the "do-over"

[Simon Bar Sinister]

Yeah, so...I read a bit o' news about Ted Haggard, the former evangelist preacher who got drummed out of that line of work when it was revealed that he'd been having sex and doing meth with a male hooker. Seems he's on the comeback trail; he's the subject of an upcoming special on HBO, and talking about someday re-entering the ministry, yadda, yadda, yadda. When asked about his sexuality, he says that "it's too complex to be put in a box", or some shit like that. A bit strange coming from someone who used to persecute all things gay, but he seems to have softened his views of gays and gay life a bit...anyway, I suppose the point is this: is there ever a place too far to come back from?

[taysteewonderbunny]

I hope not, or I'm going to hell.

[TheGimp]

I hope not, or I'm going to hell.

yea if he gose to *heaven* were fucked if a man who is suppose to be holy smokes meth and bangs male hookers an d gose agiant god gets into heaven just son of a bitch

[candyman]

Yeah, so...I read a bit o' news about Ted Haggard, the former evangelist preacher who got drummed out of that line of work when it was revealed that he'd been having sex and doing meth with a male hooker. Seems he's on the comeback trail; he's the subject of an upcoming special on HBO, and talking about someday re-entering the ministry, yadda, yadda, yadda. When asked about his sexuality, he says that "it's too complex to be put in a box", or some shit like that. A bit strange coming from someone who used to persecute all things gay, but he seems to have softened his views of gays and gay life a bit...anyway, I suppose the point is this: is there ever a place too far to come back from?

Yeah...you can go too far. I will not list those that I feel are too far gone as it will start fights. This guys was an ass...no doubt...but it is not past fixing. We all do dumb stuff like this, its just that depending on your situation it may seen to be different. You could be part of a culture that see it different, or a religion, or even a mental state. This guy was also in the public eye, and for all know they fabricated half of history so...

You gotta reach out to people. This guys really deserves it considering what he recently said. We also need to reach out to those that would rather bite our hands off...it can only help