The Draft and Manditory Public Service

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I don't get how so many people are great patriots for this country yet they barely lift a finger to do something positive for it.

So, when are you going to serve your fellow country men?

[Msterbeau]

So, when are you going to serve your fellow country men?

I do it locally. Sometimes with church stuff, sometimes on my own. You?

[n0Mad]

So, what if you've already put in years of service and got nothing for it other than the self satisfaction that you did something good? Would you still have to serve again if you wanted to go back to college for any reason or has your duty been done?

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

This country will utterly fail BECAUSE of that laziness. People in this country treat freedom as this right to destroy the earth, fuck over their neighbor and do as they please without consequence. You think THAT's what the founding fathers had in mind? I'm sick to death of people treating the the vision of the founding fathers as some unalterable statement of fact.. like they were infallible. The basic concepts are good, no doubt, but they need to be able to evolve over time or ideas that meant something at the time become irrelevant.

Well, right there is where you differ greatly from Obama. He believes the Constitution is inherently flawed. He believes that the limitations on power setup by the founding fathers is wrong and that the Bill of Rights takes away freedom.

"the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties" Obama, 2001

Service guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I do it locally. Sometimes with church stuff, sometimes on my own. You?

US Army, 8 years.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I also have 4 certificates of thanks from the Red Cross for my service during disaster relief.

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

I just have to post this somewhere...

[Gaf The Horse With Tears]

1. It's "my thread"

2. it's relevent to this thread because "the draft" is an old idea that has already failed.

3. You realize your bitching to me about bringing up things that are unrelated (even though they are)... and then you talk about Pailn's clothing budget?

[Rev.Reverence]

1. It's "my thread"

2. it's relevent to this thread because "the draft" is an old idea that has already failed.

3. You realize your bitching to me about bringing up things that are unrelated (even though they are)... and then you talk about Pailn's clothing budget?

...oops...I'm wrong...your right...it SO goes here...& I went on a tangent...oh well..I'm Human.

(see how easy that was for me to be humble & admit that I did not "get the joke")

[Goth Brooks]

Service guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?

Another Heinlein supporter/fan?

I really need to repurchase that book.

[Riku Namako]

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[Goth Brooks]

IMHO, conscription is inimical to a free society. I am (ostensibly) a free man with the freedom to decide my own course in life.

I believe in a free society, but only as long as I don't have to do anything to help keep it free.

Freedom isn't free.

[TitsMcGee]

Freedom isn't free.

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