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[paradox]

Really? That explains Yin/Yang in the I Ching so well. NOT. Eastern thought is very left/right black/white good/evil.

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please also take note of the rather large disclaimer above...

[Guest Game of Chance]

What if its really just three things?? As in...yes, no, and neither yes or no...

maybe: yin, yang and tao???

or: Matter, Energy and Neither??

[The_Dark]

The tao isn't the same thing. The tao is the way.. the moment.. the inbetween what was and what is to be... the now. Yin and Yang are just lenses we use to make sense of the Tao. Labels we put on things.. actions... deeds.... words. Just simple words to mirror our morality on the Tao. A westeren man knew this too... He said "A rose is a rose...."

[Guest Game of Chance]

The tao isn't the same thing. The tao is the way.. the moment.. the inbetween what was and what is to be... the now. Yin and Yang are just lenses we use to make sense of the Tao. Labels we put on things.. actions... deeds.... words. Just simple words to mirror our morality on the Tao. A westeren man knew this too... He said "A rose is a rose...."

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correct...kind of...but the tao is the absence of both yin and yang...opposites cancel each other out... 1 + (-1) = 0

[The_Dark]

But they also define each other. If we saw everything as good then everything would just Be and Good would be pointless. The Tao Te Ching says:

The ideas "difficult" and "easy" support each other.

"Long" and "short" define each other.

"High" creates "low"

"Tone" creates "noise"

"Before" creates "after"

"Have" creates "don't have"

Things just Are and that is Tao

[Guest Game of Chance]

And how does that differ from my post??

[The_Dark]

It's different because in your post you said they cancel each other out... and the Tao Te Ching teaches that they create each other. I'm pretty sure that creating is the exact oppisite of cancelling out. I could be wrong, it's happened before.

[Homicidalheathen]

I sit up and talk about this stuff with my freinds all night and now its in here! Help! Too many smart people....my narcalepsy is kicking in....

My husband is a genius and him and Rai-Linga sit up all night and bore me to tears with this stuff.

It is what it is...now go out and enjoy it. Goddamnit!

They tried to get me to read 'the elegant universe' by Brian green and It made my ADD say no no no. Ha.

[Guest Game of Chance]

It's different because in your post you said they cancel each other out... and the Tao Te Ching teaches that they create each other. I'm pretty sure that creating is the exact oppisite of cancelling out. I could be wrong, it's happened before.

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Opposites unite and destroy each other. Check out magnetism sometime.

[The_Dark]

Sometimes they create something new... Wet and Dry create damp.

[Guest Game of Chance]

Exactly my point Dark. But Wet and Dry no longer exist. Damp is a third and totally different thing that is created from the "ashes" of the union (and then subsequent destruction) of Wet and Dry. Awesome...you totally got it.

[The_Dark]

well, yeah.. The Tao Te Ching was required reading in my fathers household. I do the "sticks" method of the I Ching twice a year and the coin method daily.

[paradox]

but what about the Tao Co Bell? :blink

[Guest Game of Chance]

but what about the Tao Co Bell? :blink

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:laughing

I'm a fan of the new Cheesy Gordi Tao Crunch

[phee]

Look what I did!!!

[paradox]

WHERE?!

*ducks*

[phee]

Another question....

(assuming you believe in it) Where is the soul "physically" located?

[paradox]

can the soul be physical at all?

[The_Dark]

That would fully depend on what a person's view of what a soul is.

[phee]

That is a good question

[Homicidalheathen]

I am hearing it is the heart chakra....and after hearing the heart has nerve tissue like the brain I believe it. We actually think/feel with our hearts......I read it in a science magazine. :cheerful

[phee]

I am hearing it is the heart chakra....and after hearing the heart has nerve tissue like the brain I believe it.  We actually think/feel with our hearts......I read it in a science magazine. :cheerful

Interesting

[Homicidalheathen]

Yup, it pays to be a geek sometimes.....

What do you think caused the 'big bang' or wasn't there one?

[phee]

Yup, it pays to be a geek sometimes.....

What do you think caused the 'big bang' or wasn't there one?

I have two approaches to this question, which may end up being the same.

The first one is more scientic....

It has to do with a the "Higgs Field" as weel as "String Theory" and the way that the Universe converts potential energy into ketitic energy. The unverse to be unified into the single point that it must have started as, must have been extremely symetrical and ordered. According to the probability of the Theories equations... there is a minute chance that the Higgs Field would become asymentric for a miniscule fraction of the time, and create the most incredile force of antigravity possible, just long enough to create the universe... this also explains one of the major factors of the seemingly one way nature of time (ie: more and more entropy)

The spiritual explination:

If there were a 100 percenent omnipinant "God" that has contol of every single last partical and aspect of the Universe, can tell it's future, and it's own personal future.... well then there would be no point in making a Universe in the first place because, because to the God there would be no challenge, no point in createing anything because it already knows every outcome imaginable and every aspect of its will is equal. With one exeption... the one thing that this being would not be able to see, would be what would happen if it stopped existing, IE suicide. In which case we would be the result of this beings death... every molecule in our universe and every feild, and every aspect of energy would be a peace of this being, including us.

[kellygrrrrrl]

The answers have always been there, but like the religionists of the times, many people have blinded their eyes, shut their ears, and hardened their hearts to answers that did not match their human theories or their chosen life-style