Racism

[freydis]

How is this a difference?

Not following here...

If someone calls their issues with say.... Asians, not a social disease like sexism... but instead they are personal flaws and faults, what makes one point of view a personal issue, and another a social disease?

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[Mean Salley]

smrtness.

Let any of those blokes go hungry for a little while and then toss them some fried wonton, we'll see who's really a hardcore white supremacist.

Do they realize that they're damning themselves to life without samosas, general tso's chicken, shawarmas, gyros tempura, bee bim bap, angira, egg rolls, pastelios, arroz y gondules, jerk goat. palak paneer...

whatever

more for me.

[SeraphBastille]

again, do you really have no fundamental comprehension skils, or are you being purposefully contentious? there is literally no way to directly correlate what you call "outside influence" and "hate". they are not directly, specifically equal. the sooner you recognize this, the sooner you can try to move on to an argument that might hold water.

in the meantime, you're making yourself appear a fool.

*rolls eyes*...ok...lets try to make this simple for you....OUTSIDE INFLUENCES, that are ROOTED IN HATE...because you can't comprehend that idea....are responsible for the majority of racist ideals. The small bit of the racist ideals that come from "internal conflict" are still rooted IN Hate.

so...to go over the VERY SIMPLE THING THAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG....in hopes that MAYBE you'll get it this time.....though I am starting to doubt that....is that the OUTSIDE INFLUENCES are NOT EQUAL TO Hate, but that HATE is the root OF them....something can be the ROOT of the problem without being equal to it's branches.

ok....are you done looking like a fool?....I am really tired of dumbing this down for all of you.

[phee]

*rolls eyes*...ok...lets try to make this simple for you....OUTSIDE INFLUENCES, that are ROOTED IN HATE...because you can't comprehend that idea....are responsible for the majority of racist ideals. The small bit of the racist ideals that come from "internal conflict" are still rooted IN Hate.

so...to go over the VERY SIMPLE THING THAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG....in hopes that MAYBE you'll get it this time.....though I am starting to doubt that....is that the OUTSIDE INFLUENCES are NOT EQUAL TO Hate, but that HATE is the root OF them....something can be the ROOT of the problem without being equal to it's branches.

ok....are you done looking like a fool?....I am really tired of dumbing this down for all of you.

I do profoundly apologize but I am really not getting this.

I am sure the point you are making is very simple to you... but I must be missing something.

[Rev.Reverence]

smrtness.

Let any of those blokes go hungry for a little while and then toss them some fried wonton, we'll see who's really a hardcore white supremacist.

Do they realize that they're damning themselves to life without samosas, general tso's chicken, shawarmas, gyros tempura, bee bim bap, angira, egg rolls, pastelios, arroz y gondules, jerk goat. palak paneer...

whatever

more for me.

YOU ROCK DUDE!!!

Great post!

(You gonna' finish that Gyro?)

[Rev.Reverence]

*rolls eyes*...ok...lets try to make this simple for you....OUTSIDE INFLUENCES, that are ROOTED IN HATE...because you can't comprehend that idea....are responsible for the majority of racist ideals. The small bit of the racist ideals that come from "internal conflict" are still rooted IN Hate.

so...to go over the VERY SIMPLE THING THAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG....in hopes that MAYBE you'll get it this time.....though I am starting to doubt that....is that the OUTSIDE INFLUENCES are NOT EQUAL TO Hate, but that HATE is the root OF them....something can be the ROOT of the problem without being equal to it's branches.

ok....are you done looking like a fool?....I am really tired of dumbing this down for all of you.

*buzzer*

Hate is not the root...Ignorance is the root...if ya'll READ my post you may know that by now...

[SeraphBastille]

I do profoundly apologize but I am really not getting this.

I am sure the point you are making is very simple to you... but I must be missing something.

It's like a math problem, when your going to find the square root of something. The Square root of 4 is 2, but 4 is not EQUAL to 2, which is what everyone seems to be thinking. You cannot get to 4 without 2...2 is the ROOT, and therefore the Primary Feeding SOURCE of 4

The square root of Racism is Hate, but Racism is not EQUAL to Hate (meaning that it is not EQUAL to it's root). You cannot get to Racism without Hate, Hate is the ROOT, and therefore the Primary Feeding SOURCE of Racism.

ok...does that make it easier??

[Rev.Reverence]

I'll try this one...(& I try to stay short)..."racism" starts with prejudice; then when this prejudice is acted upon it becomes discrimination...

..no matter if the prejudice is based in anger or fear.....it is an ignorant inclination..

..if the inclination to pre-judgment is acted upon (discrimination occurs) that is a decision.. MAKING THAT DECISION THERE IS WHAT HATE YOU ARE ALL LOOKING FOR.....

I do think that is all...?sorry it took me so long to formulate that...

*bump my response*

I don't think anyone saw it...other than Raev...

[SeraphBastille]

*buzzer*

Hate is not the root...Ignorance is the root...if ya'll READ my post you may know that by now...

Ignorance is just a sub-root side source...it is not the Heart-Root.

[phee]

*buzzer*

Hate is not the root...Ignorance is the root...if ya'll READ my post you may know that by now...

+1

[Rev.Reverence]

Ignorance is just a sub-root side source...it is not the Heart-Root.

Did you read the post I made .?...I'll shorten it for you...HATE is not the root.

"racism" starts with prejudice.

then when this prejudice is acted upon it becomes discrimination...

..no matter if the prejudice is based in anger or fear.....it is an ignorant inclination..

..if the inclination to pre-judgment is acted upon (discrimination occurs) that is a decision

[SeraphBastille]

Did you read the post I made .?...I'll shorten it for you...HATE is not the root.

"no matter if the prejudice is based in anger or fear.....it is an ignorant inclination"

thats arguementative...one can easily argue that ignorance, hate, OR fear are roots for like...half the social diseases. However, as the majority of racial slurs, racial propaganda, and racial attacks are done to either CREATE fear, or are overly violent, I still site Hate as it's root.

[GothicRavenGoddess (3)]

if it weren't for ignorance, unnecessary hate and fear wouldn't exist. Argue all you want, Rev. is completely right in this one.

I swear. its just freaking skin color and hair color and eye color... we are all the same damn color under the skin!

Edit: said "damn" twice.. oops... and to add "and fear" to my post...

[Rev.Reverence]

"no matter if the prejudice is based in anger or fear.....it is an ignorant inclination"

thats arguementative...one can easily argue that ignorance, hate, OR fear are roots for like...half the social diseases. However, as the majority of racial slurs, racial propaganda, and racial attacks are done to either CREATE fear, or are overly violent, I still site Hate as it's root.

I am not sure what word that is SUPPOSED to be...

..ignorance is in fact where fear & like wise hate come from....

..if you do not know something the first Human reaction is to fear it... then to hate it...for what ever reasons...ignorance is the Enemy of Humanity...it has us at each others throats down through History...even the Nazi party was found upon it (ignorance)... the German people did not know why their society was failing...so A.H. blamed the Jews & Gypsy peoples...

...fight ignorance & you fight what ails this sad rock.

[phee]

Fear creates fear...

Ignorance creates Fear, hatred, intolerence

[Rev.Reverence]

if it weren't for ignorance, unnecessary hate wouldn't exist. Argue all you want, Rev. is completely right in this one.

I swear. its just freaking skin color and hair color and eye color... we are all the damn damn color under the skin!

*bowing-curtsy*

[Rev.Reverence]

Fear creates fear...

Ignorance creates Fear, hatred, intolerence

It is simple a math...ya?

Then we should take it to the peoples of the world...

*walks off to have a smoke & start writing some lyrics*

[SeraphBastille]

if it weren't for ignorance, unnecessary hate wouldn't exist. Argue all you want, Rev. is completely right in this one.

I swear. its just freaking skin color and hair color and eye color... we are all the damn damn color under the skin!

and the arguements that are being made, currently by university professors around the world, is that you are only ignorant of what you fear, and you fear things you hate because they are different, going back to phees remark about categorization.

I think I'll side with the university professors on this one.

[phee]

Another way to look at this...

Ignorance is an abscence of knowledge and/or understanding about something agreed? (*nod everyone... k thanks*)

Hatred is well... self explanitory....

Racism cannot exist without Ignorance...

[GothicRavenGoddess (3)]

we are people! a different color doesn't mean a different speicies! you cut the flesh, it bleeds red. you dig deep, the fat is yellow... you look around inside, the tissue is all the damn same... there are differences, and then there are DIFFERENCES... (as in different species)

Don't dislike a man because he's black (for example), hate him cuz he beats his wife. and don't say "he beats his wife because he's black" no, he does it because his daddy beat his mommy and he grew up thinking it was right, becuase of ignorance.

you gonna like me, cuz I look white? that's only the skin.. want to know the truth? my dad, my genetic donar was mixed with black, indian, and white...

with that being said, still think I'm sexy and sweet, and beautiful, and fun?

and if you don't because you feel that you are genetically superior to me, because what is under my skin, and in my blood... then hate yourself.... no blood line is "pure" none.

we are one species, homo sapien. and hate me all you want. those that love me, or at least respect me, are the only ones that matter.

i don't hate someone for color, i hate them for who they are. for how they act and treat others. i could care less about their color, or genetic background... i don't give a shit about that... never did... and I never will...

[Rev.Reverence]

and the arguements that are being made, currently by university professors around the world, is that you are only ignorant of what you fear, and you fear things you hate because they are different, going back to phees remark about categorization.

I think I'll side with the university professors on this one.

No...it is basic psychology D---... ignorance simply means not knowing something... you can not hate it yet... you do not know it... since you do not know it, you fear it...after about .001 second of fear, you may now hate it... as you know 1 thing about it.it scares you...

You need to stop.. accept that you read misread something... I study these things... for fun & enlightenment.

[GothicRavenGoddess (3)]

No...it is basic psychology D---... ignorance simply means not knowing something... you can not hate it yet... you do not know it... since you do not know it, you fear it...after about .001 second of fear, you may now hate it... as you know 1 thing about it.it scares you...

You need to stop.. accept that you read misread something... I study these things... for fun & enlightenment.

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[SeraphBastille]

Another way to look at this...

Ignorance is an abscence of knowledge and/or understanding about something agreed? (*nod everyone... k thanks*)

Hatred is well... self explanitory....

Racism cannot exist without Ignorance...

well..how about the words of an expert then?....would you take the words of Alex Haley?, author of the famous Roots

Well, if you go back to before mankind came out of the cave, there was hatred. We are really talking about the same thing. Racism and hatred are synonymous. But then, as far as I know, as far as I’ve studied or heard or picked up, it seems that this type of thing is a curse against mankind.

If you think about it, there’s not a religious group, there’s not a nationalistic group, there’s not a tribe, there is no grouping of people to my knowledge, of any consequence, who have not, at one or another time, been the object of hatred

your not the only one that studies things Rev.

[Rev.Reverence]

we are people! a different color doesn't mean a different speicies! you cut the flesh, it bleeds red. you dig deep, the fat is yellow... you look around inside, the tissue is all the damn same... there are differences, and then there are DIFFERENCES... (as in different species)

EW...did you have to send the mental visuals with the comment?

we are one species, homo sapien. ^{I disagree...(totally another topic)}

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& GRG...GFP/SB is not a racist... at all... he is simply arguing what he thinks is the cause of it...

(Just havin' my cousin's back)

[GothicRavenGoddess (3)]

oh i know that, sweetie... i didn't say they were... never thought it for a second. (i didn't read all that was posted... i couldn't, or I'd throw the computer screan...) this subject just angers me... and i was sayng my peice. and as far as the graphic visual, lol i have no issue with seing a man's inside. lol so sorry if it made ya ill.