Phees "Deep Questions"

[phee]

is the term "space" simply a way to describe the relation of seperate peaces of matter to one another, or is "space" an actual "thing" in and of itself?

[The_Dark]

Space is a thing in and of itself. It is the absence of.. well, stuff. Space, though the most abundant thing there is, is limited and we are always trying to find more ways to make it. Making space in our busy scheduals, making space in the attic, making space in our life for that special someone. The lsit goes on. Space is and Space is not.

[phee]

Space is a thing in and of itself. It is the absence of.. well, stuff. Space, though the most abundant thing there is, is limited and we are always trying to find more ways to make it. Making space in our busy scheduals, making space in the attic, making space in our life for that special someone. The lsit goes on. Space is and Space is not.

Nice!

Anyone else... Physics has many theories about this, some say that space/time is something but space and time are not seperate entities... some say that it is filled with either.

[JaneDead]

space is the final frontier phee. duh.

[holliwood66]

Space is almost total vacuum - with some dust and things spread around here and there. (Tho we still can't account for 92% or so of the matter in the Universe...at least current calculations say there should be much more stuff lying around than there is...heh.)

There is a great deal of research and theories on Quantum Fields...as all the scientists bandy around formulae to explain acceleration and gravitational pull within the Space Vacuum framework. *i.e. fights about bending gamma, infrared and x-rays...how the hell is this happening?*

[Jarodaka]

Space is a thing in and of itself. It is the absence of.. well, stuff.

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This is a contradiction. Space is only defined by the things that 'bookend' it, if you will.

[Paper Hearts]

What does it mean when you see those signs that say 'Space For Rent'?

[phee]

Nice discussion....

[JaneDead]

Space is only defined by the things that 'bookend' it, if you will.

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i like that definition

[phee]

This is a contradiction.  Space is only defined by the things that 'bookend' it, if you will.

Then how can space itself "warp" and "bend" according to Einstien?

[JaneDead]

saying that it bookends it doesn't mean it is not flexible.

[phee]

saying that it bookends it doesn't mean it is not flexible.

By that definition it is something more than that which seperates other things... can how can you bend "nothing"?

[JaneDead]

well, i never said it was nothing. i don't think space is nothing.

[phee]

well, i never said it was nothing. i don't think space is nothing.

Than what is it?

[torn asunder]

(ok, it's been a while since i've exercised this part of my brain, so feel free to correct me if i misspeak...)

space isn't actually nothing, if you buy into superstring, and zero-point energy field theories... even in a "complete" vacuum, particles can pop in and out of existence from nothing more than the fluctuations in the "quantum soup" of the universe.

ugh, my brain hurts :doh - i'll come back to this again later...

[torn asunder]

...is the term "space" simply a way to describe the relation of seperate peaces of matter to one another...

well, any word is simply a way to describe a thing, or non-thing, as the case may be - this is the trouble with spoken language...

[phee]

(ok, it's been a while since i've exercised this part of my brain, so feel free to correct me if i misspeak...)

space isn't actually nothing, if you buy into superstring, and zero-point energy field theories... even in a "complete" vacuum, particles can pop in and out of existence from nothing more than the fluctuations in the "quantum soup" of the universe.

ugh, my brain hurts  :doh - i'll come back to this again later... 

Nice!!! Very educated sounding answer

[torn asunder]

Nice!!! Very educated sounding answer

educated sounding?? are you insinuating something!?!?

[phee]

educated sounding?? are you insinuating something!?!?   

Actually I am reading a pretty comprhensive book about this... and that seems to gel with it.

[torn asunder]

what book? i have several - wondering if i have it...

[phee]

The Fabric of the Cosmos by Greene

[torn asunder]

nope - will have to check it out, thanks!

[phee]

[torn asunder]

btw, phee, we haven't heard your thoughts on this yet...

[phee]

My thoughts... I don't have enough info yet....