I saw a fox

[Homicidalheathen]

at 1 am

he almost ran right under my tire

NOT a coyote...a fox!

this is only the second time in my life

i know they are not indigenous to michigan but it still seemed very special

http://www.linsdomain.com/totems/pages/fox.htm

Fox: Celtic Pagan Symbol

Fox represents cunning, wildness and diplomacy. She also is a warning to keep one’s counsel, when to hold silence and when to break silence by quietly observing situations, then deciding what words to use. Fox, like Coyote is also seen as trickster. Because Fox is most often seen at the Between Times, dawn and dusk, she is seen as a guide into the Faerie Realm.

The Welsh regard seeing one Fox as a good luck omen, sighting several at one time is ill luck. They believed that witches could transform themselves into Foxes. During the Middle Ages, Fox represented the Devil.

Native American Pagan Symbol

Fox represents shapeshifting, being invisible and the female magick of camouflage. Her power cycle is dawn, dusk and at night. She has a long positive history of magick and its associated cunning.

Cherokees believed Fox could prevent frostbite. Apaches legend is that Fox killed the evil bear and stuck her tail into fire, stealing its flame for the people. The Choctaw’s belief is that Fox protected family unity.

Fox teaches how to gain confidence in one’s ability to see into the near future and to use camouflage in observing what is happening in the present.

http://paganismwicca.suite101.com/article....mbol_camouflage

[Destroit]

Utica? Damn.

Utica and what? Out of curiosity.

Raven and I were driving down the service drive for I-696 and there's many foreclosed houses that line it. Sure enough we're driving, I'm looking out the window, and in the backyard of an abandoned house at fucking TEN MILE there was a DEER! Am not shitting you. It was on the border for Roseville/Warren...well most definately in Warren if you want technicalities about it.

[jynxxxedangel]

I saw a RING-NECKED PHEASANT come strolling out of an burnt-out building off Brush years ago, while sitting at an intersection. One of the weirdest things I've ever seen.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I'm kinda surprised you have only ever seena Fox twice... there are far more Fox in Michigan that people realize.

[Destroit]

I saw a RING-NECKED PHEASANT come strolling out of an burnt-out building off Brush years ago, while sitting at an intersection. One of the weirdest things I've ever seen.

Naw..it's Detroit. I've seen weirder. And by weirder I mean a free-roaming goat.

[jynxxxedangel]

Naw..it's Detroit. I've seen weirder. And by weirder I mean a free-roaming goat.

Some ethnic people were probably pretty upset over their barbeque escaping! Where the fuck did you see a GOAT running loose down there?

[Homicidalheathen]

it was right by 18 mile road and was quite a bit bigger than the one I saw as a kid...almost thought it was one of these but they are extinct

red wolf

fox

i swear it looked more like a red wolf it was not small...maybe as big as a full grown collie

collie

did yoy know rhino's are almost extinct?

[Destroit]

it was right by 18 mile road and was quite a bit bigger than the one I saw as a kid...almost thought it was one of these but they are extinct

red wolf

fox

i swear it looked more like a red wolf it was not small...maybe as big as a full grown collie

collie

did yoy know rhino's are almost extinct?

Mmmhmm

And polar bears most definately will be extinct in my lifetime also.

[jynxxxedangel]

Are you sure it wasn't a coyote, HH? They are more foxy-looking than wolfy. Notice the rather large ears.

[taysteewonderbunny]

Yeah, I thought I saw a fox too, on Lakeshore, but it was in fact a coyote. Later captured and relocated. They do look foxlike.

[taysteewonderbunny]

[taysteewonderbunny]

More on coyotes, in Michigan, from the DNR website.

Michigan Coyote Facts

Where can you find coyotes in Michigan?

Coyotes are found throughout the state. They are most abundant in the Upper and northern Lower Peninsulas. Coyote numbers decrease in the central and southern portions of the Lower Peninsula. Coyotes have dispersed into southern Michigan without assistance from the DNR

This member of the dog family is extremely adaptable and survives in virtually all habitat types common in Michigan. They are most abundant in areas where adequate food, cover and water are available. Urban areas can also support coyotes. The size of a coyote’s home range depends on the food and cover resources available and on the number of other coyotes in an area, but it generally averages between 8 and 12 square miles. Mated pairs and 4-7 recently born pups occupy the home range during the spring and summer seasons in Michigan..

How do I distinguish a coyote from other dog species?

Coyotes can be difficult to distinguish from a medium-sized German shepherd dog from a distance. There is a wide variation in the coyote’s color, but generally their upper body is yellowish gray, and the fur covering the throat and belly is white to cream color. The coyote’s ears are pointed and stand erect, unlike the ears of domestic dogs that often droop. When observed running, coyotes carry their bushy, black-tipped tail below the level of their back. Wolves, which are found in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula, are larger than coyotes and carry their tail in a horizontal position while running. The size and weight of coyotes are commonly overestimated, because their long fur masks a bone structure that is slighter than that of most domestic dogs. Click here for distinguishing differences between coyotes and wolves.

When are Coyotes most likely to be seen?

People are most likely to see coyotes during their breeding period, which occurs in Michigan from mid-January into March. As fall approaches, pups begin dispersing from the den site to establish home ranges of their own. These young dispersing animals sometimes wander into urban areas. Coyotes are active day and night/ however, peaks in activity occur at sunrise and sunset. Coyotes generally feed at night.

What is the life expectancy of a coyote?

Coyotes can often live six to eight years in the wild. Various forms of natural mortality include disease, predation, and starvation. However, hunting, trapping and vehicle collisions are common causes of coyote mortality. Approximately 50-70% of juvenile coyotes do not reach adulthood. Annual adult mortality averages 30-50%. Coyotes can compensate for severe reductions in population numbers by breeding at younger ages and by having larger litters.

What do coyotes eat?

Coyotes are opportunistic and will eat almost anything available. Small mammals such as mice, voles, shrews, rabbits, hares, and squirrels are preferred foods. However, insects, fruits, berries, birds, frogs, snakes, plants, and seeds round out their diet. In areas with high deer numbers, carrion resulting from vehicle-deer collisions, natural causes, and crippling losses is an important source of food. In urban areas, coyotes are attracted to garbage, garden vegetables, and pet food. They will also prey on unattended small dogs and cats, if opportunities exist. Some coyotes learn to kill smaller livestock, such as sheep, goats, calves and poultry. Larger animals are almost always consumed as carrion.

Do coyotes present any danger people?

Coyotes rarely attack humans. Bites from snakes, rodents, and domestic doges are a far greater possibility than coyote bites, according to public health authorities. Coyotes that are fed become accustomed to people and present a human safety risk. People should never intentionally feed or attempt to tame coyotes. It is in the best interest of both coyotes and humans if coyotes retain their instinctive fear of people. The following important points can help minimize potential conflicts with coyotes:

* Never approach or touch a coyote

* Never intentionally feed a coyote

* Eliminate all outside food sources, especially pet foods

* Put garbage out the morning of pickup day

* Clear out wood and brush piles; they are good habitat for rats and mice and may attract coyotes

* Good husbandry practices, guard animals, and coyote control measures can help to protect livestock

* Do no allow pets t roam free when coyotes are present

o Consider keeping pets indoors or accompany them outside

Who should I contact if I have coyote depredation problems?

The following agencies or businesses can be contacted for advice or assistance if coyote depredation becomes a problem:

United States Department of Agriculture, Wildlife Service

Michigan Department of Natural Resources

Animal Damage Control Businesses

County Animal Control Units

Visit www.aphis.usda.gov/ws for more information on coyotes.

Click here for more on distinguishing coyotes from wolves.

[Simon Bar Sinister]

Utica? Damn.

Utica and what? Out of curiosity.

Raven and I were driving down the service drive for I-696 and there's many foreclosed houses that line it. Sure enough we're driving, I'm looking out the window, and in the backyard of an abandoned house at fucking TEN MILE there was a DEER! Am not shitting you. It was on the border for Roseville/Warren...well most definately in Warren if you want technicalities about it.

The sherrif dept. took down a 12-point buck near the GM Tech Center, what - 3 or 4 years back? Something like that.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Mmmhmm

And polar bears most definately will be extinct in my lifetime also.

Did you know that in 1972 that there were only about 500 Polar Bear in the wild?

There are over 20,000 now and the numbers are growing.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Michigan has Red Fox in very high numbers. Is this what you saw?

[LadyKay]

Come up and visit Imlay City. We have lots of wild things here.

[Hellion]

Then how about some Lions Tigers and Bears Oh My!!!

[Fin]

Greetings fellow wolf/fox/coyote lovers!

Here's a clip from a guilty-pleasure movie I love.

I always--ALWAYS--start laughing when the fox starts singing.

[TitsMcGee]

The sherrif dept. took down a 12-point buck near the GM Tech Center, what - 3 or 4 years back? Something like that.

WTF, I can't even find a 12 pointer up home when I go hunting. And I'm on 180 acers of land!

[Msterbeau]

The sherrif dept. took down a 12-point buck near the GM Tech Center, what - 3 or 4 years back? Something like that.

When I was in Ferndale a couple years ago, my neighbor had a doe in their backyard. Their fenced in backyard. Saw one last Fall taking my girls to school in a neighbors front yard, in the middle of Southfield.

I've seen fox numerous times around the Metro Detroit area..

[Homicidalheathen]

it was grey but had a red tail