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[Rev.Reverence]

The key word is PURSUIT. You are not guaranteed happiness.

Also, nothing I have said would prevent that pursuit... and it's eventual goal.

All I have trying to say is that you cant expect everyone to accept you. You can't force your views/morals on them.

What you can expect is tolerance.

You live your life the way you want to. Don't expect everyone to like it or think it's right. the father out there you are.. the less acceptance your going to get. And if you go to far... well.. you went to damn far.

Social change does not happen fast without bloodshed.

Viva La Revalution! (sarcasm)

I don't condone violence...

I expected tolerance.

It was not shown.

I don't want your acceptance.. just for people to understand, THOSE WEIRDOES, on the news...

..are an ABERRATION....and there ARE plenty of well adjusted Triads out there...go right ahead, tell me I'm wrong...

..tell me I was raised in a 'good' home.... I'll tell you your lying.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I think we are having a communication problem.

I don't condone violence except as a last resort or self defense.

I'm not casting any judgement on anyone here.

All I am saying.. is that you cant FORCE society to change without using force. Change on a sociel level happens two ways... slowly and surley via communication and awareness or quickly via violence and bloodshed.

I'm saying your not going to get people to accept your views on polygamy unless you force them to accept.. and then all your going to get is tolerance.

I see a few choices for any "radical" life style

1. Scream your views at the top of your lungs... berate anyone that doesn;t give you full acceptance... and you are just driving yourself father to the fringes of the social machine until you are no longer part of it... and live in a compound with no outside contact...

Or

2. Live your life. peacefully. and accept that not everyone is going to accept your relationship. BUT... they are going to see that... hey... those weirdos are not so bad... and someday... they may accept you... which will lead to them spreading that acceptance by thier casual contact with other parts of the machine.

Or

3. Get everyone that thinks like you do together... get some guns and Force everyone to accept you. and you still wont get acceptance.

Gays have far more acceptance than they did 100 years ago. They mostly went for #2 with a few going for #1

but really... my way of thinking and phee's are pretty close to being the same. I realyl don't care what you do as long as noone gets hurt.

[Rev.Reverence]

I think we are having a communication problem.

I'm not casting any judgement on anyone here.

All I am saying.. is that you cant FORCE society to change without using force. Change on a sociel level happens two ways... slowly and surley via communication and awareness or quickly via violence and bloodshed.

I'm saying your not going to get people to accept your views on polygamy unless you force them to accept.. and then all your going to get is tolerance.

I see a few choices for any "radical" life style

but really... my way of thinking and phee's are pretty close to being the same. I realyl don't care what you do as long as noone gets hurt.

It was not clear that you were not casting Judgment.

I ride the high road...#2

We have acheived the middle ground and are speaking better than before, and I pray ALL have gathered a bit of knowledge. I know I have...

[Brenda Starrr]

So, this isn't all THAT bad an idea. I could be married to Jeff AND Steven.

[Oh_My_Goth]

It was not clear that you were not casting Judgment.

I ride the high road...#2

We have acheived the middle ground and are speaking better than before, and I pray ALL have gathered a bit of knowledge. I know I have...

I'm with him!!!!!

Literally and on this subject.....

[GARGOYLE FUSIC]

Just so you guys know there are lots of studies, polygamy is NOT healthy for children. I am on a pda so I can link as of now but look it up. Not that you people probably care because some of you only seem to bash conformity and society but no society that dabbled in polygamy has lasted very long...not to mention that if polygamy were legalized it would completely shut down our court system with property law disputes and divorce. Polyamourous relationships are also frowned upon by psychologist, it is a fact that people who are into multiple partner relatuonships suffer a greater percentage of depression that monogomous partners. And like polygamy, polyamoury has been bred out of human culture in stable societies. Except for angry goths who only want to rebel and sound sophisticated but havnt read any of the many studies done on the subject.

[Homicidalheathen]

I went to me mum in laws today. She was reading this book...Secret Ceremonies......I am going to read it now.

Looks good.

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Ceremonies-Mo...e/dp/0688093043

I got the paperback version with the added material.

[freydis]

Just so you guys know there are lots of studies, polygamy is NOT healthy for children. I am on a pda so I can link as of now but look it up. Not that you people probably care because some of you only seem to bash conformity and society but no society that dabbled in polygamy has lasted very long...not to mention that if polygamy were legalized it would completely shut down our court system with property law disputes and divorce. Polyamourous relationships are also frowned upon by psychologist, it is a fact that people who are into multiple partner relatuonships suffer a greater percentage of depression that monogomous partners. And like polygamy, polyamoury has been bred out of human culture in stable societies. Except for angry goths who only want to rebel and sound sophisticated but havnt read any of the many studies done on the subject.

aww......did someone pee in your cheerios today?

seriously, though, sources?

with just a cursory look, i found quite a few that disagree with you.

Cook, Elaine. “Commitment in Polyamory.” Electronic Journal of Human Sexuality. (2005). 12 February 2007 .

Some researchers wrote in ways that implied some nonmonogamous relationships might require a greater degree of psychological development than monogamous ones. Ryals and Foster (1976) explained Jane Loevinger's theory of ego development (Loevinger, 1966, quoted in Ryals and Foster), focusing in particular on the stages of "conformist," "conscientious," and "autonomous." Drawing on O'Neill and O'Neill (1972), they hypothesized that couples practicing open marriage would need to be at the autonomous stage, committed to each other's growth, and respecting each other's autonomy. They stated that people at the conformist stage would not likely have the cognitive complexity to understand the notion of autonomy in marriage, and people at the conscientious stage would be likely to try "to intervene, to help, to protect, which, regardless of altruistic underpinnings, may create the status differential which interferes with peer like equal status interdependence" (p. 301).

That was just one.

State your opinion, by all means, but don't be a jerk.

[Homicidalheathen]

I am watching this interview on Larry King right now.

Just cause your mormon......does that mean you don believe in a lil eye brow wax???

Coarse, I am not sure which was scarier. The lady doing the in house interveiw, pleading for the return of her children.....or Larry King.

[Oh_My_Goth]

Just so you guys know there are lots of studies, polygamy is NOT healthy for children. I am on a pda so I can link as of now but look it up. Not that you people probably care because some of you only seem to bash conformity and society but no society that dabbled in polygamy has lasted very long...not to mention that if polygamy were legalized it would completely shut down our court system with property law disputes and divorce. Polyamourous relationships are also frowned upon by psychologist, it is a fact that people who are into multiple partner relatuonships suffer a greater percentage of depression that monogomous partners. And like polygamy, polyamoury has been bred out of human culture in stable societies. Except for angry goths who only want to rebel and sound sophisticated but havnt read any of the many studies done on the subject.

Wow.....

You're pretty sure of yourself there.....

Like Munin said thier are many sides to the subject, so be fair.

By the way.....I personally am not angry, nor a goth.

Hope your day gets better!!!!!

[Oh_My_Goth]

Check it out!!!!!

[Pandora]

Just so you guys know there are lots of studies, polygamy is NOT healthy for children. I am on a pda so I can link as of now but look it up. Not that you people probably care because some of you only seem to bash conformity and society but no society that dabbled in polygamy has lasted very long...not to mention that if polygamy were legalized it would completely shut down our court system with property law disputes and divorce. Polyamourous relationships are also frowned upon by psychologist, it is a fact that people who are into multiple partner relatuonships suffer a greater percentage of depression that monogomous partners. And like polygamy, polyamoury has been bred out of human culture in stable societies. Except for angry goths who only want to rebel and sound sophisticated but havnt read any of the many studies done on the subject.

Frowned upon by psychologists? Since when do psychologists know everything I say.

And I think there are a great deal more two-partner families that are extremely unhealthy for children, like um, yep every single one of my mother's 5 marriages.

Where are zee sources?

[Rev.Reverence]

Frowned upon by psychologists? Since when do psychologists know everything I say.

And I think there are a great deal more two-partner families that are extremely unhealthy for children, like um, yep every single one of my mother's 5 marriages.

Where are zee sources?

HUZZAH! HUZZAH!!

I'll site some tomorrow...

[jadnifer]

Check it out!!!!!

The clickie isn't working, hun.

These are my feelings on all of this. People can live their lives the way that they choose to as long as they don't try to push their lifestyles on me. I would never push my lifestyle on someone else and would expect the same respect in return. Yes, that person could talk to me about what the lifestyle was like, but don't try to get me to change. I am always up for conversation and debate.

My personal feelings on polygamy is that I would never do it. That doesn't mean that I think that others shouldn't. I think that that is a personal choice.

I feel that a marriage should be between two people that love each other very much. If they choose to share someone (polyamory) then that is a little different. No one has a multiple marriage partner.

Call me selfish, but I would never be able to share a husband with anyone else. I just wouldn't. I know that they say that each woman is equal, but I want to be the ONLY one that he thinks about and wants to come home and make love to. I want to be the only woman that he wants to bear his children. I don't have to want to think that when he isn't with me, he is with someone else. I want to have everything that he is. I want to be able to receive everything that he has to offer. Isn't that why he asked me to marry him in the first place? I am not married, I am just saying that if I was, this is how I would feel on this.

If people want to live a polygamy lifestyle, of course there would have to be a couple of rules. The major one being that the people involved absolutely HAVE to be adults. There is no excuse for pedaphilia whatsoever. The adults would also have to be consensual. They absolutely CANNOT be forced into something like this.

On a religious sidepoint, I am Christian. I feel that people should only be married to one person at a time. That doesn't mean that everyone feels that way and I completely understand that. As long as you respect my viewpoint on it, then I will respect yours.