All Non-muslims Are Guilty

[Steven]

I have found, in my studies, that THEY, (so called 'religious' leaders) are ALWAYS changing shit around.

Look at it this way, there are sect's of Islam, that think 'KILLING IS ABROGATE'.

'THOU SHALT NOT KILL' Christian, and Judaic

'Do as thou Wilt, an' Harm Ye None.' Wicca

'Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the Law, Love under Will.' ThELEMA

'Affect not another on the way...' Tao

IT GOES ON.....

personally I thought it was always though shalt not commit murder.......anyway, I'm not quite sure that I understand your point with this post - can you elaborate?

[torn asunder]

rev - no need for three posts...

[Rev.Reverence]

nobody is saying that, since x-tians did it before, that it's ok for muslims to kill now. what i think they're saying is that neither religion is innocent. sure, x-tianity is peaceful currently, and *some* muslims are not, but that doesn't mean they need to be eradicated - in time, they, too, might "convert" to more peaceful ways. on the other hand, you seem to be advocating that x-tians go on the warpath and eliminate muslims, which is the precise reason you want to get rid of them... so if we did, we would have to kill ourselves next!?

GRACE, PEACE, LOVE, UNDERSTANDING.

These are the Fuel, to move us FURTHER down the Road!!!

HALELUIA

[Steven]

Now what's your real problem DUDE>

are you talking to me?

are you upset about something?

right now my problem is that I'm not understanding you.

but you have my ear....

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

Sorry I must have misunderstood this:

And this:

And this:

But this is your way of spreading tolerance and peace I guess...

And this is me spreading intolerance:

You have a confusing way of trying to get your points across.

Can you with any honestly deny that this kind of thing is not going on right now? That given the chance, it wont start happening here?

Do you hoenstly think that Islamic extremists are not plotting the death of as many Americans as possible? Even when they say thats their plan?

All your piece, love and understanding is not going to get them to stop killing you.

All I wanted to do was talk about the current crazy ass shit that a Muslim leader is spilling. I'm attacked for it. From the start..

but thats ok. insulting me isn't against the rules.

So come on. Call me some more names. Tell me what a horrible person I am again. Does it make you feel good? Does it elevate you somehow? Are you better than me?

[Steven]

do you read?

continue please....

[Rev.Reverence]

...

ALL the prophets agree, in LOVING, Divinity, and Humanity, for the truth is plain to see.

So some dude more interested in corporeal power than 'God's Work', comes along and misinterprets a passage, or two and tryes to kill everyone else.

Happens ALL the time...

..to all sorts of religious groups.

So what's wrong, you didn't understand that?

[Steven]

if you can do it, they can do it...

not sure what it is that (I) am doing - tell me more.....

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

nobody is saying that, since x-tians did it before, that it's ok for muslims to kill now. what i think they're saying is that neither religion is innocent. sure, x-tianity is peaceful currently, and *some* muslims are not, but that doesn't mean they need to be eradicated - in time, they, too, might "convert" to more peaceful ways. on the other hand, you seem to be advocating that x-tians go on the warpath and eliminate muslims, which is the precise reason you want to get rid of them... so if we did, we would have to kill ourselves next!?

Excuse me? I never brought up Christians until everyone else threw them in my face.

Where exactly did I advocate or hint at any action against Muslims? Any at all?

[Steven]

So what's wrong, you didn't understand that?

go back to the quote I cited - I dont know why you just used something else - what were you saying with that particular group of sub quotes that I addressed? And in all honesty I'm not sure Im really understanding you right now - you in particular - with the trippled posts and upper case letters and all....I cant get a feel for yoru inflection - or what your trying to emphasize, or even what your particular position is.

[torn asunder]

gaf, you have to admit, this post was begging for trouble from the start - you knew it would generate this kind of exchange, and therefore, i can only assume that's precisely what you wanted.

now, take note of your quoted post - in your own words, you said

"Do you hoenstly think that Islamic extremists are not plotting the death of as many Americans as possible? Even when they say thats their plan?

All your piece, love and understanding is not going to get them to stop killing you."

you have now admitted that not *all* muslims are doing/thinking this - the extremists are - you have just defeated yourself.

i'd also like to add, that if you're going to label others as "murders/rapists/(people who deserve to die - paraphrasing), you should expect those insinuations to be returned to you - you can't cry "foul" when you started it...

Can you with any honestly deny that this kind of thing is not going on right now? That given the chance, it wont start happening here?

Do you hoenstly think that Islamic extremists are not plotting the death of as many Americans as possible? Even when they say thats their plan?

All your piece, love and understanding is not going to get them to stop killing you.

All I wanted to do was talk about the current crazy ass shit that a Muslim leader is spilling. I'm attacked for it. From the start..

but thats ok. insulting me isn't against the rules.

So come on. Call me some more names. Tell me what a horrible person I am again. Does it make you feel good? Does it elevate you somehow? Are you better than me?

[torn asunder]

go back to the quote I cited - I dont know why you just used something else - what were you saying with that particular group of sub quotes that I addressed? And in all honesty I'm not sure Im really understanding you right now - you in particular - with the trippled posts and upper case letters and all....I cant get a feel for yoru inflection - or what your trying to emphasize, or even what your particular position is.

yeah, honestly, rev - i'm having a hard time discerning your point as well...

[Rev.Reverence]

So come on. Call me some more names. Tell me what a horrible person I am again. Does it make you feel good? Does it elevate you somehow? Are you better than me?

I don't get it, it was suposed to be, DEBATE, right?

an' I never said nothin' about anyone being 'horrible'...

that would violate spiritual tenents I hold very dear to my heart.

NOW, I am stepping out to get Cig's...

..anybody need anything while I'm out?

[Steven]

I don't get it, it was suposed to be, DEBATE, right?

an' I never said nothin' about anyone being 'horrible'...

that would violate spiritual tenents I hold very dear to my heart.

NOW, I am stepping out to get Cig's...

..anybody need anything while I'm out?

birng me back a carton of "understand" please, Im still lost.

[Rev.Reverence]

go back to the quote I cited - I dont know why you just used something else - what were you saying with that particular group of sub quotes that I addressed? And in all honesty I'm not sure Im really understanding you right now - you in particular - with the trippled posts and upper case letters and all....I cant get a feel for yoru inflection - or what your trying to emphasize, or even what your particular position is.

that everyone is a little bit wrong

and if humanity's diverse tribes don't come together and compare notes,

we will exterminate ourselves

erase the lines

break down the bar

[torn asunder]

Excuse me? I never brought up Christians until everyone else threw them in my face.

Where exactly did I advocate or hint at any action against Muslims? Any at all?

indirectly, right here...

OK, so your not justifying anything... you are also not doing anything to get rid of the problem. I don't see how bringing up what was done in the name of Christ 400 years ago helps anything.

Why can't we just talk about the evils that Islamic extremists are doing RIGHT NOW, without having to compare it to Christians of days gone by?

You think so? Where did I advocate killing anyone? When did I try to justify killing innocents?

you said he was doing nothing to get rid of the problem, which intimates that you would do something, which eassily, hints at action against muslims...

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

wow. thats a hell of a stretch.

"Doing something about it" could mean many things. Education being one. Economic stimulus another (Islamic extremist seen to come mostly from very poor areas)

Now I see how your minds really work.

I say "Do something about it" and your minds go right to murder and mayhem. and I'm the ignorant hate monger.

Is there any other names you guys want to call me?

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I'm asking for this?

Posting a video and asking to discuss it's contents is asking to be insulted and attacked by the mods?

marc has beenthe only one that even tried to discuss the video. Everyone else talked about Christians and how horrible a person I am.

[hunhee]

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