Healthcare Bill Passes. (elephant in the room)

[phee]

..that would pretty much fix it up...

.....this is America, you don't go around *making* peoples do shit...it's *supposed* to be a free country.

[edit to clarify]

They are making YOU (not me, I have insurance, crappy that it is, crappier that it will be.)

buy something (coverage)...

..it is mandatory...

..& the fine, exceeds the cost of the coverage..

..that's not "Just" at all...

I made that part bigger so you can see it...

..no one ever made me buy car insurance..I can't drive..

...& that, is a STATE LAW...

Please refrain from comparing TRAFFIC LAWS, & PUBLIC DECENCY to the MANDATORY PURCHASE of a service...it is a foolish argument, to say the least...or, do you just like being confused & confusing????

Easy my good man... no need for the hostility.

Just trying to have a conversation.

[Rev.Reverence]

Easy my good man... no need for the hostility.

Just trying to have a conversation.

...& I am conversating...

..you needs to stay/get on topic, & stop trying to compare thing that don't compare well, if at all.

[phee]

...& I am conversating...

..you needs to stay/get on topic, & stop trying to compare thing that don't compare well, if at all.

Thats your opinion.... and I am stating mine.

[Rev.Reverence]

They are making YOU (not me, I have insurance, crappy that it is, crappier that it will be.)

buy something (coverage)...

..it is mandatory...

..& the fine, exceeds the cost of the coverage..

...all facts.

[phee]

AND, since you don't work, say it with me people, you don't pay a cent for healthcare nor are penalized, because poor people are NOT required to

pay for coverage.

[Rev.Reverence]

You're making no sense again.

[the eternal]

... That was an oopsy.

Edited April 25, 2010 by the eternal

[Rev.Reverence]

What's that supposed to mean?

You guys gots some secret libral-ist language?

[phee]

You're making no sense again.

If you say so.

[the eternal]

They are making YOU (not me, I have insurance, crappy that it is, crappier that it will be.) buy something (coverage) it is mandatory...& the fine, exceeds the cost of the coverage..that's not "Just" at all...

...all facts.

since you don't work, say it with me people, you don't pay a cent for healthcare nor are penalized, because poor people are NOT required to

pay for coverage.

Here's why Phee makes sense.

Just to break it down---It makes sense because, if say for example,

one VOLUNTARILY filed for disability,

and filled out all the necessary paperwork, so as to get government money,

that I, eternal, as a taxpayer am required to pay

for through MY social security taxes, (which I have no problem doing)

that person's income would not be enough to be required to get health insurance or be penalized if he didn't.

Now, if that person got off disability AND Medicaid but STILL made less than $9,350 for singles and $18,700 couples,

that person STILL wouldn't have to pay a cent.

Soooo, it would seem HIGHLY ironic if, hypothetically speaking, the people

who keep complaining the loudest about governement mandates

(those on disability/medicare/medicaid) were the ones that ALREADY ARE THE BENEFICIARIES of government mandates that EVERY working person has to pay for anyway.

BUT WHAT THERE'S MORE!

This requirement doesn't even start going into effect until 2014 and the 2.5% fine doesn't even fully get required until 2016!

BUT, what DOES happen now is that health providers need to give free health screenings so expensive emergency room visits that, I eternal, pay for through MY taxes, will be prevented.

AND people will live and have inexpensive medical procedures because whatever ailment they had was stopped early before it got worse necessitating aforementioned emergency room visit.

Edited April 25, 2010 by the eternal

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

The Oh snap was for Phee's post, not Revs

Here's why Phee makes sense.

Just to break it down---It makes sense because, if say for example, one VOLUNTARILY filed for disability, and filled out all the necessary paerwork, so as to get government money, that I, eternal, as a taxpayer am required to pay

for through MY income taxes, (which I have no problem doing)

that person's income would not be enough to be required to get health insurance or be penalized if he didn't.

Now, if that person got off disability AND Medicaid but STILL made less than $9,350 for singles and $18,700 couples,

that person STILL wouldn't have to pay a cent.

BUT WHAT THERE'S MORE!

This requirement doesn't even start going into effect until 2014 and the 2.5% fine doesn't even fully get required until 2016!

BUT, what DOES happen now is that health providers need to give free health screenings so expensive emergency room visits that, I eternal, pay for through MY income taxes, will be prevented.

AND people will live and have inexpensive medical procedures because whatever ailment they had was stopped early before it got worse necessitating aforementioned emergency room visit.

You forgot to factor in all the Doctors who will no longer do those procedures, tests and screenings because they no longer get reimbursed enough to cover thier costs.

[Rev.Reverence]

Oh...I see, you think, I am AGAINST Socialism...HAHAA!

I've been calling for it, far longer than the likes of YOU.

However, it is very unconstitutional (remember the piece of paper, MY forefathers fought to establish)...this is a Republic, not a Democracy.

ALSO, if you think I never payed taxes, get bent, I worked fuckin' hard, & payed into the program that I receive benefits from!

[Rev.Reverence]

...& though, I am no Republican, & certainly no conservative...I do just LOVE this new lil' cartoon me boys in the right-wing done drew up...

[freydis]

If the cost of insurance increases, I am pretty much going to be forced to just bear it.

I have the most expensive choice in insurance my company offers for a reason. I really dont have a choice. We cant afford not to.

[n0Mad]

Can't embed the video so you'll have to click the link:

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/308061/april-26-2010/indecision-2010-midterm-elections---sue-lowden