Hayden Panettiere says VOTE MCCAIN!

[savageminstrel]

You state it is a matter of public record, but have yet to post any proof of such. Gaf, on the other hand, has backed up his claims with proof. Public record, by the way.

Until you back up your claims with proof, I will call you a liar.

Happy?

As far as I know name-calling is against the rules on this forum.

I was a direct witness to the statements that Clinton made, as was everyone at that speech, and thus do not have to back up anything... according to law, that is all that is required for "proof".

Happy?

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Thats not proof, thats testimony. Testimony is left to others to decide if it is truth or not. Testimony can also be refuted by documented proof. Such as transcipts of speechs that counter that testimony.

[savageminstrel]

Thats not proof, thats testimony. Testimony is left to others to decide if it is truth or not. Testimony can also be refuted by documented proof. Such as transcipts of speechs that counter that testimony.

You may refute it all you like, which I see you are now doing.... but doesn't make it a lie, nor me a liar. I could get the testimony of others at that speech, but it wouldn't matter, and I really can't be bothered doing that. I know what he said. Which does however count as evidence.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I have not called you a liar or accused you of lieing. Nor have I said anything about your charactor or what type of person you are.

I said you were wrong.

[savageminstrel]

I have not called you a liar or accused you of lieing. Nor have I said anything about your charactor or what type of person you are.

I said you were wrong.

I never said you called me a liar... I said it was inferred. Whether or not I am wrong about what I heard is moot.

[hunhee]

Please keep it civil here. Thanks

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

If you can't have a intellectual discussion with someone without resorting to insults, misquotes and outright lies about what someone has said.. then you should just drop it.

Then who were you talking about here? and in the posts above this one?

[savageminstrel]

Then who were you talking about here? and in the posts above this one?

Your misquote and misrepresentation about what I said... which has already been shown.

I'm not the one that brought NAFTA up, nor am I the one that said they new more about this issue than anyone else because they have voted longer.

I never said that...

My statement about outright lies was mistaken, and I do retract that, with apologies.

[Goth Brooks]

As far as I know name-calling is against the rules on this forum.

Calling a spade a spade is not name calling. But if you really wish to drag in the forum rules, and make the moderators judge your own words as well, go right ahead.

[savageminstrel]

Calling a spade a spade is not name calling. But if you really wish to drag in the forum rules, and make the moderators judge your own words as well, go right ahead.

I would think calling someone a liar would be considered inciting anger, and bad form.

[hunhee]

Lets keep on topic.. *glares at everyone*

[Goth Brooks]

I would think calling someone a liar would be considered inciting anger, and bad form.

What about when that person proves it themselves?

If I said the sky was made of blue cheese and someone called me a liar, would that be against forum rules?

Can we get a mod ruling?

[savageminstrel]

What about when that person proves it themselves?

If I said the sky was made of blue cheese and someone called me a liar, would that be against forum rules?

Can we get a mod ruling?

Now you are being ludicrous... If you said the sky was made of blue cheese and we could see and prove for ourselves that is wasn't made of blue cheese, it would still be wrong to call you a liar. Who's to say what you may have seen?

You can't prove that anything I said was a lie, and without proof that I was lying it is irresponsible to publicly accuse me of it.. and could possibly be considered libel.

[n0Mad]

Proof is a funny thing. If you are able to prove the null hypothesis then the alternative hypothesis is automatically rejected and considered false. If however you are unable to prove the null hypothesis true or or able to prove it false, then while the alternative hypothesis is accepted it is still not proven true.

Anyway, it is my opinion that you are all douche jockies and I wish you'd shut the fuck up so we can go back to calling Hatin Pantyliner a spoiled bitch with a silver spoon up her ass.

[savageminstrel]

Proof is a funny thing. If you are able to prove the null hypothesis then the alternative hypothesis is automatically rejected and considered false. If however you are unable to prove the null hypothesis true or or able to prove it false, then while the alternative hypothesis is accepted it is still not proven true.

Anyway, it is my opinion that you are all douche jockies and I wish you'd shut the fuck up so we can go back to calling Hatin Pantyliner a spoiled bitch with a silver spoon up her ass.

Agreed.. lol.. I am done with this.

[Rev.Reverence]

Proof is a funny thing. If you are able to prove the null hypothesis then the alternative hypothesis is automatically rejected and considered false. If however you are unable to prove the null hypothesis true or or able to prove it false, then while the alternative hypothesis is accepted it is still not proven true.

Anyway, it is my opinion that you are all douche jockies and I wish you'd shut the fuck up so we can go back to calling Hatin Pantyliner a spoiled bitch with a silver spoon up her ass.

HAHAHA!

...I thought she had a whole place setting...(not just the spoon)...stored in her twat!...

...Obama clearly stated he wanted a clean campaign...SO DID McCain...they are both wankers...engaged in semantic masturbation...getting ready to bust their proverbial nut on the face of Liberty.

[peelingchrome]

HAHAHA!

...I thought she had a whole place setting...(not just the spoon)...stored in her twat!...

...Obama clearly stated he wanted a clean campaign...SO DID McCain...they are both wankers...engaged in semantic masturbation...getting ready to bust their proverbial nut on the face of Liberty.

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