor location for normal disposal.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007

Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called "consensus" on man-made global warming. These scientists, many of whom are current and former participants in the UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore.

This new report details how teams of international scientists are dissenting from the UN IPCC’s view of climate science. In such nations as Germany, Brazil, the Netherlands, Russia, New Zealand and France, nations, scientists banded together in 2007 to oppose climate alarmism. In addition, over 100 prominent international scientists sent an open letter in December 2007 to the UN stating attempts to control climate were “futile.” (LINK) Paleoclimatologist Dr. Tim Patterson, professor in the department of Earth Sciences at Carleton University in Ottawa, recently converted from a believer in man-made climate change to a skeptic. Patterson noted that the notion of a “consensus” of scientists aligned with the UN IPCC or former Vice President Al Gore is false. “I was at the Geological Society of America meeting in Philadelphia in the fall and I would say that people with my opinion were probably in the majority.”

"Attempts to prevent global climate change from occurring are ultimately futile, and constitute a tragic misallocation of resources that would be better spent on humanity's real and pressing problems," the letter signed by the scientists read. The December 13 letter was released to the public late Thursday. (LINK)

The letter was signed by renowned scientists such as Dr. Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists; Dr. Reid Bryson, dubbed the "Father of Meteorology"; Atmospheric pioneer Dr. Hendrik Tennekes, formerly of the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute; Award winning physicist Dr. Syun-Ichi Akasofu of the International Arctic Research Center, who has twice named one of the "1000 Most Cited Scientists"; Award winning MIT atmospheric scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen; UN IPCC scientist Dr. Vincent Gray of New Zealand; French climatologist Dr. Marcel Leroux of the University Jean Moulin; World authority on sea level Dr. Nils-Axel Morner of Stockholm University; Physicist Dr. Freeman Dyson of Princeton University; Physicist Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, chairman of the Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection in Poland; Paleoclimatologist Dr. Robert M. Carter of Australia; Former UN IPCC reviewer Geologist/Geochemist Dr. Tom V. Segalstad, head of the Geological Museum in Norway; and Dr. Edward J. Wegman, of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Look at Venus. OK. You look at Mars.

I'l crack open some planatary science books and explain to you why Venus is the was it is and you tell me why Mars is also experiances global warming.

[phee]

Look at Venus. OK. You look at Mars.

I'l crack open some planatary science books and explain to you why Venus is the was it is and you tell me why Mars is also experiances global warming.

I am getting the impression you may feel strongly about the whole "Global Warming" debate...

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

a tad.

[ttogreh]

Well, all of this is a moot point. Compact Fluorescent light bulbs probably only have about five more years left before LEDs start horning in on their game.

So, Gaf... what do you have against LEDs? Last I checked, they are not filled with mercury...

[Destroit]

Well, all of this is a moot point. Compact Fluorescent light bulbs probably only have about five more years left before LEDs start horning in on their game.

So, Gaf... what do you have against LEDs? Last I checked, they are not filled with mercury...

Ooooh...they even have LED Christmas lights that are prettier and WAY more long lasting than traditional Christmas lights...

ttogreh...you are on to something...the future is near!

There...and if anyone finds something to bitch about with LED lights you're yer just picking fights for fun or something No mercury, problem fixed.