Wounds Within Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 By now most people have heard of the brutal death of Pamela Vitale who also just happens to be the very wife of lawyer and Television pundit Daniel Horowitz who is widely known for his services on the defense team in high profile cases. Pretty much the man is much like a white Johnny Cochron. Anyway as it turns out due to new evidence Pamela Vitale was killed by a 17 year old student in what his fellow classmates described as "a gothic loner who followed the occult and dressed in black from the polish on his fingernails to his trench coat." I read the article in what CNN posted which is : http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/10/21/vitale.suspect/index.html After reading this I saw a bit more of it on CNN television. CNN interviewed all these different people, (white, black, asian) and every single person they spoke to stated that this man must be an evil, horrible person and they knew it all along because he is a goth and is different and is an outcast from everyone else in his general area. Even CNN was saying comments on "how we have seen such acts before from goth kids and adults alike." What the hell is that about? Now that is some top quality journalism right there. Everyone was taking cheap shots at the gothic culture and outlook on life. They are not saying he is a bad person for maybe possibly taking someone's life, they are saying he is a bad person for just being goth in general and if he did kill this poor woman then it just adds to that. Now don't get me wrong here my friends, I am in no way defending this person and murder is a awful crime to commit and if it is indeed found that this young lad did this dirty deed then he should be punished. I am just asking whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? This sounds more like guilty by proven goth. I am just tired of hearing about the gothic stereotypes that people use when they have no idea what they are even talking about and how how fast society is willing to jump on the "gothic is bad" bandwagon. The moral of the story is equal rights apply to all people, white, black, asian, goth, whatever you are, they apply to us all.
Moonlight_Phantasy Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 This actually reminds me of when 9-11 happened and this Arab girl in Dearborn got beat up by bunch of guys with baseball bats. I predict the same results will happen. Although I thought crimes of discrimination ended years ago. And now the Media is participating.
paradox Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 i think that, in part, this sort of 'goth is evil' sentiment is due to the polarizing of religion and state politics we had in this administration. not to say it didnt exist before (it certainly did) but the general sense of crisis that has prevailed in the nation since things like columbine and 9-11 and the war on iraq/terror has served to elevate and awareness of the 'others' in society and a tendancey to put blame for these tragedies on them, rather than look to the greater respocibility our society as a whole owes to itself.
Moonlight_Phantasy Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 i think that, in part, this sort of 'goth is evil' sentiment is due to the polarizing of religion and state politics we had in this administration. not to say it didnt exist before (it certainly did) but the general sense of crisis that has prevailed in the nation since things like columbine and 9-11 and the war on iraq/terror has served to elevate and awareness of the 'others' in society and a tendancey to put blame for these tragedies on them, rather than look to the greater respocibility our society as a whole owes to itself. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree with that. Unfortunetly, ignorance is bliss in the minds of an idiot, and they take their frustrations out on the closest "offense" too them. Like the kid "who wears black clothes." Oh, he must be a Satanist because of his attire! They dont look at the bigger picture. They just see this: Black Clothes: Bad CNN: Good They dont want to know if it was his homelife was the cause of his behavior, if he was guilty of the crime. I'd like to keep updates on the investigation just to see what else they have to say about it. I still plan on sending in that letter to CNN and have everyone sign it, so please email me if you want me to input it. When Im done I'll post it so everyone can critique b4 I officially send it in. But I still want everyone to sign it, too. So I'll probably end up taking to City Club when I get out there again.
Wounds Within Posted October 23, 2005 Author Posted October 23, 2005 i think that, in part, this sort of 'goth is evil' sentiment is due to the polarizing of religion and state politics we had in this administration. not to say it didnt exist before (it certainly did) but the general sense of crisis that has prevailed in the nation since things like columbine and 9-11 and the war on iraq/terror has served to elevate and awareness of the 'others' in society and a tendancey to put blame for these tragedies on them, rather than look to the greater respocibility our society as a whole owes to itself. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> very well put my friend.
Wounds Within Posted October 23, 2005 Author Posted October 23, 2005 I agree with that. Unfortunetly, ignorance is bliss in the minds of an idiot, and they take their frustrations out on the closest "offense" too them. Like the kid "who wears black clothes." Oh, he must be a Satanist because of his attire! They dont look at the bigger picture. They just see this: Black Clothes: Bad CNN: Good They dont want to know if it was his homelife was the cause of his behavior, if he was guilty of the crime. I'd like to keep updates on the investigation just to see what else they have to say about it. I still plan on sending in that letter to CNN and have everyone sign it, so please email me if you want me to input it. When Im done I'll post it so everyone can critique b4 I officially send it in. But I still want everyone to sign it, too. So I'll probably end up taking to City Club when I get out there again. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, that is also a very good point. You also have a great idea, let me know more about the letter when you have a chance.
ZhukovCodeslinger Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 ever notice how its not world news when someone who dresses like "The Guy Tupac pretended to be in his music" kills someone.... how come nobody freaked out at the normal way that the guy who killed Bill Cosby's son was dressed.... (or how the hooker that set up Cosby's son was dressed) Kind of odd.... there seems to be more attention to this than reason should warrant (though thats how our media works these days)
paradox Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 black is really in right now <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i thought black was always in. :blink
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