Pentagon Wasn't Hit By Plane

[crunchy_pickle (5)]

Haven't researched it enough to dispute this "conspiracy theory" but gaps and inconsistencies in understanding don't necessarily equate out to conspiracy.

I've seen several documentaries on the subject, and yeah they could all be huge cover ups by 1000s of people but it just seems unlikely. Not impossible, crazier stuff has happened before, but just unlikely.

I'm personally of the opinion that whether or not it was a plane, there's no conspiracy. Conspiracies are secretive and intended to mislead and sway the popular opinion of a nation. We are not ignorant enough to fall for that, but we are too chicken shit to do anything about it. Our founding Fathers are rolling in their graves while we continue to pretend that our Constitution means a goddamn thing. Anyone with an IQ over 80 knows there are evil departments in the system, and that many of the laws we follow are in fact not laws at all, or are unconstitutional. I have a bad feeling we'll be taking it up the ass hard in the next 10 years or so if people don't learn to read, and stay away from the many many distractions that keep us segregated.....

I think people are finally starting to wake up though. Everything I've been saying since I was 14 years old seems to be on the minds of a lot of people these days. I guess it's really just a mater of who's got the gonads to fucking do something about it. I'm willing to die for this country even if it means my assassination one day.

[Kit Kat P]

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[Kit Kat P]

I am going to respond to these because I think that they are all excellent questions and think more people need to ask more of the right questions. Although some things ARE secret for our own good, and some are just because we are getting screwed.

Haven't researched it enough to dispute this "conspiracy theory" but gaps and inconsistencies in understanding don't necessarily equate out to conspiracy.

I've seen several documentaries on the subject, and yeah they could all be huge cover ups by 1000s of people but it just seems unlikely. Not impossible, crazier stuff has happened before, but just unlikely.

Part of me wishes I could watch these.

I'm personally of the opinion that whether or not it was a plane, there's no conspiracy. Conspiracies are secretive and intended to mislead and sway the popular opinion of a nation. We are not ignorant enough to fall for that, but we are too chicken shit to do anything about it. Our founding Fathers are rolling in their graves while we continue to pretend that our Constitution means a goddamn thing. Anyone with an IQ over 80 knows there are evil departments in the system, and that many of the laws we follow are in fact not laws at all, or are unconstitutional. I have a bad feeling we'll be taking it up the ass hard in the next 10 years or so if people don't learn to read, and stay away from the many many distractions that keep us segregated.....

I agree 100%

Does your ex husband keep secrets?

Who doesn't? Do you?

Did you happen to see any seats or bodies in the wreckage?

All bodies and seat were ash, almost all internal (by internal I mean into the building) parts were ash, for both the plane wreckage and the building wreckage, they were having to guess where a person usually sat and scoop up some ash, run a dna test to see if it was person and hope they could some family members some ashes that were human and not inanimate.

Do you know for sure that this was not in fact a missile?

I saw plane wreckage myself. Now I could be part of the conspiracy but I know they never gave me a t-shirt.

Kinda odd for a plane to not have seats or bodies. Perhaps your ex can enlighten us all to why the surveillance video of this incident has not been declassified.

Actually it's standard practice not to release a lot of things for at least 10 years.

[Kit Kat P]

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[Head Wreck]

crunchy pickle, one of the frothies i worry about.

crematorium fires go to same temps to turn bodies to ask. jet fuel burn for however long fire crew response is would do lovely.

take deep breaths, use the inteligence that you were born with.

and for record, most of founding farmers were slave owners who didnt want to stop slave trading. thier allready rolling in thier grave

[Scary Guy]

Fine I'll admit that I don't really know all the facts, or even care. People should question the government and get involved, and a bunch of people think that this really happened.

It's not the winners that write history, it's the opinion and view of the masses that write the history books. Just under that is the opinion of the other side. Then underneath that is the truth.

Personally I'm happy just as long as people are questioning the government. Please see new thread for more tinfoil hat stuff.

[crunchy_pickle (5)]

crunchy pickle, one of the frothies i worry about.

crematorium fires go to same temps to turn bodies to ask. jet fuel burn for however long fire crew response is would do lovely.

take deep breaths, use the inteligence that you were born with.

and for record, most of founding farmers were slave owners who didnt want to stop slave trading. thier allready rolling in thier grave

In what universe will jet fuel or anything aboard an airplane for that matter burn at a temperature high enough to burn bones? I'm sorry but crematorium's burn a lot hotter than jet fuel.....

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Jetfuel burns at different temps depending on how pure it is, how much O2 is around, heat loss to do air born particles, and how long it's been burning. As Hydrocarbon it has a max temp of about 3000c but in the real world it usually caps off between 800-1200c. Steel melts at 1500c. Steel also looses almost all tensil strength at about 700c. (Which means it does not have to melt for the tower to collapse. The steels own weight would make it fall.

Crematoriums burn bodys at about 2500c and you still get a few bits of bones. The burnt hem that hot to get the maximum amount of bone to burn in the shortest amout of time. Bone burns at a far lower temp. Bone has to burn a long time to loose mass but like many things, it gets brittle when it gets hot. Now... heat them damn bones up real good and ad a couple hundred thousands pounds of falling concrete those bones turn into powder damn fast.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Hell, steel will weld at about 600c.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

It glows at 450-500c.

[know_buddy_kares]

Quite honestly, there's many theories. And there's evidence that proves, and disproves the theories. Mine being how the black box recorded that the plane was a few hundred feet above the pentagon... so it could have dropped something..

..then the similarities of mechanical findings of wreckage as gaf has shown out...

...but it's funny how to this day, I've not found ANY photos myself that I could legibly say was posted on a reliable news source as official pentagon wreckage.

Whichever is right or wrong about the pentagon... I know one thing for a fact, they are still lying to us. If it was true of what they said, there wouldn't be so many untied ends in their stories. I'm no great detective either, and what I belive may be just as far fetched as the story the media told us.

I just know something aint right in all this... too many things just aren't adding up for me.