Intelligent Design blocked by courts

[Guest Game of Chance]

They learn left on some things, but they're VERY anarcho-Capitalist and right-wing on others.  They even admit in a couple of episodes that they come off as very anti-hippie.

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Its called Libertarianism. A political ideology primarily guided by free will. Socially liberal, fiscally conservative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

[Rozzlyn]

But there are Christian Scientist[sic] who have written about the science behind ID, Dr. Norman Geisler and Patrick Glyph come to mind.  I am not saying I believe it, but they make a scientific case for ID.  It isn't just about blind faith, to assume that is being as uninformed as the people you purport are doing the same.

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Christian Science?

OK, Christian Science killed Jean Harlow.

Christian Science *is* a religion, it's followers are known as "Christian Scientists."

http://www.csmonitor.com/

There is no science behind Intelligent Design.

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Christian Science?

OK, Christian Science killed Jean Harlow. 

Christian Science *is* a religion, it's followers are known as "Christian Scientists."

http://www.csmonitor.com/

There is no science behind Intelligent Design.

In essence I agree with this... Intelligent Design is kind of a way of saying: "We can't figure it all out so... we give up, it must be beyond us, and up to somebody else"

[Rozzlyn]

Its called Libertarianism.  A political ideology primarily guided by free will.  Socially liberal, fiscally conservative. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

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Oh, I know exactly what "Libertarianism" is, but I'm not-so-sorry about feeling dirty using the exact word (whose root is "liberty", yet the vast majrity of Libertarians and other anarcho-Capitalists don't give a shit about anybody's liberty but they're own). It's a selfish, childish ideology.

[Guest Game of Chance]

Oh, I know exactly what "Libertarianism" is, but I'm not-so-sorry about feeling dirty using the exact word (whose root is "liberty", yet the vast majrity of Libertarians and other anarcho-Capitalists don't give a shit about anybody's liberty but they're own).  It's a selfish, childish ideology.

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I'm sorry you feel that way...well, not really. Its a Darwinist philosophy, where every wo/man fends for themself.

Libertarians advocate the liberty of unobstructed action for each individual as long as he limits his sphere of activity to that which does not forcefully prevent the same liberty of other individuals. - Wikipedia

Keep the fucking useless laws away from me. I appreciate freedom.

That having been said, I see no issue with teaching all philosophies. People should be free to think for themselves.

[Shade Everdark]

I'm sorry you feel that way...well, not really.  Its a Darwinist philosophy, where every wo/man fends for themself.

Libertarians advocate the liberty of unobstructed action for each individual as long as he limits his sphere of activity to that which does not forcefully prevent the same liberty of other individuals. - Wikipedia

Keep the fucking useless laws away from me.  I appreciate freedom.

That having been said, I see no issue with teaching all philosophies.  People should be free to think for themselves.

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You see, that's the exact point. Intelligent Design is a philosophy, and has nothing to do with science. Therefore, it should not be taught in science class.

You don't get taught James Joyce, or Machiavelli, or Oscar Wilde, in science class, and you don't get taught about the laws of gravity or centripetal force in English literature. Everything in its proper place. And science class is not the proper place for intelligent design.

[Guest Game of Chance]

You see, that's the exact point.  Intelligent Design is a philosophy, and has nothing to do with science. Therefore, it should not be taught in science class.

You don't get taught James Joyce, or Machiavelli, or Oscar Wilde, in science class, and you don't get taught about the laws of gravity or centripetal force in English literature.  Everything in its proper place.  And science class is not the proper place for intelligent design.

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I realize that there is much evidence that would lead one to the conclusion of the veracity of the big bang theory. If someone were to ask me how the universe was created, my answer would most certainly be, "Most likely by the Big Bang."

However, there is no proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. In fact, with our current technological capabilities, it can't be proven. I'm not advocating teaching ID as a truth, but I see no problem with mentioning it as one of many potentialities.

[Guest Game of Chance]

You see, that's the exact point.  Intelligent Design is a philosophy, and has nothing to do with science. Therefore, it should not be taught in science class.

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One more thing, while I'm thinking about it. The definiton of science.

sci·ence

n.

1. a. The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.

b. Such activities restricted to a class of natural phenomena.

c. Such activities applied to an object of inquiry or study.

2. Methodological activity, discipline, or study: I've got packing a suitcase down to a science.

3. An activity that appears to require study and method: the science of purchasing.

4. Knowledge, especially that gained through experience.

The first definition speaks for itself. Like it or not, it may be possible to scientifically explain "God". I haven't yet disproven the theory.

[bav]

One more thing, while I'm thinking about it.  The definiton of science.

sci·ence 

n.

1. a. The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.

b. Such activities restricted to a class of natural phenomena.

c. Such activities applied to an object of inquiry or study.

2. Methodological activity, discipline, or study: I've got packing a suitcase down to a science.

3. An activity that appears to require study and method: the science of purchasing.

4. Knowledge, especially that gained through experience.

The first definition speaks for itself.  Like it or not, it may be possible to scientifically explain "God".  I haven't yet disproven the theory.

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I've always liked to turn God into an acronym - G.O.D:

Gravity

Orbit

Density

[Guest Game of Chance]

I've always liked to turn God into an acronym - G.O.D:

Gravity

Orbit

Density

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Right on...I've always thought of it as Energy x Matter ...but I guess that's not much of an acronym.

[Scary Guy]

Good Obediant Deciples

Or something something Dogma

[Blackmail]

Christian Science?

OK, Christian Science killed Jean Harlow. 

Christian Science *is* a religion, it's followers are known as "Christian Scientists."

http://www.csmonitor.com/

There is no science behind Intelligent Design.

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Sorry to bring up a dead topic but I forgot about it. But Rozzlyn, you are wrong. Period.

Science and Religion are not mutually exclusive.

"The whole history of science has been the gradual realization that events do not happen in an arbitrary manner, but that they reflect a certain underlying order, which may or may not be divinely inspired."

- Stephen W. Hawking

For those that argue there is no science behing Christianity, what about Stepehen Hawking? His book 'A Brief Hostory of time' is completely compaitable with a christian world view and he is obviously a scientist. He has wavered back and forth on whether he is an atheist or a believer, but he is a scientist who says you can't rule either possibility out. So if one of the most intelligent minds to ever walk the earth can't rule it out, why is a school board ruling it out?