Racism

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well..how about the words of an expert then?....would you take the words of Alex Haley?, author of the famous Roots

your not the only one that studies things Rev.

SO...hate just...bink...happens?

Alex has a nice resume... he is not a doctor nor a sociology specialist...he is a wrighter...so are allot of peoples...

I'm gonna' go get you some real hard FACTS.

[SeraphBastille]

& GRG...GFP/SB is not a racist... at all... he is simply arguing what he thinks is the cause of it...

(Just havin' my cousin's back)

which I apprciate....and I never said the Ignorance was NOT a root...I just don't think that it's as PROMINANT a root as Hate.

Consider this: You are the warlord/leader of a tribe. There is a nearby tribe that has more fertile land. You don't care to learn anything about them, you just want them gone...the land doesn't even mean that much to you, because your not a tribe of farmers, your a war/hunter tribe. You attack, vicously slaughtering and destroying whatever they have.

If ignorance is one of the roots, Hate (and/or maybe fear) is a root and a DRIVING force, and therefore more pre-dominant.

Also, consider "racial purity":

# 1. Some proponents of "racial purity" maintain that their own "race" is the highest and best, source of all major advances in civilization, and should therefore be kept free of contamination by others.

# 2. Other proponents claim that all ethnic groups have their own value, make their own special contributions to humanity, and therefore should be kept "separate but equal" for the sake of all.

that not ignorance....that hatred of what MIGHT happen...

And a PRIME example...Hitler...if my mind serves me right, didn't Hitler hate the Jews because it was a Jew that revoked his application to art school?...Where is ignorance there??...thats a Hate move if I ever saw one.

[phee]

Hatred can't just form in a void...

Ignorance is a void....

Hatred is what is placed within the ignorance to create Racism... as opposed to say education, tolerence, or skittles

[phee]

And a PRIME example...Hitler...if my mind serves me right, didn't Hitler hate the Jews because it was a Jew that revoked his application to art school?...Where is ignorance there??...thats a Hate move if I ever saw one.

That is an example of a leader taking advantage of others ignorance to his own political ends...

And Hitler was also a sociopath and ignorant it its purest form.... there was a lot of things in the universe telling him that Jews were ... lets say, not to be treated the way he treated them... but he chose to "IGNORE" them, and remain "IGNORant"

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which I apprciate....and I never said the Ignorance was NOT a root...I just don't think that it's as PROMINANT a root as Hate.

Consider this: You are the warlord/leader of a tribe. There is a nearby tribe that has more fertile land. You don't care to learn anything about them, you just want them gone...the land doesn't even mean that much to you, because your not a tribe of farmers, your a war/hunter tribe. You attack, vicously slaughtering and destroying whatever they have.

THAT...is survival...if you see hate there...it is in your mind.

If ignorance is one of the roots, Hate (and/or maybe fear) is a root and a DRIVING force, and therefore more pre-dominant.

Also, consider "racial purity":

# 1. Some proponents of "racial purity" maintain that their own "race" is the highest and best, source of all major advances in civilization, and should therefore be kept free of contamination by others.

# 2. Other proponents claim that all ethnic groups have their own value, make their own special contributions to humanity, and therefore should be kept "separate but equal" for the sake of all.

THESE are clearly ignorant lines of thought given the discovery of "G-G-G-Grandma LUCY"...

that not ignorance....that hatred of what MIGHT happen...

And a PRIME example...Hitler...if my mind serves me right, didn't Hitler hate the Jews because it was a Jew that revoked his application to art school?...Where is ignorance there??...thats a Hate move if I ever saw one.

HITLER was of Ashkanasi descent...he was a Jew...that is as ignorant as any self-hatred.

[Rev.Reverence]

That is an example of a leader taking advantage of others ignorance to his own political ends...

And Hitler was also a sociopath and ignorant it its purest form.... there was a lot of things in the universe telling him that Jews were ... lets say, not to be treated the way he treated them... but he chose to "IGNORE" them, and remain "IGNORant"

GOOD PUN...

[SeraphBastille]

"THAT...is survival...if you see hate there...it is in your mind." Except you don't care about the more fertiel land...you jsut want them gone...thats not survival at that point...you don't even care to incorperate anyone into your tribe, to introduce new blood and more "hunters/warriors"...that act isn't one of survival.

"That is an example of a leader taking advantage of others ignorance to his own political ends...

And Hitler was also a sociopath and ignorant it its purest form.... there was a lot of things in the universe telling him that Jews were ... lets say, not to be treated the way he treated them... but he chose to "IGNORE" them, and remain "IGNORant""

nicely done...but I'm not sure where being a sociopath automatically makes you ignorant...and Ignoring something does not make you Ignorant of it....I try to Ignore Gaf (doesn't work well), but I'm not ignorant of him.

This is actually arguable, as none of us can say what was going through Hitler's head concerning the Jews. The only pyscological profiles done on him are after his death, and with what his social standpoint is in the past 50-60 years of modern culture, it's hard to say that those profiles aren't biased in some form. I'm sure that there are pro-Arian pyscological papers that will deem him a hero and in his right mind, but at the time, I don't think that Hitler was ignorant of what the Jews were...I think that he knew exactly what was going on all the time...and that his actions were based on retribution.

also...their called "Hate Groups" and "Hate Crimes" (interesting article right here)....if your correct that Ignorance is a stronger driving factor, and a deeper root, then shouldn't we change the names??

[phee]

There is simply Ignorance: "I don't know"

Then there is Willfull Ignorance: "I don't know and don't care to"

There is a lot of willfull ignorance in the world... Hitler is a good example of this... Hate groups are a good example of this... Anyone who makes up their mind and then shuts out all other information that may contradict their point of view is considered willfully ignorant.

Your opinion of Gaf... well.... that is not up to me to say.

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"THAT...is survival...if you see hate there...it is in your mind." Except you don't care about the more fertiel land...you jsut want them gone...thats not survival at that point...you don't even care to incorperate anyone into your tribe, to introduce new blood and more "hunters/warriors"...that act isn't one of survival.

"That is an example of a leader taking advantage of others ignorance to his own political ends...

And Hitler was also a sociopath and ignorant it its purest form.... there was a lot of things in the universe telling him that Jews were ... lets say, not to be treated the way he treated them... but he chose to "IGNORE" them, and remain "IGNORant""

nicely done...but I'm not sure where being a sociopath automatically makes you ignorant...and Ignoring something does not make you Ignorant of it....I try to Ignore Gaf (doesn't work well), but I'm not ignorant of him.

This is actually arguable, as none of us can say what was going through Hitler's head concerning the Jews. The only pyscological profiles done on him are after his death, and with what his social standpoint is in the past 50-60 years of modern culture, it's hard to say that those profiles aren't biased in some form. I'm sure that there are pro-Arian pyscological papers that will deem him a hero and in his right mind, but at the time, I don't think that Hitler was ignorant of what the Jews were...I think that he knew exactly what was going on all the time...and that his actions were based on retribution.

also...their called "Hate Groups" and "Hate Crimes" (interesting article right here)....if your correct that Ignorance is a stronger driving factor, and a deeper root, then shouldn't we change the names??

Hitler was a Jew.

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Racism, by its definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. People with racist beliefs might hate certain groups of people according to their racial groups. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or get preferential treatment. Racial discrimination typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, even though anybody can be racialised, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination.

While the term racism usually denotes race-based prejudice, violence, discrimination, or oppression, the term can also have varying and hotly contested definitions. Racialism is a related term, sometimes intended to avoid these negative meanings. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each racial group possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another racial group or racial groups. The Merriam-Webster's Dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular racial group, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief. The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as: "the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others."

Ignorance from the word ignore (to refuse to take notice of) the condition of knowing something but refusing to take notice of it.

Dictionary Main Entry:

ig·no·rant Listen to the pronunciation of ignorant

Pronunciation:

\ˈig-n(ə-)rənt\

Function:

adjective

Date:

14th century

1 a: destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society> ; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b: resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>

Fear is an emotional response to threats and danger. It is a basic survival mechanism occurring in response to a specific stimulus, such as pain or the threat of pain. Psychologists John B. Watson and Paul Ekman have suggested that fear is one of a small set of innate emotions. This set also includes joy, sadness, and anger.

Fear should be distinguished from anxiety, which typically occurs without any external threat. Additionally, fear is related to the specific behaviors of escape and avoidance, whereas anxiety is the result of threats which are perceived to be uncontrollable or unavoidable.[1]

Hatred

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"Hate" redirects here. For other uses, see Hate (disambiguation).

Hatred or hate is a word that describes intense feelings of dislike. It can be used in a wide variety of contexts, from hatred of inanimate objects to hatred of other people.

Philosophers have offered many influential definitions of hatred. Rene Descartes viewed hate as an awareness that something is bad, combined with an urge to withdraw from it. Baruch Spinoza defined hate as a type of pain that is due to an external cause. Aristotle viewed hate as a desire for the annihilation of an object that is incurable by time. Finally, David Hume believed that hate is an irreducible feeling that is not definable at all.[1]

In psychology, Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness[2]. In a more contemporary definition, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines hate as a "deep, enduring, intense emotion expressing animosity, anger, and hostility towards a person, group, or object."[3] Because hatred is believed to be long-lasting, many psychologists consider it to be more of an attitude or disposition than a (temporary) emotional state (see rage).

Rage, in psychiatry, is a mental state that is one extreme of the intensity spectrum of anger. When a person experiences rage it usually lasts until a threat is removed or the person under rage maimed/injured or killed. The other end of the spectrum is annoyance.[1]

According to psychologists, rage is a behavior that every person exhibits in some form. Rage is often used to denote hostile/affective/reactive aggression (as distinct from predatory/instrumental/proactive aggression). It denotes aggression where there is anger present, that is motivated by causing harm to others, and that is characterized by impulsive thinking and a lack of planning. This is a behavioral side that many would not like others to see, but does often persist in extreme situations. Some psychologists, such as Bushman and Anderson, argue that the hostile/predatory dichotomy that is commonly employed in psychology fails to define rage fully, since it is possible for anger to motivate aggression, provoking vengeful behavior, without incorporating the impulsive thinking that is characteristic of rage. They point to people such as the perpetrators of the September 11, 2001 attacks, the perpetrators of the Columbine High School massacre, and suicide bombers, all of whom clearly experienced intense anger and hate, but whose planning (sometimes over periods of years), forethought, and lack of impulsive behavior is readily observable.[1][2]

Expression of rage can be very intense, often distinguished by distorted facial expressions and by threat (or execution) of physical attack. “Rage is a physiologically based affective reaction to experiencing high levels of pain or displeasure (Parens, 1991, p. 89).” Psychologists have seen rage as caused by being more of an attack on one’s self than of others. This leads to rage being more intense, less focused and longer lasting. This same idea suggests rage is a narcissistic response to one’s past injuries (Menninger, W. 2007).

How does one tell the difference between rage and normal amounts of anger? Anger is explained by current dissatisfaction in one’s life. This amount of anger or frustration is common. Rage, however, is caused from built up anger from past traumas. These accumulated angry dispositions are locked in our mind and body’s (King, R. 2007). One can mask rage by appearing overly dominant, or by being depressed.

Many people feel anger all the time, this anger often feels like one is about to erupt in a painful fit over the smallest things. We often attribute these harbored ill feelings to stress or lack of sleep. However, some scientists have found that these ‘naturally angry tempers’ can be caused by a person’s nutritional habits. Kathleen O’Bannon explains in The Anger Cure how to tell if one’s tip toeing around rage is caused by one’s metabolism (2007). O’Bannon has suggestions for dissolving rage outbursts. These suggestions are in the form of diet changes and simple exercises one can do.

There has recently been a correlation between rage and the Cultivation Theory by George Gerbner. Cultivation Theory places blame on outside influences, such as, violent television programs and exposure to violent video games. There are specific elements that aid with rage being expressed. “This is seen when an individual perceives a narcissistic injury that is experienced as being profoundly unfair; the individual has no hope for achieving a reasonable resolution of the injury; the individual reaches the decision that the injury cannot be tolerated further and must be responded to with action; the individual has access to weapons to enhance the capacity and potency to respond; and the individual feels a sufficient sense of potency and/or disregard of the consequences to initiate violence (Menninger, W. 2007).”

When thinking of rage, the first thing that comes to mind is road rage and the various acts that stem from road rage. Most people who has sat behind a wheel has experienced some form of road rage; whether it be cursing at someone who has cut you off in traffic or giving the middle finger when someone steals your parking spot, most people have succumb to rage while in the car. Giving the finger when a driver cuts you off in traffic may be a normal reaction. However, when that normal reaction escalates, psychologists may call it intermittent explosive disorder (IED). A study has found that at least one in twenty people suffer from this disorder. IED is an aggressive overreaction to everyday stress, and may be a cause to severe road rage (Kashef, 2006). It is distinguished from normal anger by its severity, its controllability, its frequency and its triggers. These anger attacks can harm your health and social life, as well as many people around you. Recent studies done prove that there is more rage experienced than most expect. IED is more explosive than rage and even more common for people to experience than rage. There was a study done in Baltimore, MD which found that 11% of people taken for the study qualified for IED. The percentages were constant amongst men and women, and blacks and whites. Those who were younger were more susceptible to IED. People who experienced the greatest risk for IED were those who are less educated. Studies suggest that the reason people experience these behavioral tendencies are because they suffer from abnormal activity of the neurotransmitter serotonin. Although impulsive aggression in general is associated with low serotonin activity, as well as, damage to the prefrontal cortex, which is the center of judgment and self-control. There has been extensive research done in order to change the patterns of these behavioral tendencies, which goes more in depth than people actually realize (Harvard Mental Health Center, 2006).

A major goal for many researches is to identify with individual differences in displaced aggression, where the anger comes from, and why it is transferred onto other individuals (Denison, Miller, and Pederson, 2006). Direct aggression is the retaliation towards the provoking agent, whereas, displaced aggression is anger not provoked by an individual, but transferred to an innocent bystander.

When dealing with rage, we have to ask ourselves, what emotional forces cause individuals to express aggression, hostility, anger,hate or rage evolving into violence. Aggression stems from rage in which aggression focuses on action or behavior as opposed to emotion or effect.[3]

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well..how about the words of an expert then?....would you take the words of Alex Haley?, author of the famous Roots

your not the only one that studies things Rev.

Here ya' go...I see your 1 literary figure & raise you 9...no, 10..Ben is in my sig...

“Fear always springs from ignorance.” Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882), American lecturer, poet, and essayist

“Misunderstanding arising from ignorance breeds fear, and fear remains the greatest enemy of peace.” Lester B. Pearson

“Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.” Bertrand Russell

“No passion so effectually robs the mind of all its powers of acting and reasoning as fear.” Edmund Burke

“We tell lies when we are afraid… afraid of what we don't know, afraid of what others will think, afraid of what will be found out about us. But every time we tell a lie, the thing that we fear grows stronger.” Williams Tad

“Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely or to think sanely under the influence of a great fear.” Bertrand Russell (1872-1970), English logician and philosopher

“Fear is not in the habit of speaking truth.” Publius Cornelius Tacitus

"Ultimately we know deeply that the other side of every fear is a freedom." Marilyn Ferguson

“Because we fear the responsibility for our actions, we have allowed ourselves to develop the mentality of slaves. Contrary to the stirring sentiments of the Declaration of Independence, we now pledge "our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor" not to one another for our mutual protection, but to the state, whose actions continue to exploit, despoil, and destroy us.” Butler D. Shaffer

[phee]

*bows to the enormous amount of info the Rev provided*

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*bows to the enormous amount of info the Rev provided*

...& read a damn near every bit... the "RAGE" entry was quite long...so I opted to skim it...being an age old Adversary of mine..

(in the form of a constant paranoia causing me to hate everything for quite sometime...I FEEL MUCH BETTER NOW )...I thought I was versed already...

...thanx PHEE...

[SeraphBastille]

Hitler was a Jew.

he was also a catholic...your point?? Hitler being of jewish descent has no precedance on his choices.

[phee]

he was also a catholic...your point?? Hitler being of jewish descent has no precedance on his choices.

This is true

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he was also a catholic...your point?? Hitler being of jewish descent has no precedance on his choices.

Duh...he started a Pagan religion...

He was also on psychosis inducing drugs...allot of them.

I find the self hatred (especially in this case) to be indicative of many strains of mental illnesses...having fought that in myself as well...

...ask any psychologist...if you don't like yourself...you take it out on your family...or those closest to you, FIRST...

...this self hatred comes from...guess where?...not knowing your self....

...ever hear a saying that goes: To know him is to love him?

[SeraphBastille]

Duh...he started a Pagan religion...

He was also on psychosis inducing drugs...allot of them.

I find the self hatred (especially in this case) to be indicative of many strains of mental illnesses...having fought that in myself as well...

...ask any psychologist...if you don't like yourself...you take it out on your family...or those closest to you, FIRST...

...this self hatred comes from...guess where?...not knowing your self....

...ever hear a saying that goes: To know him is to love him?

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."

both of those are direct quotes from Mein Kampf..I would like to know, how, within those words...or actually...Mein Kampf itself, you will find Hitler pushing a paganistic front?

"Hitler's anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Christian Austria and Germany in his time took for granted the belief that Jews held an inferior status to Aryan Christians. Jewish hatred did not spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book, "On the Jews and their Lies," Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War II. Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther."

Like I said....him being of jewish descent has nothing to do with his hatred of Jews...nor does ignorance, really...he was TAUGHT to hate them...it was in everything educational he was given as a child, because it was all seeped deep in the writings of Martin Luther and the Christian Social movement. This is what shaped his mind. He was taught to hate the jews, to think of them as a plague.

[Oh_My_Goth]

he was also a catholic...your point?? Hitler being of jewish descent has no precedance on his choices.

You do not know that as fact.....

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"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."

both of those are direct quotes from Mein Kampf..I would like to know, how, within those words...or actually...Mein Kampf itself, you will find Hitler pushing a paganistic front?

"Hitler's anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Christian Austria and Germany in his time took for granted the belief that Jews held an inferior status to Aryan Christians. Jewish hatred did not spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book, "On the Jews and their Lies," Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War II. Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther."

Like I said....him being of jewish descent has nothing to do with his hatred of Jews...nor does ignorance, really...he was TAUGHT to hate them...it was in everything educational he was given as a child, because it was all seeped deep in the writings of Martin Luther and the Christian Social movement. This is what shaped his mind. He was taught to hate the jews, to think of them as a plague.

Many Cults...(Nazi party was a Cult) seem to be one thing and are in fact something completely different...

...since when did conjuring daemonic entities & looking to the star charts for advice on when to make specific attacks & where to make them, fit Catholic doctrine?

[Oh_My_Goth]

...& read a damn near every bit... the "RAGE" entry was quite long...so I opted to skim it...being an age old Adversary of mine..

(in the form of a constant paranoia causing me to hate everything for quite sometime...I FEEL MUCH BETTER NOW )...I thought I was versed already...

...thanx PHEE...

Very informative.....

I enjoyed the read.....

[Rev.Reverence]

[Oh_My_Goth]

Many Cults...(Nazi party was a Cult) seem to be one thing and are in fact something completely different...

...since when did conjuring daemonic entities & looking to the star charts for advice on when to make specific attacks & where to make them, fit Catholic doctrine?

I must agree.....Not very Christ-like.....

[SeraphBastille]

Many Cults...(Nazi party was a Cult) seem to be one thing and are in fact something completely different...

...since when did conjuring daemonic entities & looking to the star charts for advice on when to make specific attacks & where to make them, fit Catholic doctrine?

your talking about the Thule Society, correct?

Hitler was never a part of the Thule Society, nor did he have anything to do with it's creation. The Thule Society were the primary benefactors of the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, which was one of the main groups that would become the Nazi Party.

It is important to remember that Hitler had nothing to do with the founding of the Nazi party, and spent little time listening to the directions of men like Rudolph Hess, Hans Frank, and Alfred Rosenberg, at least on matters that were not of a political or military significance.

In fact, evidence shows that he never attended a meeting, as attested to by Johannes Hering's diary of Society meetings.

Hitler even goes as far as to disapprove of occultism in his Nuremburg speech

Also, Hitler is responsible for the start of the downfall of the Thule Society.

Early in 1920, Karl Harrer was forced out of the DAP as Hitler moved to sever the party's link with the Thule Society, which subsequently fell into decline and was dissolved about five years later, well before Hitler came to power.

so as for the demons and star charts....those were only held by remment members of the defunct Thule Society that were within the Third Reich, and were not authorized by Hitler, in fact, if he knew at the time, he probably would have executed them.

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your talking about the Thule Society, correct?

Hitler was never a part of the Thule Society, nor did he have anything to do with it's creation. The Thule Society were the primary benefactors of the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, which was one of the main groups that would become the Nazi Party.

It is important to remember that Hitler had nothing to do with the founding of the Nazi party, and spent little time listening to the directions of men like Rudolph Hess, Hans Frank, and Alfred Rosenberg, at least on matters that were not of a political or military significance.

In fact, evidence shows that he never attended a meeting, as attested to by Johannes Hering's diary of Society meetings.

Hitler even goes as far as to disapprove of occultism in his Nuremburg speech

Also, Hitler is responsible for the start of the downfall of the Thule Society.

Early in 1920, Karl Harrer was forced out of the DAP as Hitler moved to sever the party's link with the Thule Society, which subsequently fell into decline and was dissolved about five years later, well before Hitler came to power.

so as for the demons and star charts....those were only held by remment members of the defunct Thule Society that were within the Third Reich, and were not authorized by Hitler, in fact, if he knew at the time, he probably would have executed them.

New evidence has suggested that Nazism was not just a political movement but an occult religion with Hitler as the Messiah...

LINK TO QUOTE

The Nazi party grew out of several occult groups that sprung up in the late 19th century as a reaction to the advanced materialism and technology of the era.(actually this happened all over the world at that time...I SEE PATTERNS!) These groups spoke of the coming of a new Messiah that would save Germany. Young Adolf Hitler developed the notion that perhaps he was the chosen one to save the German people.

The political parties created in the wake of the country's defeat in World War I combined nationalistic sentiment and occultist practices to forge an image of a superior German people. Hitler's imprisonment after the failed 1923 Munich Beer Hall Putsch would make him a national hero for his defense of a strong German state, convincing him that he was the Messiah who could save Germany.

Hitler appropriated Christian religious symbols such as the Spear of Destiny and the Holy Grail for his own purposes. He adopted the swastika from Hinduism among many other Sanskrit terms and symbols. The symbol of the Swastika represents the Sun. Also as the Wheel of Life turning. The original symbol turns Clockwise. The Nazi one turns backwards. The Four Arms of the original Swastika represent the Four Vedas. The swastika is also the symbol for peace and harmony, as in Buddhism, Jainism and Taoism. It decorates most Hindu homes and Temples. Adolf Hitler's rise was the product of forces and events connecting him, his associates and the occult. Was Hitler influenced by supernatural ideas or was he just the embodiment of pure hate and evil? Examine the importance of symbols of the occult, religion and astrology to Hitler's concept of world domination.

In the conclusion, after the author Dusty Sklar has pointed out that Hitler's suicide happened at the night of April 30/May 1, which is Walpurgis Night, the narrator continues: "With Hitler gone, it was as if a spell had been broken". Then Joachim von Ribbentrop's infamous statement of his continued subservience to Hitler at the Nuremberg Trials is taken as final evidence of Hitler's "occult power": ("Even with all I know, if in this cell Hitler should come to me and say 'Do this!', I would still do it.").

Nationalsozialismus

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& SB... the Wiki I quoted mostly was talking about History Channel & the like topic programmes..

My main point in delineating Nazi Party Controlled Germany as a cult is based in that FEAR not HATE was the fuel that ran it's war machine... the mix of FEAR & HATE is as combustible as gasoline and oxygen...

Hitler was afraid of losing his power...his underlings were afraid of him...their underlings afraid of them... the World in turn FEARED their "Great Mission"...

..& if you still don't think it was a cult...what about when people were praising him as the Teutonic-Messiah..."Messiah" by the way, a Hebrew word...& also, there are still fools that espouse his greatness...SOUNDS PRETTY CULT-ISH TO ME...

..thank you that is all..

(I ran out of time to finish that earlyer)

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..&Hitler had a "favorite" astronomer...."favorite" as in the only one he thought was worth shit...because the guy sucked asshole well; I figure... it is documented in some dumb book from some guy that had some diary or some such...I read it years ago...I forgot...