what do we know about vodo

[cptdeath]

vodo seems to be a crock if you ask me

but zombies have happened

i just have never been able to use anything from vodo

whats your take

kahli-ma

shook tuda

you have betrayed sheba :fear

recently scientists have re animated dogs that were dead for 8 hours south of the border a good link to look for :fear

[Fierce Critter]

I'm a healthy, but open-minded skeptic. I don't have to see something to believe in it, but I generally don't fear that which I don't know firsthand either.

From what I have seen, Voodoo is to be respected. If you believe in energy work, then you might understand what I say when I say Voodoo is very, very strong energy work.

Beyond that, I have no opinion/knowledge. I wouldn't mock it, though.

[Mikielikesit]

There are so many things out there that can or may not be but I do not pretend to know everything in fact i know very little about much of nothing, but i do keep an open ear and an open mind because there are powers out there that I can not explain and I am always willing to learn and to be open for them to be explained to me without prejudice.

[Mistress Mercy]

I myself would have to say I believe in it ,I'm a practicing witch and I've seen things happen from doing spells and what not so it's not just smoke and mirrors to me. They use there energy to achieve an outcome of something with assistance of certain Loa. Although if someone who just picked up a book or is skeptical of it tried to do something it probably wouldn't work because they don't have the focus or faith in it that someone actually practicing Vodun or types of magick would have.

[Scary Guy]

"AH, MY FINGERS, BITCH" - Ice T.

My friend Bo got into Hodoo (sp?) which is basically vodoo without the religious aspect of it, or it's different some how.

There may be some science to some of it, but I'm always skepticle of everything.

[Homicidalheathen]

It's voodoo, but anyway.....my freind who runs a store around here and is very knowlegeable about the occult will do the occasional spell with a freind of his from some place like Jamaca or Africa...and he says they are very powerful.

If you don't mind using powers that are dark....shedding innocent animal blood ect.....not for me.

[torn asunder]

almost all forms of magick/prayer, in my opinion, are valid - it all comes down to the amount of belief/faith/knowing one puts into it, and the intent of the spell/prayer. when apraoched in a helpful manner, with good intent, i think it can be relatively "easy" to help yourself/others. when done with the intent to control/influence others or bring about negativity for them, not only would you have to deal with any karmic aspects, but the other person/persons will as well, and believe me if someone has absolutely no faith in your form of "magick", you will have no effect on them directly...

but what do i know!? :fear

[soothsayer]

I just don't mess around with voodoo, black magic or witch craft. Bad mojo.

[DarkVampire]

Being a believer of magic, be it black or white, I certainly don't trivialize nor screw around with Voodoo.

[torn asunder]

Bad mojo.

"bad mojo" is entirely dependant on one's intent - negative, hurtful things will return the same, just as good will.

[soothsayer]

That's why I don't mess with it......no wanna that stuff coming back at me.

[cptdeath]

"AH, MY FINGERS, BITCH" - Ice T.

My friend Bo got into Hodoo (sp?) which is basically vodoo without the religious aspect of it, or it's different some how.

There may be some science to some of it, but I'm always skepticle of everything.

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I was thinking of that song on my way to work this mourning mad props

[cptdeath]

"bad mojo" is entirely dependant on one's intent - negative, hurtful things will return the same, just as good will.

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the path to hell was paved with good intentions

I don't remember where i heard that but it seems to make sense

there are plenty of examples were good intentions lead to humman atrosities

[Mistress Mercy]

Ok I just have to point this out since people are saying things about stuff coming back to you and karma and what not. Not all Voodo is bad they are not evil people they do tend to cast curses on people that cross them but they don't just do it for the fun of it . Also there is no such thing as black or white magic everything has a bit of light and dark in it just sometimes one out does the other. Also the thing with them killing animals lot of other religions do this I'm not saying its ok but I know at least the chickens they use there eaten afterwards and at least they honor the animals in a way sort of like the Native Americans did when they killed an animal they used all parts of it not wasting anything and honoring it's spirit,certain pagan people also did things simalar to this when hunting animals like alot of the pagan religions from britan, people that practice Vodun do the same. There are also some Vodun groups who dont kill animals.

[Scary Guy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodoo

[cptdeath]

Ok I just have to point this out since people are saying things about stuff coming back to you and karma and what not. Not all Voodo is bad they are not evil people they do tend to cast curses on people that cross them but they don't just do it for the fun of it . Also there is no such thing as black or white magic everything has a bit of light and dark in it just sometimes one out does the other. Also the thing with them killing animals lot of other religions do this I'm not saying its ok but  I know at least the chickens they use there eaten afterwards and at least they honor the animals in a way sort of like the Native Americans did when they killed an animal they used all parts of it not wasting anything and honoring it's spirit,certain pagan people also did things simalar to this when hunting animals like alot of the pagan religions from britan, people that practice Vodun do the same. There are also some Vodun groups who dont kill animals.

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I feel that way about my food and hope to be eaten someday in the same regard.

but indians used to stampeade the buffallo over to cliffs and when enough fell over for the stampeede to stop they would walk up and kill a couple. but hundred fell over in the process and nobodys climbing down that cliff to carry a hudred smashed buffalo up with em. :fear

[pomba gira]

Voudun, Yoruba, Santer'a, Les Mysteres, Candomble & the other traditions of Afro-Caribbean spiritual practice have nothing to do with "black magic", they are mainstream religions in places where they're widely practiced There are people who use the techniques for "negative" purposes just as some people use European-based spiritual techniques for "negative" purposes. Altho to be sure, in a culture with a long history of oppression, the definitions of "negative" & "positive" are going to be a wee bit more... flexible... than elsewhere.

One thing to remember about African-derived traditions is they are very community-based- you really can't practice them as a solitary like you can Wicca or other Euro & shamanic traditions. It isn't something you can just pick up a book & do & expect to get results.

[Homicidalheathen]

That explains why my freind is participating I guess. He said he would never and now he is....I guess the lady needs someone to help her at times. He said he never cuts the chickens throat though, he leaves that up to her.

I have used blood and semen in ritual but am peta now so no killing.

Voudun, Yoruba, Santer'a, Les Mysteres, Candomble & the other traditions of Afro-Caribbean spiritual practice have nothing to do with "black magic", they are mainstream religions in places where they're widely practiced  There are people who use the techniques for "negative" purposes just as some people use European-based spiritual techniques for "negative" purposes.  Altho to be sure, in a culture with a long history of oppression, the definitions of "negative" & "positive" are going to be a wee bit more... flexible... than elsewhere.

One thing to remember about African-derived traditions is they are very community-based- you really can't practice them as a solitary like you can Wicca or other Euro & shamanic traditions.  It isn't something you can just pick up a book & do & expect to get results.

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[float]

I'm a skeptic of most things

but I fear voodoo

[Vater Araignee]

When it comes to afro centric practices I use bone casting and no my knuckle bones are not made of plastic.

You don't have to believe that voodoo will hurt you for it to do so, you'll just explain it away. even if it was magic that caused that rabbit to fart startling the butterfly so that it caused a little more pollen to enter the air and be caught on the wind delivered to the mountain goats nostrils causing it to sneeze triggering the avalanche that buried you. So get a jar and fill it with magnify lenses and bent pins, needles, nails, and razor blades then just add a small amount of your blood and top it off with your urine, cap it and bury under your bedroom window and your safe.

I feel that way about my food and hope to be eaten someday in the same regard.

but indians used to stampeade the buffallo over to cliffs and when enough fell over for the stampeede to stop they would walk up and kill a couple. but hundred fell over in the process and nobodys climbing down that cliff to carry a hudred smashed buffalo up with em. :fear

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Only some NATIVE AMERICAN tribes practiced buffalo jump and yes they did harvest the fallen animals.

I hope my ending helps somebody to ascend even if I have to come back to hell. If eating me is the way to keep somebody dead long enough to find the path, so be it.

That explains why my freind is participating I guess.  He said he would never and now he is....I guess the lady needs someone to help her at times.  He said he never cuts the chickens throat though, he leaves that up to her.

I have used blood and semen in ritual but am peta now so no killing.

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I have also been know to sacrifice animals but that's not something that is strict to one religion or another.

It is an honor for the animal, they gave up life so they may help us cast off death and live again.

Freeing the animals spirit so that we may call upon the Everything and let it know that we are trying to stop dying brings the spirit great joy.

I gotta stop before I spout my entire belief system out.

[float]

Hmmmm

very revieling

[pomba gira]

Only some NATIVE AMERICAN tribes practiced buffalo jump and yes they did harvest the fallen animals.

I hope my ending helps somebody to ascend even if I have to come back to hell. If eating me is the way to keep somebody dead long enough to find the path, so be it.

I have also been know to sacrifice animals but that's not something that is strict to one religion or another.

It is an honor for the animal, they gave up life so they may help us cast off death and live again.

Freeing the animals spirit so that we may call upon the Everything and let it know that we are trying to stop dying brings the spirit great joy.

I gotta stop before I spout my entire belief system out.

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Actually, Europeans hunted this way too... just farther back than Native Americans, like when there were mammoths. And the whole point was to harvest the fallen animals- why risk trying to spear a spooked bison when there's a pile ov dead ones right there? As I understand it, half of the group would act as chasers, the other half would wait at the bottom to do the skinning & butchering.

AFA "making sacred" animals, it can be argued that it's arrogant to think it's OK to kill animals for human purposes (i.e. food, clothing, protecting livestock), but not for divine purposes. Kind ov an extension of the argument that to refuse to partake of death is to place yourself above the divine or outside the natural order ov the world.