OMG THOSE POOR PEOPLE ARE DIENG....

[Lilith]

You guy have to see this video i just saw on msn

go here http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?i=d696a907...r&mi=NBC%20News

click on the video with the black lady with her hand to her head and listen to the reporters comment after seeing htose people atthe convention center

Just watch the whole thing

Some one needs to really help those people and i cant stop wanting to cry, i am figthing it back cause of my kids but omg

[The_Dark]

We are doing everything we can, as fast as we can. We are evacuating people as fast as we can get them out. Remember.. the ONE major road into Nola is GONE. It was a dbl bridge.. the storm collapsed it.

Also remember that these same people are loosing thier heads and hindering the relief/rescure effort... shooting at helicoptors that are evacuating people... hijacking carravans on the way to the ONE open hospital... over turning ambulances hauling away the injured.

We are trying.. but this is a huge operation and it takes time... and yes.. some people are going to die.. and thats really sad..but we cant just snap our fingers and fix this.

[Lilith]

I just do not understand why some one any one is not taking there money and sending some supplies on there helicopter to these poor people i mean hell just take shit and drop it out. Send in military who hand out water bottles during the day any thing i mean hell forget the rebuild help those poor people who have nothing, i mean babies are dying here guys i just a limp half dead baby. I mean ll my problems head right outhte window whne you see some thing like that even if it is on video. I am reall ashamed that our own people are getting less then stelller treatment, fuck the rest of the wrold where the hell is our own damn country?

i am bothh pissed and saddened and thankful all in one and i so wish i had $$$$$$$$ i would have so been there dropping out all kinds of care packages hirring big bad ass bikers to toss off cases of water from there bikes etc..... i mean come on we are suppossed to be so dam nadvanced and great and we cant even feed a bunch of our own people water n bread in a crisis. Yeah great chain of command we got goin on around here

eddiited cause this rant is not at any one here, it just seems these people are faring way worse, or at least itis being portrayed to be way worse then other type of disaster reilief effeorts. any how it my rant and not at any one here.

[Lilith]

i also have ahrd time seeing that cause video cause i really feel a huge need to d some thing right now, not wait n drive shit to the red cross blah blah but right now, and i cant and i dont knwo what else to freaking do. Damit this is eaxactly why i never freaki nwatch the news n try to remain removed from everything.

its just those poor poor babies.........

[The_Dark]

I know. I'm in the same boat as you....

Just keep in mind that we are doing what we can. The Army is there doing just that... everyday people from all over are there with boats trying to get people off the roofs and to shelters.. We are evauating people to texas and anywhere else that can take them...

People are sending in water and food and formula.... but it's hard to get it to the people... the roads are gone... thestreet gangs are hijacking shipments and shooting at releif workers...

The military and the police have stopped looking for survivors and are trying to stop the looting and lawlessness.. because those things are stopping the releif workers from doing thier jobs... The President has called up another 10,000 National guard to help... but it takes time to get there....

Maybe you should turn off the TV and stop reading news webpages for awhile.. it's going to get worse before it gets better.

[Lilith]

The problem i have is that if a news reporter can walk around that convention center and do his job the nwhat is the problem with getting supplies to the same location, fine maybe we dont have the people to send there but why cant they just drop bundles off to them they do that other places and from that one video alone they said hte convention center has some type of order.

I get and understand that getting hte people out of there is a problem i get that some people will die adn what not but what i have a problem with is that there are thousand if not more poeple at a convention center they were told to go, now they have been just left there no military of any kind or supplies. Not only that i also have a problem with the fact that some oen shot at a helicopter and now they stop sending help, WTF, those pilots and helicopters of our military sure as hell better be able to handle shots from the weapons our people have salvaged from a flooded area because if they cant then we have a major problem. I highly doubt that this is any more dangerous then war and we provide relief and supplies in bundle and stuff alll the time to war zones. Also if you are telling the people to go to some place why was it not stocked with supplies and extra help i nthe first place? I mean seriously some one need to get a better emergency planner. Its not liek this just rushed ashore with no warning.

again not directed at any one just my rant till this settles a bit in my head.

[The_Dark]

As for the Helicoptor.. well.. the military can handle being shot at.. but all that is let in that hospital are babys.. and the military is made up of people who just cant carry a baby into a firefight.

The reporters I have no idea about.. when do they ever help anyone? I mean.. they go into these places allover the world.. when was the last time you heard of one of them helping with anything?

[Scary Guy]

Oh yeah speaking of hellicopters the govener wanted to use them to sandbag and reinforce against it, but Bush overrode him and said they should be used for rescues saving maybe 5-6 people at a time.

[The_Dark]

Are you talking about the attempts to fix the breaks in the levys? I wan't aware the the President was actually there calling the shots.

[phee]

Oh yeah speaking of hellicopters the govener wanted to use them to sandbag and reinforce against it, but Bush overrode him and said they should be used for rescues saving maybe 5-6 people at a time.

I heard that as well...

[The_Dark]

From where are you hearing this? and what exactly are you hearing... They onyl sandbagging operation that I have heard of or read about is in fixing the levvys. Helicoptors were used to drop 3,000 pound snad bags into the breaks.. and they washed away... after several attempts they stopped trying as it was a waste of valuable time. None of that was the Presidents decision.. the commander of the Army Corp of Engineers that is there on the ground is who is calling the shots on that.

BTW.. The Army has dropped MRE's and Water to the people are your Civic center.

[phee]

From where are you hearing this? and what exactly are you hearing... They onyl sandbagging operation that I have heard of or read about is in fixing the levvys. Helicoptors were used to drop 3,000 pound snad bags into the breaks.. and they washed away... after several attempts they stopped trying as it was a waste of valuable time. None of that was the Presidents decision.. the commander of the Army Corp of Engineers that is there on the ground is who is calling the shots on that.

BTW.. The Army has dropped MRE's and Water to the people are your Civic center.

CNN... A person who worked in the mayor office down there....

[Scary Guy]

Yeah CNN

Anyhow asside from that they've known about this for years. They were prepared for a catagory 3, but a catagory 5 would be (and was) too much. Guess who cut the funding to re-enforce the baracades? George Dubyah that's who.

Moral is also down in Iraq because they don't want to be there fighting a war they didn't want in the first place, they want to be here helping their fellow countrymen.

[Head Wreck]

who wouldnt.

i'm suprissed i havent heared much from us lot about sending some form of help

[Msterbeau]

I don''t watch TV and my cable is messed up anyways... (to the TV) I finally took the time to really look through the news sories and see how bad it is.... It's unreal. I think Murphy's law has taken over on this one.

I can't go there , but I'm very tempted to offer my home to someone for a short while. (Assuming they can get here...)

If I do it, I'll go through: http://www.hurricanehousing.org/ .... there were a zillion offers of help and shelter on Craigslist. The problem seems to be getting people out alive...

[Steven]

I think we all as a group are horrified at the realities of what we are witnessing.

Because of the depth of the multiple issues at hand - you cant just drive out there and hand things out.

At this point - the best thing to do is to send $$$ to the red cross - let them pool their resources out of what you've given - they are much more adept at making an impact (at this poiont at least) than you everyday people. That will change in the short term - but foir now - there is little tha can be done.

And thats why Dark - even though it was completely laudible what you wanted to do to provide help - the reality is that you would have been stifled - this problem is huge, and the human element makes it multi-faceted. Beyond the basic panic - there is now unmitigated violence and agression entering the fore, whcih will further exsacerbate the issues at hand.

I hate to say this as it appears cold and blunt - but this is a good indicator as to where we truly are and are not as a people, as a society, as a nation. We are unprepared. We are divided amongst ourselves. We are over-political. And now - we are having to impose martial law due to the mob mentality caused by blind panic and lack of resources for the most basic human needs. But even martial law is very hard to impose and reinforce within this tragedy.

It is a tragic wake up call.

This issue - this inability to counter a natural disaster - this inability to truly utilize our great national wealth to deal with a large scale threat - is of our own doing, self created, and self defeating.

As a nation - we are a time bomb waiting to detonate.

[phee]

I think we all as a group are horrified at the realities of what we are witnessing.

Because of the depth of the multiple issues at hand - you cant just drive out there and hand things out.

At this point - the best thing to do is to send $$$ to the red cross - let them pool their resources out of what you've given - they are much more adept at making an impact (at this poiont at least) than you everyday people.  That will change in the short term - but foir now - there is little tha can be done.

And thats why Dark - even though it was completely laudible what you wanted to do to provide help - the reality is that you would have been stifled - this problem is huge, and the human element makes it multi-faceted.  Beyond the basic panic - there is now unmitigated violence and agression entering the fore, whcih will further exsacerbate the issues at hand. 

I hate to say this as it appears cold and blunt - but this is a good indicator as to where we truly are and are not as a people, as a society, as a nation.  We are unprepared.  We are divided amongst ourselves.  We are over-political.  And now - we are having to impose martial law due to the mob mentality caused by blind panic and lack of resources for the most basic human needs.  But even martial law is very hard to impose and reinforce within this tragedy. 

It is a tragic wake up call.

This issue - this inability to counter a natural disaster - this inability to truly utilize our great national wealth to deal with a large scale threat - is of our own doing, self created, and self defeating.

As a nation - we are a time bomb waiting to detonate.

I will not repeat NOT give any money to the red cross... they are not a non-profit organization, when you donate money and resources to this organization.... they profit from it. There are several other places to donate that are not "blood money" organizations.

thanks

[Steven]

do what you will dude - just dont miss my point.

[ManicQueen]

My company *Community EMS* is sending 6 full crew trucks down there to help with medical transport and food/water and all that good stuff.

I'm hoping that I might be one of lucky ones to go. I think they said that whoever is chosen will stay for about a month.

[Msterbeau]

My company *Community EMS* is sending 6 full crew trucks down there to help with medical transport and food/water and all that good stuff. 

I'm hoping that I might be one of lucky ones to go. I think they said that whoever is chosen will stay for about a month.

Sad to say... It might be a good idea to have a gun or some other form of protection on you... at least until things settle down, which could be a week or two.

[Brenda Starrr]

It's so hard to watch. And I haven't heard anything from or about my friend, Crestin. :tear

[Jarodaka]

WTF? News reporters have had time to actually go into New Orleans, videotape people dying, crying, passing out, and also helping each other and asking for help, but rescue workers can't get in there? There's video footage of the people waiting to be evacutaed from hospitals. Didn't all this start on Monday? I'd like to think 'everything is being done', but it sure doesn't look like it. If the TV crew can get in there, shouldn't water, food, and help be able to get there at the same time?

[Amerist]

WTF?  News reporters have had time to actually go into New Orleans, videotape people dying, crying, passing out, and also helping each other and asking for help, but rescue workers can't get in there?  There's video footage of the people waiting to be evacutaed from hospitals.  Didn't all this start on Monday?  I'd like to think 'everything is being done', but it sure doesn't look like it.  If the TV crew can get in there, shouldn't water, food, and help be able to get there at the same time?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I keep on wondering that myself... Of course, Foamy did a big long rant about the same thing recently. The whole, "Put down the camera and help some people." Hopefully the reporters have also chosen to take some aid down with their caravans, I mean, it shouldn't take that much extra to throw in a few supplies to reinforce the people there...

[The_Dark]

The reporters were already there. They were there to cover the storm, some stayed through the whole thing.. others ran just far enough away. Then went back in after the storm stopped.

There is a differance between getting one minivan of cameras in and getting a convoy of trucks in. Oh, and the fact that most of the water came in after the storm, not during.. that didn't help.

Scary... people have known the levys could not withstand anything above a cat 3 hurricane for 40 years. Nothing above a cat 3 has hit that area in over 100 years... Don't try to blame this on the Pesident unless you plan on blaming everyone in office for the last 40 years. Besides, this isn't the time or place to be getting all political and pointing fingers. It's nature. It happens. It really gives a fuck less about politics. Somethings, well, somethings just happen and it's noones fault.

[The_Dark]

Steven... I thought I mentioned this. I have experiance working flood releif with the Red Cross. I was also in the military for 8 years. I'm the type of person they want to come help. Where do you think the people driving the water and food trucks come from? Who unloads the sand bags? Who carries the dead?

My wife and I talked it over and If I go she is cool with it. Though she is concerned that I wont have a job when I get back. So, I talked with my boss. I am sopposed to know by Tuesday... No, my company has no sense of urgancy. If I have a job when I get back, I'm leaving Wed.