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[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I'm sorry.. I'm going to be blunt.

My cock would love to have 50 women I could just bend over and fuck any time I want. 50 Hot chicks to serve my every need. 50 hot chicks to give me sons to carry on my name and seed.

My Heart... My hearts breaks at the thought of never knowing what true love feels like. The act of looking in my wife's eyes as we build to orgasm together. The connection. The deepness. Falling into her and becoming one. not knowing where one of us ends and the other begins. Truly having someone to talk to. Someone I can say anything to. No secrets. No facade on who I am. One soul, Two Bodys.

Besides. I have a hard enough time keeping one woman happy. Fuck more than that.

[Troy Spiral (13)]

This particular story vs polygamy in general is a very wide discussion and mormons in particular, unfortunately in modern times have some severe internal ethical issues (beyond polygamy or this sub-sect). Then the whole "cult" idea... even larger. A cult usually being defined as something like:

Typically refers to a cohesive social group zealously devoted to beliefs or practices that the surrounding culture considers outside the mainstream, with a notably positive or negative popular perception; often centered around a particular charismatic person or group of persons.

So virtually all mainstream religions started as cults, along with tons of non-religious groups too, not picking on religion here per se.

Polygamy? I don't "like" it, but i also cant come up with a hardcore enough reason to have it be illegal. I think its a problematic way to live ones life, (hard enough time keeping one mate happy, and really i just LIKE having a mongomous relationship...99.9% of the time...damn that city club. *shakes fist* lol) but so is smoking. I think people would be better off not having kids out of wedlock too... but i don't think its realistic or fair to have a law against it. Not the best examples, but I don't want to turn this into a novel.

[Rev.Reverence]

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har·em Audio Help /ˈhɛərəm, ˈhær-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hair-uhm, har-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun

1. the part of a Muslim palace or house reserved for the residence of women.

2. the women in a Muslim household, including the mother, sisters, wives, concubines, daughters, entertainers, and servants.

3. Animal Behavior. a social group of females, as elephant seals, accompanied or followed by one fertile male who denies other males access to the group.

4. Facetious or Offensive. a group of women associated in any way with one man or household: Father joked that he had a harem of five daughters.

NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

That is to close to SLAVERY for me...

[Steven]

since your quoting ancient texts and resoureces then look at the biblical models. In the old testament times you see constant conflcit between wives, which often spilled over inot the children. it was not a harmonious environment. Nor was it illegal. But it sure did suck.

Wow, I can agree with alot ya'll are saying about the MORMONS. Sick, ALL totalitarians are.

In fact, my posts may be off subject (but that would not surprise anyone that knows me)...

But, no one here is thinking on the same angles as I so:

1)I can't think of the word 'MY', as in 'my room', I am married, everything is OURS. So I can not possibly think of having two wives live in separate rooms. That would be degrading.

2)In the 'I-ching' {book} it states that a mans first and second wives MUST 'be as sisters' in our language that would be like saying best friends.

3)Any one who thinks two people can complete the Karma Sutra; needs to look through it more closely.

4)If the husband cannot satisfy his first wife; he cannot have a second wife; if he can not satisfy the two he can not acquire a third. (it's just like at dinner time)

5)If you want to say the man is boasting 'pimp' status, that would be RENTING his wives out. (new thread)

6)I'm no economical statition, but, I think your wrong there, one could simply 'budget' and 'buy in bulk' also sewing machiens are not as complicated as one would think. Also how do you think a 'normal' family of 8 survives?

So please... just stop judging EVERYONE in one group, because SOME people are douchbags...

[Rev.Reverence]

They did, it's called "Big Love" and it succeeded to just weird people out further.

Oh yeah, but aren't they mormons...

[Rev.Reverence]

since your quoting ancient texts and resoureces then look at the biblical models. In the old testament times you see constant conflcit between wives, which often spilled over inot the children. it was not a harmonious environment. Nor was it illegal. But it sure did suck.

Lots of things suck...

and I will...

Abraham...

his problem was he showed his favor to one son or the other, (the Jews and Muslims disagree WHOM)

to see one son as better than the other is wrong.....

...That's the moral I saw...

[Steven]

i would like to note that "decency" is individually/personally dependant...

shouldent be where children are concerned.....and what were talkign about here is balanced, harmonious living that is ideally suited to equip children.

[Steven]

Well a 15 yr old mommy would be in my consideration RAPE.

In addition, any love that must be WON in a competition is not love in my belief.

So you don't think that 3 ADULT people can raise well adjusted children?

no, I dont.

Because I dont beleive what were all talking about is what your alluding to.

[Steven]

Lots of things suck...

and I will...

Abraham...

his problem was he showed his favor to one son or the other, (the Jews and Muslims disagree WHOM)

to see one son as better than the other is wrong.....

...That's the moral I saw...

your not even scratching the surface here Rev.....

[Rev.Reverence]

Please, do expound upon this example, I have an open mind....

...

[Msterbeau]

As if one story about polygamy in a day weren't enough:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=89422387

[Rev.Reverence]

That was way cooler than anything I've seen in print, or film on this subject...

..I knew the Good Guys had to have SOME press somewhere...

Thanx, MSTRBEAU

[Steven]

Please, do expound upon this example, I have an open mind....

...

to avoid mass shooting missles of anti religeous rhetoric lets you and I stay in the PM on this one and then yes I will share my thoughts and what i think are biblical examples.....fair enough?

[Destroit]

As if one story about polygamy in a day weren't enough:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=89422387

Mehhh...there's a problem.

One guy + A dozen wives = Sexist no matter what kind of light you try to shed on it.

Twelve Guys + Twelve Chicks = One hell of a party.

Twelve Guys + Chernobyl = What I hope awaits me in Heaven, yet is still very sexist toward men.....BUT....since I mean men have done it to chicks for thousands of years...an eye for an eye right?

I'm purely kidding about that last part. I don't even care if it's "consensual" because women always say "okay" even when secretly in their heads they're saying "damn...this just doesn't seem right". Sorry that all of us girls have been raised to think like that. Girls (and this is changing THANK GOODNESS) have always been raised to be subserviant to men through thousands of generations, it's not something we're going to shake off overnight, but it IS something that men need to stop exploiting.

I'm just fortunate because I'm a girl who was raised as a boy by women...

Gets confusing, but at least I know what I think, and have an absolutely free mind. These girls who are in communes...generally are prisoners in their own head.

All that, btw, is just my two cents. I don't have any crazy evidence to pull out my ass, because well, I have a job which means I have no time to just sit on the internet and search, but it's from what I've observed my whole life being "transgendered" so to speak, and always looking from the outside in.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Not all communes weere like that... most were the 12 on 12 thingy.

[Destroit]

Not all communes weere like that... most were the 12 on 12 thingy.

Oh, that's not bad I guess, so long as children aren't raised in that environment. It sets them up for disaster, imo.

[n0Mad]

Twelve Guys + Chernobyl = What I hope awaits me in Heaven

You know, in another thread I mentioned a way that seven guys and one girl could work.

I do think a 55 year old man marrying a 15 year old girl is just wrong. Although if I'm still single at 55 and there was a 16 year old (legal age in Michigan) who'd be willing to marry me, I probably would. She'd have to agree though, not some purchase agreement thing arranged by the parents.

[vampire]

You know, in another thread I mentioned a way that seven guys and one girl could work.

I do think a 55 year old man marrying a 15 year old girl is just wrong. Although if I'm still single at 55 and there was a 16 year old (legal age in Michigan) who'd be willing to marry me, I probably would. She'd have to agree though, not some purchase agreement thing arranged by the parents.

Damn that's bad .... i was getting ready to purchase ....

i only have like 11 camels tho ... hmmm i wonder what i can get for that....

[Destroit]

Damn that's bad .... i was getting ready to purchase ....

i only have like 11 camels tho ... hmmm i wonder what i can get for that....

A 21 year old instead of a 15 year old, and one that's past her prime (deflowered, 'cause girls are dirty/defiled if they've had sex even once ).

[vampire]

A 21 year old instead of a 15 year old, and one that's past her prime (deflowered, 'cause girls are dirty/defiled if they've had sex even once ).

SOLD .. but only if she can cook .

i think i may have an old wood box in my garage... she can live in there

nice for you to cut me such a great deal

now i need more camels ....

[n0Mad]

now i need more camels ....

At $5 a pack that can be an expensive trade. Do you think they'd settle for Winstons? They're made by the same company. That or buy them from an Indian reservation where there's no tax.

[Oh_My_Goth]

I have been thinking for quite a bit now on how to express my feelings on this.....

This hits a personal spot, so I am trying not to be defensive/offensive to anyone in particular.....

On the matter of the original subject, I believe this practice to be wrong.

Yes centuries ago people married young, but that is because people did not live as long as modern times.

These people are following old ways.....Although, In this case it seems that these men may be using this as an excuse to fuck little girls......As fun as that may be to some (look on the WEB, Google it) in these modern times it is wrong and unnecessary.....

On the other hand just how wrong was it to the girls involved, they have been raised in seclusion, in a place where this behavior was the norm.....

I can't help but think of how traumatic it would be to have S.W.A.T. Team show up with weaponry and pull me out of my home, the only home I knew my whole life, and take me away to a strange outside world.....

In my opinion nobody was correct in this case.

Now, on subject of a multi-parent unit.....

I see no reason this situation could not work.....Perhaps a dozen wives is a bit excessive, but that is honestly a whole different matter.....

I want a wife and a husband, I have for most of my life.....

I have been together with my wonderful husband for many years, we are deeply in love.....

When I share him with another, we share, nobody is left out.....

It dose not make me feel less of anything, in fact that bond is beutiful and much more than sex.....

Saying that children could not be raised properly by a family unit that is not just a mother and father is ricockulous.....

What about a homosexual couple, or a single parent?????

They often do a better job than most "normal" family units.....

Society has tried to condition all of us to be "normal", well I say FUCK THAT!!!!!

The only reason children would find it wrong is because the societal norm tells them it is.....

There are going to be cases this situation could be disasterous, but divorce and break ups are messy regardless.....

EVERY ONE OF US IS A UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL, we are ALL entiteled to be happy with the way we are.....

I think most people just never learned how to share, and that could be why some people get so offended by this subject, I think maybe they feel personally threatened because they don't like the idea of havening to share love.....

I think that is selfish!!!!!

I am not saying everyone has to be that open, or your selfish.....

I am just saying, just 'cuz you don't agree with something, it does not mean you should knock it.....

Now, please don't quote things out of context and make it look like I agree with some pervs fucking little girls.....

I will respond to legitimate questions or comments, but I will not stand for being misrepresented.....

I thank you for letting Me express my opinion in this matter.....

I just ask that people keep an open mind in life, and don't peg every "freaks" on the same board.....

[creatureofthenyte]

Well this is another firestorm topic, and I truly don't enjoy that part of it.

I am against polygamy.

I think it's sick and twisted and wrong.

Just reading this thread bothers the hell otta me.

I have nothing more to say about it.

[~Tszura~]

First, this discussion should center on Polygamy (Multiple marriages) not polyamory (Multiple partners).

Regarding polygamy, when one brings the law into a poly relationship, I can just see it getting ugly. If it doesn't go well, there's the aftermath of divorce, and dividing things up. And then there's the question of what happens when the central character dies~the spouses who are left can have a whoooole lot to say about what happens to the body, and the rest of their things. Yes, people can have a will, but I've also seen those things trampled on by the system.

IMO if they can marry tons of wives out there and that is to continue...us girls need a bunch of husbands . Shiiit, economically that even works out way better, less kids to feed because there's only one woman having them, multiple men working to support those few children.

Chernobyl.....I think you're onto something!! lol

Seriously, though, I think I'm ok with polygamy if its all about love, consenting adults, and is in no way connected to religion, or any sect. I think if its linked to some sort of prescribed thought then eventually it will all crumble. If people truly love each other, they can make it work. I also think, however, that this kind of relationship is only capable amongst older adults who have had some life experience. I don't think a 15 year old should get married to anyone, much less be led into a multiple marriage.

Now having said all that, polygamy would definitely NOT work for me. I envision myself barley being able to stand one person for the rest of my life, much less a couple of other people AND their children. :0

[Rayne]

Don't get me started.

My first husband was already married when he married me. I did not know until a week after I married him -- his mother mentioned it to me. I guess him wanting to get married in Canada should have been my first clue, but I was 18 and evidently stupid.

Anyway, I got a restraining order on his "other" wife because she was literally psychotic and tried to beat our door down once ... That was after we came home once to her sitting in a corner in our house, rocking back and forth, slicing her wrists. And that was even after I left him for a week because he left for a night and came back the next morning with her saying he was going to move her back in and we could just all live together.

It was very messed up ...

I'm getting off track.

So a few months later he gets really drunk and I wrestle the car keys away from him. He beats me in the process but never gets the keys ... Knocks me up against the kitchen cabinets and knocks me out for a few seconds. I hear him through the house looking for the keys, which I had hid. Hear him in the kitchen drawer then go outside. I hear the car start and back out. Tires squeal and car goes up on the curb. I call the cops ... He's going to seriously hurt himself or someone else.

Cops come and notice my heads bleeding and I'm bruised --- both old and new. I refuse to say anything. They take my lisence and recall the incident not too long before where his wife was trying to gain entry into our house. My name matches the wife and his at this point. They question me and I refuse to answer.

In the meantime he pulls up. He can't even walk straight and has an open bottle of whiskey in the car. They arrest him on multiple charges (DUI, open container, multiple I'd's, domestic violence and Pologamy). The state charged him. I was pregnant with my oldest daughter sheilding myself from the cameracrews on my way in to testify. About a week after he was released on bond his divorce went through from his other wife ( he had claimed he had no idea where she was and filed for a default judgement). A few months later I read in the paper that the Case was dropped because Michigan didn't know how to properly prosecute it. It was best for all parties involved, they said.

Three months later I got served with divorce papers from Ontario. 6 months later and just about three weeks before my daughter was born it was granted in an Ontario Provincial court. I was in the hospital unable to attend the hearing where he swore to the judge that I was not pregnant.

Two years later he would sue me for paternity saying he never knew about my daughter. .... And the lies have never stopped.