Just existing...

[The Void]

I've noticed something over the years that I find disturbing.

I seem to be the black sheep in my family, as I am sure many of us can relate to. And that is not a bad thing in many ways, especially when you're not proud of your family, etc.

Have you ever found yourself wanting more out of the people around you? It's almost as if when you decide YOU are going to be MORE of a person, expect more of yourself, you look around and see who is around you and realize why...

It's tough to find a better caiber of people to be with once you take it to the next level. At least for me, but then again, I have seen many people have mentors, guides, role models, etc. directly in their lives. Not me though. *sigh*

It's sorry to say, but I look sadly at my family in that most of them, except me are uninterested in world issues, they never volunteer, they have no role models, no purpose, no cause in life. They simply EXIST. They take up space.

To some this is fine, to me, if that is your intention for living, you are taking up my sweet oxygen.

I'm not sold on the whole "life has one purpose", I'm not completely sold on fate, destiny, etc. BUT I do think if we live and breath that we should use our minds, hearts and hands to impact lives, make things, do things...have meaning and purpose in some way even if there is not an ultimate way.

Am I the only person pissed off at those who simply exist?

There's a whole world out there!

It needs all of us!

Why do some people exclude themselves and lack the will to care about having some impact somewhere for someone or something?

bleh...ok, I've ranted and pissed myself off more now....ugh *LOL*

[the eternal]

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[Jarodaka]

Have you ever found yourself wanting more out of the people around you?

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Want in one hand, shit in the other, and see which fills up faster, I suppose.

God give me the strength to change what I can and the wisdom to recognize what I can't, maybe?

Sorry, I realize this is ranting. Yeah, I can identify with the frustration. It would be nice to just ignore and not be affected by those who choose to 'merely exist', but, really, you'll bump into and be forced to deal with these people sooner or later, right?

"You can't control what people do, but you can control how you react to it." That one is nice, too. Repeating to yourself silently, several times, sometimes for minutes (hours?) at a time, if necessary.

[DisturbedMania]

I feel you there. Seriously. If it isn't drugs, theft, pettyness, violence, or some serious mood issues it isn't a family get together!

[Homicidalheathen]

Yah, I lack a good roll model. I used to have a guru of sorts. That is what I long for. It seems everyone around me is searching like me. Maybe they touch on something once in awhile....but they do not live in a constant state of 'Samhadi' or whatever it's called. I knew some people like this once.

I know some successful people, but I would not say I know anyone real balenced, that has it all. Who has time? To devote to everything you need too, to stay that way.

All of the material success in the world won't bring you deep spiritual pressence and understanding. Which is what I seek.

[Steven]

GREAT POST VOID.

Seriously, badly needed.

I have found - that over time - as one improves oneself - and raises one's own standards and sense of expectation - that certain social circles will change. New people will come into your life. ANd others will drop off.

this is normal. in your spirit - you seek other like minded individuals.

By way of like minded I do not mean those who automatically agree with you but rather, those who like yourself - are seeking to do more, give more, be more.

All of us in this room, are building our own destiny, whether we like it or not. Some people are overtly cynical and do not care about destiny. Most of those people in the long run also impact very little and are remembered for even less.

Its important to have destiny - to look upon it from time to time in humility. It does us no good to be praised after our death. However - that praise can and does impact others and maintains or commitment to our original ideals.

Mentors are hard to come by - but should be sought. I'm a firm believer in this. One should both be mentored and provide mentorship. We owe ti to society - we owe it to ourselves, we owe it to this place.

Mentors do not need degrees, or $$$, or social acceptance to be worthy or valuable. Mentors should simply be - people who know how to live life. They are relationally successful. They effect change. They have a sense of purpose, and peace, and awareness.

HH was right in that there are so many lost people in this world.

So search for the ones who are not.

Steven

[Onyx]

It is quite puzzling to me how some never seem to have a thought except for what may be on TV tonight or what to eat for dinner or maybe when they can next get high or drunk. I'm often told I'm "too serious" so maybe I take it too far the other way, but life is short and joy is a rare thing. I just don't feel like faking it.

The trouble with mentors are that they are human and eventually every single human being will let us down in the end. By looking inward and seeing what is worthy of our energy we can very well be our own mentor and reach toward our own goals in life. I do think our connections to others and the incredible variety of human expressions and interactions are what makes life bearable.

"I wish to learn what life has to teach, and not, when I come to die, discover that I have not lived." - Thoreau

[Steven]

It is quite puzzling to me how some never seem to have a thought except for what may be on TV tonight or what to eat for dinner or maybe when they can next get high or drunk.  I'm often told I'm "too serious" so maybe I take it too far the other way, but life is short and joy is a rare thing.  I just don't feel like faking it.

The trouble with mentors are that they are human and eventually every single human being will let us down in the end.  By looking inward and seeing what is worthy of our energy we can very well be our own mentor and reach toward our own goals in life.  I do think our connections to others and the incredible variety of human expressions and interactions are what makes life bearable.

"I wish to learn what life has to teach, and not, when I come to die, discover that I have not lived." - Thoreau

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Yes your right, that Mentors are human beings and make mistakes.

One of my early mentors (when I was first trying to put my marriage back

togethor) made some very tragic mistakes and then died - leaving a mess behind him. It bothered me tremendously. Yet at the same time - this same person partnered with me in my life during a very critical time and I absolutely benefitted from it, and he taught me a handful of very good tools that I still use to this very day. He let himself down in the end, and thats worse than letting me down.

And in fairness, I've mentored other people myself...some older, some younger, some male and some female.

And.... I've fucked up along the way, ran out of gas, gave bad advice. Still I press on..... because I know that despite my own mistakes I've had a hand in shaping the lives of others, and hopefully they are doing the same thing.

I know alot of shit.

I've seen and done, alot of shit.

But I dont know it all. And sometimes I'm just stupid.

Thats why I need the help.

Steven

[Steven]

PS - I dont think your too serious Onyx.

I like thinkers and passionate people.

But I dont want to just make life bearable or just survive.

Thats no life...for me.