Just read about this in the equality now newsletter

[Homicidalheathen]

A 17-year-old Iraqi girl was murdered by her father in an honour killing after falling in love with a British soldier she met while working on an aid programme in Basra, it has been claimed.

Rand Abdel-Qader was stamped upon, suffocated and stabbed by her father, then given an unceremonious burial to emphasise her disgrace. Police released her father without charge two hours after his arrest.

"Not much can be done when we have an honour killing case," said Sergeant Ali Jabbar of Basra police. "You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws. The father has very good contacts inside the Basra government and it wasn't hard for him to be released and what he did to be forgotten."

A total of 47 young women died in honour killings in the city last year, Basra Security Committee told an investigation into Ms Abdel-Qader's case by The Observer. This is believed to be the only case of an honour killing involving a British soldier.

The MoD had no official advice for troops on how to behave with Iraqi women. The serviceman involved would not have been told that any relationship with her could put her life at risk, the paper said.

Ms Abdel-Qader, a student of English at Basra University, had struck up a friendship with a 22-year-old British infantryman known only as Paul five months before her murder in March.

She was believed to have last seen him in January, and the pair, whose relationship was innocent, only ever met while working at the aid station. The soldier was helping deliver relief to displaced families as part of his regimental duties. Ms Abdel-Qader was a volunteer worker.

On the day her father, Abdel-Qader Ali, was told of their friendship by a friend, he accused her of having an affair with a British soldier and killed her in front of his wife, Leila Hussain, and their sons.

"I screamed and called out for her two brothers so they could get their father away from her. But when he told them the reason, instead of saving her they helped him end her life," Ms Hussain said. She then left her husband and has since divorced him. She has received threats from her husband's family and is in hiding. She now works for an organisation campaigning against honour killings

There have been over 30 'honor' killings this year alone in Iraq.

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[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Honor killings are part of the Arab culture. Should we outlaw Arab culture?

[sass_in_the_pants]

Honor killings are part of the Arab culture. Should we outlaw Arab culture?

Yes, we should.

I'm not a relativist.

So I can say shit like that.

And mean it.

[machine]

I would like to know a Barack Obama supporter's opinion on this article.

[phee]

I would like to know a Barack Obama supporter's opinion on this article.

What does he have to do with this? just curious..... I don't see him referrenced in the artical....

[machine]

I am curious.

[phee]

I am curious.

But why about him specifically? Why not, Bush or the one armed drummer for Def Leapord?.... What does Obama have to do with the artical?

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Yes, we should.

I'm not a relativist.

So I can say shit like that.

And mean it.

I can respect that. Ofcourse, I agree with it.

[Msterbeau]

Yes, we should.

I'm not a relativist.

So I can say shit like that.

And mean it.

Yup. If your "culture" cares so little for life... It ain't worth keeping.

[Homicidalheathen]

Thats why I think h3e won't get many votes...his name sounds to arabic and people get confused...

He is a honkey donkey lol not arabic

But why about him specifically? Why not, Bush or the one armed drummer for Def Leapord?.... What does Obama have to do with the artical?

[Rev.Reverence]

Honor killings are part of the Arab culture. Should we outlaw Arab culture?

NOT AN ARABIC CUSTOM (as I understand) A MUSLIM CUSTOM...

But I know what you mean here...

No...

..WE should not...but that does not mean we can't help the Muslim populace to do such...especially the Muslims here and in other 'more progressive' places...

...like how France helped us in The Revolution...

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Sharia law outlaws Honor killings.

Historically, they come from the tribal Arabic and Hindu cultures.

I know it's not a great source but..

Wiki on Honor Killing

Sharif Kanaana, professor of anthropology at Birzeit University states that honor killing is:

A complicated issue that cuts deep into the history of Arab society. .. What the men of the family, clan, or tribe seek control of in a patrilineal society is reproductive power. Women for the tribe were considered a factory for making men. The honor killing is not a means to control sexual power or behavior. What's behind it is the issue of fertility, or reproductive power.

Here's a beter source...

Gendercide Watch

"Honour" killings of women (and occasionally their male "partners in crime") reflect longstanding patriarchal-tribal traditions. In a "bizarre duality," women are viewed "on the one hand as fragile creatures who need protection and on the other as evil Jezebels from whom society needs protection." Patriarchal tradition "casts the male as the sole protector of the female so he must have total control of her. If his protection is violated, he loses honour because either he failed to protect her or he failed to bring her up correctly." (Armstrong, "Honour's Victims.") Clearly, the vulnerability of women around the world to this type of violence will only be reduced when these patriarchal mindsets are challenged and effectively confronted.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I don't just say things definitive like that because I like to type. I look shit up.

[Rev.Reverence]

Sharia law outlaws Honor killings.

Historically, they come from the tribal Arabic and Hindu cultures.

I know it's not a great source but..

Wiki on Honor Killing

Here's a beter source...

Gendercide Watch

Cool...I can't look up every thing...I did not know it had any Hindi background.