Left-Wing..Right-Wing...It's all the same fuckin' Bird..

[Rev.Reverence]

Who here thinks that there is a possibility that BOTH of our glorious parties are mere PUPPETS?

That ALL the issues are CARDS... just CARDS... it's like they are playing Magic cards.. & we are the prize.

That they are ALL playing a big game... with the world.

?

[n0Mad]

If this country was run the way our forefathers had intended, then yes, our government should be puppets. Puppets of the people. Our government does not give or restrict the people's liberties. Rather, it's the other way around. The people are free and have certain inalienable rights granted to us by our creator (whoever that may be in your religion). Our Constitution and Bill of Rights protects those pre-existing, individual rights. The government comes from the people and should only have as much power as the people grants it. Yes, our leaders should be puppets; our puppets.

Unfortunately, that's not the way things work. Once you give somebody power, they are loathe to give it up and just seek more.

[Rev.Reverence]

If this country was run the way our forefathers had intended, then yes, our government should be puppets. Puppets of the people. Our government does not give or restrict the people's liberties. Rather, it's the other way around. The people are free and have certain inalienable rights granted to us by our creator (whoever that may be in your religion). Our Constitution and Bill of Rights protects those pre-existing, individual rights. The government comes from the people and should only have as much power as the people grants it. Yes, our leaders should be puppets; our puppets.

Unfortunately, that's not the way things work. Once you give somebody power, they are loathe to give it up and just seek more.

[SaGa]

also the country was formed bye federalists. the parties after the federalists where not fond of the constitution.

[freydis]

I think in this election, it's not going to matter who wins. Either way, we're going down......

[Rev.Reverence]

I think in this election, it's not going to matter who wins. Either way, we're going down......

That's what I'm seeing... like, everyone involved is a little too 'perfect' of a representation of the side they represent... each with a smooth & glossy veneer... to face at the opposition... in order to get the cross votes... I see it as a confusion tactic.

[Enishi]

I think both parties are indeed mostly puppets to the corporatist oligarchs and banking cartels

[Hellion]

Blame those huge corporations for alot of what goes on.oil companies the media giants,etc etc etc.

[Oh_My_Goth]

They're Heeaarre.....

[ttogreh]

Vote Bob Barr. He's the Libertarian. If he gets more than five per cent of the vote, his party will get matching funds. What does that mean? Well, it means that Paper or Plastic will win the White House, spend the next two years cleaning up the Shrub's mess, and then have to deal with maybe ten to thirty Libertarian congress people in the 2010 mid-term elections.

It would mean a balanced budget by 2012.

Of course, it can't happen if you don't vote Bob Barr. And it certainly won't happen if you just say "that's nice, it'll never happen"...

[Oh_My_Goth]

Vote Bob Barr. He's the Libertarian. If he gets more than five per cent of the vote, his party will get matching funds. What does that mean? Well, it means that Paper or Plastic will win the White House, spend the next two years cleaning up the Shrub's mess, and then have to deal with maybe ten to thirty Libertarian congress people in the 2010 mid-term elections.

It would mean a balanced budget by 2012.

Of course, it can't happen if you don't vote Bob Barr. And it certainly won't happen if you just say "that's nice, it'll never happen"...

I would love to believe a vote for him would actually make a difference, but an off party vote useually supports the republicans, from what I have seen.....

{In all actuality, I have questioned the impact of the peoples vote for a long time}

{{Do we really matter?????}}

[ttogreh]

The Republican are the Democrats. The Democrats are the Republicans. Saying that "third parties tend to support the Ds/Rs" is like saying that "third parties tend to breathe air".

[Rev.Reverence]

Vote Bob Barr. He's the Libertarian. If he gets more than five per cent of the vote, his party will get matching funds. What does that mean? Well, it means that Paper or Plastic will win the White House, spend the next two years cleaning up the Shrub's mess, and then have to deal with maybe ten to thirty Libertarian congress people in the 2010 mid-term elections.

It would mean a balanced budget by 2012.

Of course, it can't happen if you don't vote Bob Barr. And it certainly won't happen if you just say "that's nice, it'll never happen"...

I have only heard about this guy once. But I am totally looking into it... I was going this way in the Spring...

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

How extreme a Libertarian is he?

[ttogreh]

What does it matter, as long as he gets at least five per cent of the vote?

[Guest GodfallenPromos]

What does it matter, as long as he gets at least five per cent of the vote?

thats kinda like saying that it doesn't matter if a Republican is a conservative or a liberal, as long as he is a Republican, ttogreh.

I wouldn't vote on a person just to give them a percentage...I would vote on who I believe to be the best for the job...or the lesser of two evils....not to give Bill a better shot in the future, especially if I don't agree with his standings....thats a rather ignorant way to vote.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Good point.

[freydis]

I seem to remember hearing some *really* unsavory things about Barr in the past..... if I recall, he's got a serious problem with alternative religions, too.

I really dont know *who* im voting for.

At this point, I am so disgusted, I'm tempted to write in Alfred E Neuman.

[freydis]

Wow..... go do a little reading on Bob Barr.

NO.

If you're uncomfortable with Palin, you definately would be uncomfortable with this man's history.

[phee]

"Libertarians believe that consenting adults have the right to do whatever they choose except ban together" - Emo Philips

[SaGa]

"Libertarians believe that consenting adults have the right to do whatever they choose except ban together" - Emo Philips

does this mean sex is out of the question? cause that in my mind is ban togeather. or perhaps that might just mean groupsex. hehe i kid i kid

[Rev.Reverence]

Wow..... go do a little reading on Bob Barr.

NO.

If you're uncomfortable with Palin, you definately would be uncomfortable with this man's history.

Point me somewhere... I will go & dig up some things... to "DISCUSS"...

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Anyone that likes Obama or Hilary... any Democrat for that matter.. would never like a Libertarian.

[Fin]

Anyone that likes Obama or Hilary... any Democrat for that matter.. would never like a Libertarian.

En guarde!

I like them both, & have voted libertarian.

[Rev.Reverence]

Anyone that likes Obama or Hilary... any Democrat for that matter.. would never like a Libertarian.

Can you possibly explain that statement?

You used the "N" word... it confused me...