How to get a woman to like you....

[phee]

Women want respect... very simple... unfortunatly they don't want it from whom they seem to date, but they will complain to their male friends that have respect for them, and treat them well, about there asshole boyfriends.

[Onyx]

I've read way too many relationship books and psychobabble in my quest to understand relationships. I've come to the conclusion that most of it is utter nonsense.

The only thing that makes sense in any of what I read is to work on yourself. Please yourself and do things you enjoy. Find something worthy to be passionate about, and be yourself.

The reason for the "be yourself" never dawned on me until a few years ago. Changing oneself to be someone you are not (for instance, the mythical BadBoy character) in order to attract a mate always backfires because you will attract a mate who is not compatible with you.

The odd thing is, the more I work on myself and make myself stay involved in life, the less I tend to want to compromise and be in a relationship - but I think that is a good thing because it will take someone very compatible to cause me to make that effort again.

[Homicidalheathen]

Bad boys are good in bed......good boys make good husbands.....I am as sexist as any man.

[Homicidalheathen]

My experience......cute guys with big dicks treat women like crap BECAUSE THEY CAN Heh......it just feels better ok.....and we are willing to put up with it.

ummmm I was talking in the abstract.... about someone with a huge penis.  I was in no way implying that my penis is a huge penis.  Its just that girls will put up with more from a guy who has a huge penis than they will from a guy who has a small penis.

p.s. huge penis

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[Onyx]

My experience......cute guys with big dicks treat women like crap BECAUSE THEY CAN Heh......it just feels better ok.....and we are willing to put up with it.

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Not I.

Bad boys can go fuck themselves.

[TomCat]

they also want boyfriends who have great skills.

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I have great skills, but alas...no sweety. Sigh.....

[Msterbeau]

I have great skills, but alas...no sweety.  Sigh.....

Piss poor is your attitude. Abandon it you must or women will you not attract. About love does Yoda know much.

[Daevion]

women suck....I'm gonna go be a monk and live in a monastary

[the eternal]

Women want respect... very simple... unfortunatly they don't want it from whom they seem to date, but they will complain to their male friends that have respect for them, and treat them well, about there asshole boyfriends.

Amen, brother!

In my past Id been with psychos aplenty and one longlasting relationship with a great normal person. I was not looking at the time and I treated her like crap.

Get this. She "knew" that there was this sweet guy underneath. How?? Because I didnt call her back or was it the way I made her go dutch on all our dates and talked about pretty and thin my ex was?

Anyway, she pursued me (during a very bad point in my life), and I dont think I wouldve had a shot if I was a normal nice guy.

Its weird. Not all women are like that, of course. Onyx seems to be pure. But its funny. Even if youre not a total jerk, acting like a cock really does catch more than being sweet in my experiences :confused :confused

[Homicidalheathen]

I put up with bad boys for sex but would not marry one.

Even I have my limits though......I can take it for a few mounths then break it off.

[Daevion]

They are weak minded and need someone strong to guide them, that is why some girls put up with the bad attitude....and they can't stand a guy who seems weak like them because it means they have to face the hard truth of thier own weakness and shortcomings. Personally, I really don't fucking care about the reasons or motivations behind why this is so.......

[Steven]

They are weak minded and need someone strong to guide them, that is why some girls put up with the bad attitude....and they can't stand a guy who seems weak like them because it means they have to face the hard truth of thier own weakness and shortcomings. Personally, I really don't fucking care about the reasons or motivations behind why this is so.......

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Actually Dude - I think more Men are weak minded than Women.

A woman cant be in love with a man she does not respect, and trust, and admire, and feel safe with. Its that simple.

And far too many men expect to receive "respect", when in fact they never do anything respectful, they dont even respct themselves.

A simple Question: Do you have your shit togethor Johnny?

If you do - you'll attract quality people. If you dont - you wont, because you have nothing to offer to sustain the relationship.

To the Men:

Are you a good listner?

Can you communicate beyond a three minute timespan?

Can you control your temper?

Are you a good breadwinner?

Do you set healthy limits on outside relationships?

Are you teachable?

Are you a leader?

Do you self-improve?

Do you protect?

Is your word really your word?

Steven

[Homicidalheathen]

I do not consider myself weak minded and am trying to remove my profile from this site

[Daevion]

Actually Dude - I think more Men are weak minded than Women.

A woman cant be in love with a man she does not respect, and trust, and admire, and feel safe with.  Its that simple.

And far too many men expect to receive "respect", when in fact they never do anything respectful, they dont even respct themselves.

A simple Question:  Do you have your shit togethor Johnny?

If you do - you'll attract quality people.  If you dont - you wont, because you have nothing to offer to sustain the relationship.

To the Men:

Are you a good listner?

Can you communicate beyond a three minute timespan?

Can you control your temper?

Are you a good breadwinner?

Do you set healthy limits on outside relationships?

Are you teachable?

Are you a leader?

Do you self-improve?

Do you protect?

Is your word really your word?

Steven

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That may be true, but nowhere did I state that ALL women are weakminded but the ones that are usually go for guys with shitty attitudes.

A woman cant be in love with a man she does not respect, and trust, and admire, and feel safe with.  Its that simple.

Are you kidding me? Many women are in love with guys the have the opposite qualities all the time, how else do you account for all those morons in prison that have wives and women visiting them all the time...and I don't mean they're mother. So women that stay with a guy, no matter how high or low his morals are, don't really love them? I'm confused over the simplicity of this.

[Steven]

Are you kidding me?  Many women are in love with guys the have the opposite qualities all the time, how else do you account for all those morons in prison that have wives and women visiting them all the time...and I don't mean they're mother. So women that stay with a guy, no matter how high or low his morals are, don't really love them? I'm confused over the simplicity of this.

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theres a big differecne between healthy and unhealthy Bro. Having a relationship does not mean that you have something good or worthwhile, just like beikng married does not mean that you have a good marriage.

In my soapbox - I'm talking about QUALITY - attracting and maintaining quality. If you want a higher (ie a Good Woman) standard then you must first set that standard for yourself.

And YES - -MANY women stay with men that they dont really love. Many of these women have "Fix It" infatuations where their men become their pet projects, only to resent them in the end when it never really works the way they expect it to work. That selfishness in the end, not love.

Many women stay in bad relatiohsips because they lack the ability to go solo and they have abandonment issues. Thats also not love, its a form of self protection.

Many women (and men) have a warped or twisted sense of what "Love" actually is, and simply tell themselves that they are in love, such as women who are battered by their men and yet choose to stay in an unhealthy relationship and actually protect the men who beat them up. That aint love - thats co-dependence.

"love" in and of itself will not last all on its own power.

you have to build it, renew it, prioritize it.

And most men I say these things to - vehemently disagree.

Yet their relationships also dont stand the test of time, and they ceased being "good" (fulfilling) long ago.

If you want something good dude, lead the way.

Its my opinion, that too many men fail to do this, and so they get what they put in....not much.

Steven

[phee]

Amen, brother!

In my past Id been with psychos aplenty and one longlasting relationship with a great normal person.  I was not looking  at the time and I treated her like crap.

Get this.  She "knew" that there was this sweet guy underneath.  How??  Because I didnt call her back or was it the way I made her go dutch on all our dates and talked about pretty and thin my ex was?

Anyway, she pursued me (during a very bad point in my life), and I dont think I wouldve had a shot  if I was a normal nice guy. 

Its weird.  Not all women are like that, of course.  Onyx seems to be pure.  But its funny.  Even if youre not a total jerk, acting like a cock really does catch more than being sweet in my experiences  :confused  :confused

Glad that you have seen this too...

Here is one metaphore I have seen that seems to sum up a lot (and not all, the girl I am with is wonderful, but all of the women I was with up to this point, were definitly like this)

Let's say that you were going into a job interview that you had previously turned in a resume for (ie: you were courting a woman). And your potential employer (the girl that you wish to date) sits you down and says:

"Wow, sir! you have a great resume, all of the qualifications that we were looking for fit with your resume perfectly! You seem to have an amazing list of references (mutual friends) and will be the perfect candidate for the position that is opened... But we are going to instead choose another less qualified candidate, with a drinking problem.... but we will reserve the right to keep your resume on file to compare to all of the less qualified candidates that we are actually thinking about hiring... furthermore, we are going to keep your number handy so we can call you up and complain about the applicant that we actually do end up hiring... thank you"

[Steven]

Glad that you have seen this too...

Here is one metaphore I have seen that seems to sum up a lot (and not all, the girl I am with is wonderful, but all of the women I was with up to this point, were definitly like this)

Let's say that you were going into a job interview that you had previously turned in a resume for (ie: you were courting a woman). And your potential employer (the girl that you wish to date) sits you down and says:

"Wow, sir! you have a great resume, all of the qualifications that we were looking for fit with your resume perfectly! You seem to have an amazing list of references (mutual friends) and will be the perfect candidate for the position that is opened... But we are going to instead choose another less qualified candidate, with a drinking problem.... but we will reserve the right to keep your resume on file to compare to all of the less qualified candidates that we are actually thinking about hiring... furthermore, we are going to keep your number handy so we can call you up and complain about the applicant that we actually do end up hiring... thank you"

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Then your prospective "employer" lacks the vision, foresight, and overall maturity to make good decisions, hence you really would not want to waste precious time with an overtly flawed situation. Because this girl is not as togethor as she seemed to be.

[phee]

I am glad that my Fiance is not like this....

[Draco1958]

Reading this and trying to make sense of it all befuzzles my mind. I treated my ex with respect, towed the line the way she wanted things. If I was coming home late from work I called. If I was stopping to hit a fast food place, I called to see if she wanted anything yet she would go from work to a friend's and stay sometimes the night and NOT call. Thing she expected me to do as a courtesy was never done by her for me. I don't know. Guess I was in love and was willing to deal with it all. I'm still a gentleman to all ladies I meet. Don't have a big penis. I'm trying to improve myself for me. Want to lose some weight, get in better shape. Would love to find a lady who wants a gentleman but also wants me to be her personal bad boy at times. Considering what has happenned over the last 5 yrs and other things involving my ex, I am not jaded toward women(except my ex) and I still hope to be in a long term relationship where I will still treat the lady with respect. Not going to let the past change that. Not going to let one problem bleed over to other relationships. That wouldn't be fair. I know this may not quite fit this topic and if told it doesn't, I will delete it. maybe this belongs in a thread called "fools in love, what did you go along with because you were in love and afraid to be alone"

[the eternal]

I think it fits perfectly, and I pity the fool that doesnt.

Oh and I ve found penis size probably wont make or break things, especially when compared to:

emotional stability

financial stability

and

dish/house cleaning ability

if you still worry, just brush up on your technique with your tongue.

It never gets limp

It never orgasms so as to drain you

AND

Its the best shot you have in giving most women orgasms

"How do you make a woman happy?? Oh thats easy. You just need to find the clitoris" -- Chef, South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut

[Shade Everdark]

It is likely that the only way a woman will get my tongue is through good conversation.

[soothsayer]

Women want respect... very simple... unfortunatly they don't want it from whom they seem to date, but they will complain to their male friends that have respect for them, and treat them well, about there asshole boyfriends.

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Finally someone else speaks the truth. My last serious girlfriend did just that the whole time we dated. Even during our 'honey moon' phase - I found out after the fact that even though I did roll out the red carpet for her she could only complain about me. It's bullshit and it's why some women never find that one 'special' guy, they don't know how to appreciate a genuine man.

[soothsayer]

This does suck because what I really do want is someone that shows that he truly wants to be with me.

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:sleeping

[Steven]

It's bullshit and it's why some women never find that one 'special' guy, they don't know how to appreciate a genuine man.

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....Well, My woman definately does....

[soothsayer]

....Well, My woman definately does....

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You are blessed - I wish I would've found that myself.