Guest GodfallenPromos Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 no... you can't explain to those who don't want to understand. But i will say that changing is a BIG part of being in a relationship, and a lot of individuals are afraid of change, or don't want to for whatever reason, ....and like you said, change can be good. I personally LOVE change. It comes with experience. Indeed...another thing that needs to be expressed is proper patience. Impatient people often don't do well in relationships, because they want everything NOW, or SOON...and thats not just the way life, or relationships, are.
asphyxian_doll Posted July 27, 2008 Author Posted July 27, 2008 Indeed...another thing that needs to be expressed is proper patience. Impatient people often don't do well in relationships, because they want everything NOW, or SOON...and thats not just the way life, or relationships, are. pretty much :|
Homicidalheathen Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 according to scientists its brain chemicals and that can make ya a lil odd
Scales Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 Unconditional love is still alive in adulthood I agree. What I'm getting at is the idea that there is a child, adult, and parent in the physche; and that unconditional love is primarily from the child aspect of the physche.
freydis Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 hmmm...interesting. Blind-folded would be a good way to put it. Loving someone else often has repercussions that no one really considers in the start. We're raked up in the beginning, like leaves in a yard, and tend to pile much of ourselves, mentally and emotionally, on another human being. This happens whether or not we think it is. The strain of such baggage takes it toll, and a sign of TRUE love is the ability to handle the issues each person in the relationship has, as well as your own. This happens both as a couple, and individuals. Can you change for the person your with? Will you? Can you be better then what you are? Don't just ask yourself, ask your partner as well. It's not a sin to ask someone to change for the better...it is only a sin to ask them to change for the worse, or to look the other way. Now, before anyone goes off on the "if they love you, they won't ask you to change" rant, because I know it's out there....sit back and consider that a relationship with TRUE love in it isn't just about living, loving, and dying for that person, but making the personal sacrifices, both physically & mentally, that need to be made so that the relationship can last. I'm not asking anyone to give up their lives, but with love comes wisdom and understanding.....and sacrifice. Love isnt changing for the person youre with because they want you to or ask you to.... love, is when you just DO. Besides, this is something we naturally do as people, anyway. We are constantly changed by the people we interact with. The deeper the interaction, the deeper the change.
Oh_My_Goth Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 It seems to me, that a lot of people i know, don't know what they want.Or they DO and its so unrealistic, that you just want to slap them upside the feckin head! My point here is.....is love really blind? or feckin bi-polar? I know of instances where someone "claims" they are in LOVE and will never let the person go... But then that self doubt, insecurity, and distrust plays in.....shit happens and they break up! bi-polar much? If love is blind, then it should be able to overcome these things....but in my honest opinion...i don't think the majority of people in AMERICA let alone this PLANET really know, or have felt true, unconditional love.... Its a sad thing to think about, and id like some opinions on it. Am i wrong? and I would love to know if i am.... set this in retrospect. Most "love" people feel seems to Me to be strictly self serving..... People I meet have these outrageous ideals of the 'perfect' life for themselves, witch seem to change on a 'cases to case' basis.....They go from person to person to person, and even then never seem to ever be happy..... I believe they like it that way..... They like to suffer; to have every problem they create for themselves be somebody else's fault..... I call SHENANIGANS!!!!! Love is pure, natural, raw..... It's about compromise & understanding..... It is so basic that most people miss it in their everyday lives..... So.....Is love blind????? In a sense, a bit..... Is it Bi-Polar????? Yes, on a daily basis.....But with a bit more balance than that..... Does it make sense????? Only to those involved..... All in all, my outlook on love is: We are all capable of it, but most of you are blind to it.....
TitsMcGee Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 To me love is the beginning of hate. You search and search for that one person and are let down many times in the process. I think "true love" is a disney fantasy that was shoved down all little girls throats at birth.
Oh_My_Goth Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 To me love is the beginning of hate. You search and search for that one person and are let down many times in the process. I think "true love" is a disney fantasy that was shoved down all little girls throats at birth. IMO, love is not something that is found.....It is something you stumble upon in the middle of it all..... Usually right when you stop looking.....Or not expecting it..... {But that's just my view after a lifetime of ups & downs.....I love them both.....} Plus it is Me belief that 'true love'/'the one' can happen again and again and again in many cases..... It is all in how we look at life & what we are dealt...... i am a half full kinda Gal.....
TitsMcGee Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 i am a half full kinda Gal..... I'm trying to be but it's getting harder with every heart break
Oh_My_Goth Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 I'm trying to be but it's getting harder with every heart break Poopie..... I DO understand..... I have, at times, have a hard time being the 'half full' person.....
creatureofthenyte Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 Well, I've been in love before, and I've also had lots of great sex. I think of the sex as great, because I was mutually in love with the woman when we had sex. Two people in love with each other having sex, it doesn't get much better then that. So, if both of those things never happen to me again, I can die a happy man, because Ive experienced both in my lifetime.
TygerLili Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 I think "infatuation" gets mislabeled as "love". I think it happens all the time, actually. You can't love someone after a few days. I know many will disagree with me here, but you have to know someone to love them. The best definition I've heard for love, thus far, is: Love is when you genuinely adore and want to be with someone, even at their worst. When you can look at your significant other, when they're sick and sleep deprived and crabby, and throwing up, and haven't showered in two days, and are yelling at you simply because they feel miserable, and still think to yourself "I love this person." then you really do. That said, just because you love someone, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll be with them forever. It takes more than just love...
Der Nister Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 Love is many things to many people. It has a definition that is widely accepted by most of us but there are also those that will agree that it must take different 'forms' in order to work in different situations. Love can be what you make it or love can be what you think it should be. But all in all - when you feel true unconditional love you will absolutely know it and not have to ask the question "what is love?"
BlackHound Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Both with my last ex. I was the blind one because I did see that she was using me. With her bi-polar was a under statement.
Enishi Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Well, I've been in love before, and I've also had lots of great sex. I think of the sex as great, because I was mutually in love with the woman when we had sex. Two people in love with each other having sex, it doesn't get much better then that. So, if both of those things never happen to me again, I can die a happy man, because Ive experienced both in my lifetime. I thinks this is actually a very good attitude to take. Oftentimes trying to force a recurrence of good experiences can bring more harm than good.
asphyxian_doll Posted July 29, 2008 Author Posted July 29, 2008 Most "love" people feel seems to Me to be strictly self serving.....People I meet have these outrageous ideals of the 'perfect' life for themselves, witch seem to change on a 'cases to case' basis.....They go from person to person to person, and even then never seem to ever be happy..... I believe they like it that way..... They like to suffer; to have every problem they create for themselves be somebody else's fault..... I call SHENANIGANS!!!!! Love is pure, natural, raw..... It's about compromise & understanding..... It is so basic that most people miss it in their everyday lives..... So.....Is love blind????? In a sense, a bit..... Is it Bi-Polar????? Yes, on a daily basis.....But with a bit more balance than that..... Does it make sense????? Only to those involved..... All in all, my outlook on love is: We are all capable of it, but most of you are blind to it..... wow, now that i can relate to.
asphyxian_doll Posted July 29, 2008 Author Posted July 29, 2008 I think "infatuation" gets mislabeled as "love". I think it happens all the time, actually. You can't love someone after a few days. I know many will disagree with me here, but you have to know someone to love them. The best definition I've heard for love, thus far, is: Love is when you genuinely adore and want to be with someone, even at their worst. When you can look at your significant other, when they're sick and sleep deprived and crabby, and throwing up, and haven't showered in two days, and are yelling at you simply because they feel miserable, and still think to yourself "I love this person." then you really do. That said, just because you love someone, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll be with them forever. It takes more than just love... I've been there
asphyxian_doll Posted July 29, 2008 Author Posted July 29, 2008 Love is many things to many people. It has a definition that is widely accepted by most of us but there are also those that will agree that it must take different 'forms' in order to work in different situations.Love can be what you make it or love can be what you think it should be. But all in all - when you feel true unconditional love you will absolutely know it and not have to ask the question "what is love?" And again, I agree. you guyyyyyzzzz!!!!!! your making me all happy and fuzzy! ITS LOVE!
Guest GodfallenPromos Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 And again, I agree. you guyyyyyzzzz!!!!!! your making me all happy and fuzzy! ITS LOVE! either that....or your Alf and FINALLY ate the cat....
Oh_My_Goth Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 And again, I agree. you guyyyyyzzzz!!!!!! your making me all happy and fuzzy! ITS LOVE! Glad to help.....
DarkChylde Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 I agree with hunee. What is really the point of keeping up with this crap these days. Now i choose to live the single life because to me it makes more sense and less drama to deal with. We all fuck to survive and move on to the next. thats how reality is and always will be. Love is just something we all hear in fairy tales we all grew up hearing since we were small children. in order to be more happy you also have to accept the real world. Even I learned this lesson myself a couple years back.
asphyxian_doll Posted July 31, 2008 Author Posted July 31, 2008 I agree with hunee.What is really the point of keeping up with this crap these days. Now i choose to live the single life because to me it makes more sense and less drama to deal with. We all fuck to survive and move on to the next. thats how reality is and always will be. Love is just something we all hear in fairy tales we all grew up hearing since we were small children. in order to be more happy you also have to accept the real world. Even I learned this lesson myself a couple years back. The real world.... Love is something you are born with, not something you get from some fairy tail relationship, or a nice home with nice parents in a nice neighborhood, it exists and sex isn't all we have. Accepting the real world, hmm there is a fine line between accepting what IS, and accepting what is beating you down and giving up. Love is universal, and very much apart of everyone's life, outside of this hallmark interpretation of it.
torn asunder Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Love is just something we all hear in fairy tales we all grew up hearing since we were small children. in order to be more happy you also have to accept the real world. Even I learned this lesson myself a couple years back. i used to think the same thing...
DarkChylde Posted August 3, 2008 Posted August 3, 2008 The real world.... Love is something you are born with, not something you get from some fairy tail relationship, or a nice home with nice parents in a nice neighborhood, it exists and sex isn't all we have. Accepting the real world, hmm there is a fine line between accepting what IS, and accepting what is beating you down and giving up. Love is universal, and very much apart of everyone's life, outside of this hallmark interpretation of it. Are you suggesting that im simply insecure? Anyways all I know is we all have different point of view and we see things differently. I dont expect anyone to agree nor disagree. If you want to believe in love then thats fine, ya can go knock yourself out. To tell the truth yes being in love has chewed me up and spit me out in the past, but thats the past though. Now-a-days im alot more happy with what I got and what I can do. I may not have no gilrfriend but its sure not depressing me one bit. I guess if I was to be in love then I probaly would be in love with rosie-palmer and other lustful activities that comes my way from other females sometimes. LOL yes im a very sick person, but atleast I can say is im honest and I dont lead others on.
asphyxian_doll Posted August 4, 2008 Author Posted August 4, 2008 Are you suggesting that im simply insecure? Anyways all I know is we all have different point of view and we see things differently. I dont expect anyone to agree nor disagree. If you want to believe in love then thats fine, ya can go knock yourself out. To tell the truth yes being in love has chewed me up and spit me out in the past, but thats the past though. Now-a-days im alot more happy with what I got and what I can do. I may not have no gilrfriend but its sure not depressing me one bit. I guess if I was to be in love then I probaly would be in love with rosie-palmer and other lustful activities that comes my way from other females sometimes. LOL yes im a very sick person, but atleast I can say is im honest and I dont lead others on. I never suggested you were insecure, but i can assume such if you'd like, seeing as you decided to bring that up. I simply stated a fact, which you don't have to agree with. And was also stating my opinion of love, in retrospect to what you had to say. I'm glad your content with what you have achieved.
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