INTERNET 2

[jynxxxedangel]

ALEX JONES, MY HERO

Brass Roots site is GONE, and I keep getting search hijacked from Prisonplanet.com.

Want to hear something else scary? I tried to post a comment to the video on the link I posted here, and it didn't work.

BOYCOTT!! BOYCOTT!!! BOYCOTT!!! BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PROTECT OUR INFORMATION SOCIETY!!!!!!!

[jynxxxedangel]

WHAT??? No comments??????

For SHAME!

Grow one, people!

This is not a joke, it's REAL, and it threatens our basic human rights. I am NOT BEING MELODRAMATIC, and if anyone else accuses me of it again, I am going to come COMPLETELY unglued. Hell, I don't think I could become anymore disturbed over this than I already am.

If the Sheeple won't stand up, I WILL.

[Black Jack (1)]

It's not working for me either what gives. Is there another way to see it?

[Goth Brooks]

I'm just curious. What basic human right is that? The right to check your myspace? The right to go into chat rooms and demand nudes from underage girls?

The internet was a military invention, it wasn't created to be a utopian freedom lovefest .. dot net

infowars isn't censored by comcast, btw.

[jynxxxedangel]

You are not able to click on the link, Black Jack?? Well, there you go. Now you have proof.

Just go to YouTube, and search "Internet 2"; and you won't believe it..

Try and post a comment to any of those videos. Just try. If anyone thinks I'm over-reacting or full of horse-shit, they will have a very rude awakening.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I can go right to Infowars.com and Prisonplanet.com with no problems.

When I type an address wrong, I get the standard 404 file on my pc.

If I only mistype it a little bit, it goes to Live search and trys to find it for me. Thats a known feature of IE. It was added at user requests.

Perhaps, you should get the spyware off your pc.

[freydis]

It's been posted for an hour, during a time when many people are at work.

Give people some time to actually look at it.

As for the link?

Half sounds legit, and definately not right, and something to be concerned about.

The rest sounds like paranoid conspiracy nut fodder.

And if me calling one of your comments melodramatic is going to cause you to "come unglued", you need a bit thicker skin.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

BTW, I posted two comments on that video... my username is Gauthmog.

[Goth Brooks]

/hands out lemonade and TIN FOIL HATS

[jynxxxedangel]

I am currently running six different various spyware, adware, and anti-spy programs. I am still getting search hijacked, and denied access to sites mentioned.

My stoneskin is VERY thick, but I don't think it will help any on this particular campaign. I'm going ghost.

Certainly, Mr. Jones is a bit over the top, and somewhat sensationalistic-- but the gist of what he speaks of are hard cold facts. Do a bit of research, and you will find the bulk of the subject matter of which he speaks is factual.

If I am incensed enough to lay my head on the public chopping block here, then you KNOW something is up. I don't usually even POST in political threads, much less start one.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I think it's amazing that people think they have a Right to the Internet and that somehow it's publically owned. It's not, every bit of it is owned by private companys... always has been. I also think it's funny that people don;t realize that the Internet is running on hardware that was not designed to run it. it runs on the old phone system. Nothing was purpose built for the Internet. It has major limitations, bandwidth being the big one. We are now pushing the limit of how much bandwidth the Internet can handle. Saturation.

Thats the main purpose of Internet2. To replace the old antiquated hardware that we use now and replace it with an infastructure that can grow with the number of users.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Another limitation... we are running out of IP addresses admn without one, you cant get on the internet. The current Internet cant use IP6, which has an absolutly huge address pool... Internet2 can use IP6.

[freydis]

Another limitation... we are running out of IP addresses admn without one, you cant get on the internet. The current Internet cant use IP6, which has an absolutly huge address pool... Internet2 can use IP6.

Yup. IPv4 is finite in addressing... IPv6 is weird looking, though. It gives me headaches just looking at it. Once the switch is made to IPv6, my question is, though, I've only directly seen IPv6 addressing on Vista machines (and assumably, Mac has the capability). I hope that won't force everyone to Vista. Blech.

[jynxxxedangel]

How is this change in the way the Internet works concurrent with the censorship, though?

So we need to reformat the Internet to grow with the burgeoning amount of users and IPs..AGREED! But it should NOT be changed to something laden with governmental censorship. This is where I draw the line, and this is my point.

[Enishi]

I'm keeping my eyes open to see whether the government starts censoring alternative media like they do in China...

[freydis]

How is this change in the way the Internet works concurrent with the censorship, though?

So we need to reformat the Internet to grow with the burgeoning amount of users and IPs..AGREED! But it should NOT be changed to something laden with governmental censorship. This is where I draw the line, and this is my point.

I guess it depends on whose 'pipelines' data will be traveling through, and how the government and others decide to handle how companies deal with the data. Companies generally don't give a shit about what data people exchange, as long as its not costing them money. From what I understood about internet 2, the infrastructure was the main change, allowing more devices to gain addressability, and more content to get distributed. One difference you'd see in cable, for instance, would be the ability to use an enabled TV to get your subscription cable channels without the need for a box. Essentially, it'd be like making your TV an addressable cable modem. I can see where that would cut down on cable theft, too.

[phee]

How is this change in the way the Internet works concurrent with the censorship, though?

So we need to reformat the Internet to grow with the burgeoning amount of users and IPs..AGREED! But it should NOT be changed to something laden with governmental censorship. This is where I draw the line, and this is my point.

...

Almost every type of communication has the governments hand in it.... right down to porn you can't rent in the video store (still has the FBI warning...

Maybe I am missing something...

[SaGa]

I am currently running six different various spyware, adware, and anti-spy programs. I am still getting search hijacked, and denied access to sites mentioned.

My stoneskin is VERY thick, but I don't think it will help any on this particular campaign. I'm going ghost.

Certainly, Mr. Jones is a bit over the top, and somewhat sensationalistic-- but the gist of what he speaks of are hard cold facts. Do a bit of research, and you will find the bulk of the subject matter of which he speaks is factual.

If I am incensed enough to lay my head on the public chopping block here, then you KNOW something is up. I don't usually even POST in political threads, much less start one.

you tried all the explorers..

first the internet althou through encryption can be somewhat private. its the most public way of communication. and there is very little rights you have online. as most if not all the time your the one giving any information away in good faith. unless your doing something very illegal. i doupt the fbi whould give 2 shits what people talk about or what kind of porn there watching. so why worry

why your getting hijacked. who knows. perhaps its there server being a little screwy or your isp is being a bit to overloaded. iv had this happen several times with comcast even.

[jynxxxedangel]

*stands on the bow of a sinking ship, refusing to swim with the sharks*

Sooner or later, I guess we will have to say goodbye to public forums, where people can actually voice their opinions, as we are doing now. They will be next on the red-list. Wait for it.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Yup. IPv4 is finite in addressing... IPv6 is weird looking, though. It gives me headaches just looking at it. Once the switch is made to IPv6, my question is, though, I've only directly seen IPv6 addressing on Vista machines (and assumably, Mac has the capability). I hope that won't force everyone to Vista. Blech.

Windows XP added IP6 support with SP2... maybe SP1... it's been a while. It's not installed by default but can be intalled without much fuss or even a reboot.

[Fin]

*stands on the bow of a sinking ship, refusing to swim with the sharks*

Now that is something we shall have to remedy, isn't it?

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

*stands on the bow of a sinking ship, refusing to swim with the sharks*

Sooner or later, I guess we will have to say goodbye to public forums, where people can actually voice their opinions, as we are doing now. They will be next on the red-list. Wait for it.

Have you looked at your Host file? If you have not and don;t know what I am talking about... send me a PM and I can walk you through looking at it. Many spywares will edit your host file to exclude websites that might clean them. It's a very affective way to limit what sites you can see.

[SaGa]

*stands on the bow of a sinking ship, refusing to swim with the sharks*

Sooner or later, I guess we will have to say goodbye to public forums, where people can actually voice their opinions, as we are doing now. They will be next on the red-list. Wait for it.

douptfull if the servers are not in the usa, the united states cant do much about that. heck you see how hard it is to stop illegal peer2peer.

[phee]

Just so you are aware... even DGN is not a public forum....

[SaGa]

Just so you are aware... even DGN is not a public forum....

so when is the ceramonial drinking of the goats blood. i gotta request that off work.