The Myth Of The Ultra Fuel Efficient Vehicle

[freydis]

150 mpg!

[Msterbeau]

Beautiful. And I mean it's performance. Fuck loading up cars with all the crap they have now. Lightweight + aerodynamics + efficient engine is where it's at. Of course... I want a GT. Still pretty slow, but acceptable.

[Troy Spiral (13)]

But the Loremo is not a car for dreamers; not only will it enter mass production next year, it will sport a base price attainable by mortal motorists: 15,000 euros (about U.S. $22,000).

That there is the money shot. If that price is realistic, we are good to go within a decade or so when theres used versions on the market for 5 grand.

[torn asunder]

i'll wait to see the crash tests vs. a hummer...

(don't get me wrong - i love both the concept, and the car, but...)

[Msterbeau]

Home page... http://evolution.loremo.com/content/view/13/47/lang,en/

Very interesting technically.. Definitely my kinda car. Just needs some minor aesthetic alterations.

[Msterbeau]

i'll wait to see the crash tests vs. a hummer...

(don't get me wrong - i love both the concept, and the car, but...)

Check out the link I just posted. There's no doors in the side for a reason. Besides... You get manuverability with a light chassis like that. And if you're gonna die... you're gonna die. I'd rather have the mileage.

[Troy Spiral (13)]

Partly the reason why we have such shitty fuel economy is the "Arms Race" a.k.a. The Biggest Dicksize Contest.™© Of which i was once a regular contestant.

Regardless of the engine, a larger structure is going to be (by comparison) a fuel sucker. By the "bigger is better" rational we all will have to drive ever increasing monster-truck-tanks until they implode due to the gravitational attraction of their massive size.

Having said that, i drive a big ass Lincoln and virtually all my vehicles have been big-effin things. Often i seem to advocate ideas that are against my own personal interests but i think are better for the overall mass of humanity. Seems sort of anti-Darwinian.

[Destroit]

WANT

[ttogreh]

Well, sure 150 MPG sounds good, but what of its emissions? I can convert my truck to about forty miles per gallon, but it would be a frickin' smog machine...

[nilhil_glory]

WANT

DITTO

i think its very stylish in body shape... altho id rather get the color in a chrome or lime green...

i would definitly repaint the interior throw in two 15" MAs in a vacume sealed box of course!

with a badass surround sound speaker arraingement

[Msterbeau]

Well, sure 150 MPG sounds good, but what of its emissions? I can convert my truck to about forty miles per gallon, but it would be a frickin' smog machine...

They've got some amazingly clean diesels these days. Now that we get the low-sulfer diesel fuel here it's a lot easier to do. It has to meet our emissions regs in any case, so I wouldn't worry about that.

[Steven]

I still want an old shovel head.

I had a 1960 El Camino one with batman wings and a glass wrap around window that sucked gas like whooooosh...

but I miss that car dammit.

[Head Wreck]

i'm sure the car will grow on me after a few round trips to solihull and back.

big question. can you get 2 bergans, armour vests a minimi and two Diemenco SFW's in the boot

[Msterbeau]

i'm sure the car will grow on me after a few round trips to solihull and back.

big question. can you get 2 bergans, armour vests a minimi and two Diemenco SFW's in the boot

That's your problem.

[Head Wreck]

looks fun though, light, mid engined. RWD. if not the fastest car they seem fun in the same way Smart Roadsters and Smart Coupe's did (even the braubus tuned petrols got 50 to the gallon)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...17/Dsc03218.jpg

lets just say HW wants one for weekends, even if it can only fit my remmington rifle broken down and i'll have to wear my guillie

[Msterbeau]

looks fun though, light, mid engined. RWD. if not the fastest car they seem fun in the same way Smart Roadsters and Smart Coupe's did (even the braubus tuned petrols got 50 to the gallon)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...17/Dsc03218.jpg

lets just say HW wants one for weekends, even if it can only fit my remmington rifle broken down and i'll have to wear my guillie

Dude. Check out the rear hatch opening. It's pretty huge. With the rear seats folded down, I'm pretty sure you'll have ample room for your goodies.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/pop...24&src=news

[Msterbeau]

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/pop...24&src=news

So... a plug-in hybrid. There's still the costs and emissions associated with generating the electricity.

By the way... the link doesn't work anymore. Had to go to Youtube:

[ttogreh]

Well, batteries can be recycled, and if the electricity came from a nuclear plant or a wind farm, or a hydroelectric dam, or a solar array, or a wave farm, or...

[GOREgeouslyDecorated]

I wanna go down on you and make you extremely happy, then come back up slowly and fuck you real good..

Yours Truly,

Gas Prices

[Msterbeau]

Well, batteries can be recycled, and if the electricity came from a nuclear plant or a wind farm, or a hydroelectric dam, or a solar array, or a wave farm, or...

Yeah.. I know. But even if the source of electricity is renewable, there's still an out of pocket expense associated with it. I have yet to see a chart/study that shows the combined costs/mile.

Personally, I'd settle for 75mpg and some more performance. Double the horsepower of the GT to 100 with a small four-cylinder engine and it would still get fantastic mileage. The damn car weighs 1400lbs!!