Revenge

[fallennon]

Well, this topic was spurred in my bored mind when I was sitting here thinking that karma was taking too long to get back at my ex for me. So, I came up with some really good ways to trash his life. Ways that are totally awesome and cannot be traced back to me. I will not go into detail, but I will tell you the outcomes of what I think I could do to him. (These thoughts make me feel so much better!)

1. Get him fired

2. Break him up with his girlfriend resulting in him losing his place to live.

Now, if anyone would like me to elborate on these ingenious plans of mine I will, but I would hate to get caught if I decide to do them.

I know that this is immature and childish, but gee it would make me feel so much better to know that I fucked up his life all at once and left him with nothing just like he did to me. Is it ever all right to stoop to someone else's level if you don't get caught? Have ou ever done it?

[Black Sunday]

So, I came up with some really good ways to trash his life.

Doesn't he pay child support? Why would you get him fired?

Trying to ruin his life won't make you feel better.....unless you're a villain.

Only the members of the legion of doom would make a post like yours. Do you want to be in the legion of doom or do you want to rise above it and be a member of the Justice League?

[fallennon]

He does not pay support. Currently he is frauding the state and using a fake social security number so that he doesn't have to pay. He makes me feel like a villan even though I'm not.

[The_Dark]

Sure it's ok to stoop to someone else's level... that is, if you want people to think of you in that way. I could easily become just as much a complete fuck as my ex wife. I could. I used to day dream about all the evil things I could do to that cheating, lieing bitch whore from hell. That's just not the type of person I am. Now, when she's being a snake.. I let her be her. I smile the whole time and think about her long lonely life.. knowing full well that she will die alone and crying, never understading why she cant have a real realationship.

[fallennon]

I never said I was actually going to do it! Hehehehe

[Black Sunday]

ver 1.5

[fallennon]

I have tried this, BUT because he uses a fake social security number they cannot find him. I have sent the police to collect him on his numerous warrants but since the city I live in doesn't have their own police force, state and county are a little too busy to be bothered with child support...at least that is what I am told.

[torn asunder]

as long as you wish ill on anyone, you will receive it back into your life - forgiveness isn't for them, it's for you. be happy, wish them well, as you would wish for yourself, and things will turn around... you will never be happy as long as you harbor resentment, hatred, and/or malice towards anyone. "love thy neighbor as thyself", as a very famous man once put it...

[fallennon]

I keep trying but somewhere in me something is growling with frustration. I now know that the collective opinion seems to be that revenge would NOT be worth it and therefore I won't do it, but it helps so much to *think* about it.

[Black Sunday]

ver 1.5

[Jarodaka]

Perhaps the best way avoid having it traced back to you is by not posting about it in a public forum... with your pic next to the post...

Knowing you have that much power over someone is very satisfying. Kinda like ass pennies. It gives you that extra edge.

[Lilith]

Revenge is one of those things that are great to talk about and you can gain a great amount of satisfaction from discussing those mean nasty thing you want to do to the person. I actually think discussing it can be rather therapeutic. Following through with the acts will not make anything better, it may actually get you in more trouble and turmoil then you are in now.

With that said if you need to get “revenge” I would so suggest doing it in the proper way.

Taking legal action in regards to support would in any ones eyes be ok, the guys need to take care of his responsibilities.

On the other hand if this guy is doing something illegal such as faking his SS# someday it will catch up with him, Someday he will be old and need to use the services Social security has to offer and OoooPPPs his info may be royally fucked and he wont get a dime because he was an ass while he was young and healthy. Darn sorry you are ill but hmph remember when our child was young and was sick and had to suffer because you were a prick, hmph guess you got what you deserve.

I would advise that there is always a time and place for everything, and if it is meant for you to personally serve up the revenge then the opportunity will smack you right in the face, and anything that happens will be done in ways that are appropriate.

Always let your conscious be you guide.

[torn asunder]

i respectfully disagree that talking thru revenge, or wishing bad things for people can be good - as long as one takes an antagonistic approach to life, one will find the same kind of things returning to them. one can never be truly happy (imo) if one takes pleasure/delight/satisfaction in other people's misery and/or misfortune. think of it this way - would you want someone wishing for bad things to happen to you, knowing that a strong enough "faith" or belief (prayer, if you will) can manifest exactly that? i'm sure we'd all like people to be wishing the best for us; look at how we all come together here when a friend is in trouble - look at the outpouring of love for those affected by the tsunami - i hate to use a cliche term here, but "what would jesus do?" or gandhi, or mohammed, or any of the enlightened people who've tried to guide us in the past... can you seriously imagine jesus saying, "i hope that fucker gets his!!"???

[Ginevra]

I partially agree with L&L and totally agree with TA. Legal means, if anything at all is done, should be the way to go to get the support needed for your child. Anything beyond that is on one's own self. I do agree with TA that karm does come back. May take a while, but it does happen and if one wills it to be so (or if you so believe, your deity) will handle the issue.

I know you said that you're not planning to actually go through with any of this but you are at least *thinking* it.

[Lilith]

I want to explain a bit more about what I was thinking while writing that post,

I do agree that wishing and hoping can bring on bad things as well as good, I have seen life work like this many times.

I would not condone praying for bad things to happen to another ever ever ever.

What I was thinking of therapeutic was, getting the nasty thoughts out of your mind, can give a person relief, hence healing a part of your misery so to speak. Being able to vent about how you feel no matter how nasty you feel is good I think, or at least it is way better then actually following through with it.

Also if it helps a person feel better to know that those who are bad will someday get there’s, because it does happen weather you wish it or not what goes around does come around. A better way to explain it may be gain peace and closure by knowing the world will take care of you as long as you take care of it.

I do agree my scenario was rather harsh, now that I reread it, but I only meant to illustrate my point, that karma will get him for his wrong ways.

When it comes to kids you do have to fight for them, and I was trying to agree that she needs to do what ever she can to get the baby everything he deserves legally.

[fallennon]

I have given up on the whole revenge plot. By working through my paradigms and thinking outside of the box I have realized that I was being silly and aolving nothing. There are better solutions to this equation.

And BTW Jarod, I don't think he knows how to read so I'm really not that worried about him seeing it on here...besides he's way to ghetto to ever look on a "goth" board. lol

[DisturbedMania]

Whenever you feel angry at him just hum a little tune and sing in your head about all the fun he could have in a federal prison. (Do I really need to give examples?) Ah, yes things like that make it easier to deal with evil nasty people.

[torn asunder]

:unhappy:

[honeymustard02]

I had a conversation about this with a guy at work.

Why is it that people feel they need to get revenge after a relationship has ended?

You just waste time and energy on staying mad and not working on moving on and finding something better and making yourself happy.

Move on for you and your kid.

[fallennon]

I normally don't feel the need to get revenge, but what he did to me made me feel the need for justice. You see, my water broke with my son 10 weeks early and I was in the hospital for a month. While I was in the hospital he moved her into my house. And was rushing home to her every night after seeing me. And was talking to me at night lying next to her in my bed. And there was nothing I could do about it. A friend told me after the fact that she had come over and seen her in MY CLOTHES. She stole my home, my clothes, MY VIBRATOR, MY UNDERWEAR and my relationship. I guess I just felt the need for some kind of something to make it acceptable. I don't know...

[fallennon]

P.S. Think I'm silly and immature all you want. Then live through it and judge me.

[fallennon]

WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!! I didn't have to get him fired he did that all on his own tonight!!!!!!!! Karma is GREAT!

[Hermine]

As for the child support, have you tried this?

Don't go with the for-profit companies; they'll rip you off. A lot of those companies are scams; I learned that when working in consumer advocacy; they charge you so much that they eat up everything they collect.

Besides, if you know where he is, you may well be able to get it enforced without help. The link should have more advice than I can give you.

As for revenge and taking pleasure in watching the negative actions of karma on someone who has wronged you, well, that's not good karma. I have to say that the latter is minor bad karma, and that having the feeling really can't be helped; just don't dwell on it too much. I know I couldn't help laughing when someone who had hurt me suffered a small fraction of the karmic lumps he has coming. But I try not to give him any more energy now, though I still hate him.

As for getting child support, that's not bad karma. A person can act properly in a way that inconveniences someone, or that brings them into conflict with that person. Especially if it's a mother acting to give her offspring what is needed. That is collecting a debt of the most just sort, so it is not bad karma, no matter if it results in the person who lied to get out of that debt being punished by a society that is not so enlightened.

As for contemplating/discussing feelings of wanting revenge, I can see where lestat_and_lilith are coming from. There is no such thing as a feeling you don't have the right to feel. Nobody can really control what they feel, only what they do about it. There is a difference between acknowledging a feeling and acting on it, and acknowledging a feeling can prevent it from being suppressed and subconsciously acted on. If you know it's there, you can notice when it's affecting your actions and counteract the effect.

Damnit, there was something else I wanted to add but I'm running a fever and missing stuff a lot. I apologize in advance for anything being unclear. It's unclear because I'm sick.

[fallennon]

YOu were loud and clear... :grin:

[Soulrev]

Sometimes some people do find pleasure and happiness in revenge. Some people.